NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

[scottyp180]

"Agenda posting"?


I guess it can go both ways then. For people who say nothing but good stuff about the game...I bet you're good with that, tho.


I've had an issue (as has tons of people) with the lighting and player models going back to last year. It's not like I'm trolling. I see that they've done nothing to improve certain things, so of course I'll talk about it.


23 ripped on the lighting in this thread. He ripped on the shorts in this thread as well. He's ripped on the players' bodies in other thread. Yet nobody says anything about him. Why's that? Because they're afraid of the ban hammer? (hi 23!)


Look, I've said before that I enjoyed 2k15. Hell, I play that more than any other game. Maybe that's why I'm so critical of it...because it could/should be even better.


Maybe my standards are just too high.

Everyone has different expectations for sure. Things like lighting and canamiations are definitely things I'd like to see improved but at the same time they don't necessarily ruin the experience for me either. The animation thing is particularly odd for me because sometimes I'll play and it will really bother me and other times I barely notice it.

As a fan I also don't know what goes into making these games. I know that fixing the animations is something that probably couldnt be done in one year and would basically require them to rebuild the game. However for lighting I don't know how easy or difficult it would be for them to fix the issue. Would changing the lighting mess with colors or frame rate? Is it something that would hinder the development process? Is it something that could improve with a patch?

I'm not saying I'll accept whatever 2k releases, and sorry if I come off that way, but I also know 2k can't address every single issue in one year and make the perfect game everyone wants. As long as improvements are made I'm usually pleased. IMO something like animations have been improved over the years. Is it perfect? No but go back and play a game from a few years ago and I bet it is very noticeable.

But at the end of the day the criticism, complaing, bitching, whining, crying or whatever you call it will eventually strike a cord with developers if there is enough people complaining. I remember people complaining about things like shoes and I'd be like "dude really? I don't even notice what's on their feet. They could be barefoot for all I know" yet there was a community of people that were big on shoes and 2k, over the years, has done work to make sure this aspect of the game is addressed. It won't happen over night and it might not happen in the next release but if enough people are vocal eventually 2K will take notice.

[Gilley]

Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

[HowDareI]

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I work all day and miss this post...
27 pages later and everyone's losing their mind.
(insert joker meme here)

Seriously tho, 2K's marketing is pretty bad.

Why? Because no one's preordering the game based off any of these "trailers". Maybe the ProAm news..but still.

People have the game preordered because they know 2K is gonna bring the same graphics and gameplay that they always do; and they know it's gonna be the best basketball game on the market.

Their previous game markets the new game. The other basketball title markets 2K for them by being a worse game. The fans market the game by talking so much. The youtubers market the game by releasing vids with a million views talking about new features....

But these trailers and making us wait until a month before release to talk about the game isn't good marketing...it's a good strategy but not good marketing lol

[JSensui]

Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

Isn't it obvious? They show less and less core gameplay videos over the years because there's far less to talk about. We're getting diminishing returns in terms of gameplay improvements. It was noticeable starting from 2K13.

[BluFu]

Re: NBA 2K16 Digital Short - Stephen Curry: Beyond the Shadows

Isn't it obvious? They show less and less core gameplay videos over the years because there's far less to talk about. We're getting diminishing returns in terms of gameplay improvements. It was noticeable starting from 2K13.

Alright alright, I'm done now

[I Djm]

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This is the thing.

As a business model, you see your game's sales increasing every year with minimal marketing. You've built and established your brand as being of high quality, as well as financially solvent.

Why on earth would you waste money on marketing when the data proves that you don't need to, at all?

Everyone 'complaining' is still going to buy the game, most are going to enjoy said game immensely. Like 24th is saying, it's the same thing every single year, same catchphrases, same nonsense. 2K didn't this, 2K didn't that. Lol, Stop.

I don't even care about these trailers, I know when September 25th comes, I'll be playing this game. That's all there is to it, and it's the same story for most of you complaining. Why put yourself through this?

That being said, I wish there was more gameplay in the video, but I'm sure I'll get more than enough in a month...

But 2k still hasn't put alternates in my player so i can still say they don't care

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[I Djm]

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NBA 2k just isn't bringing it anymore. Maybe I'm getting old but the games just don't have that charisma and passion inserted into the gameplay anymore. It's like they've taken all their heart and soul and stuffed it into all the Myplayer stuff. The last time I was impressed was with the announcement of NBA2k14 and the Phil Collins trailer. I have only been underwhelmed from that point on. The graphics fidelity, lighting, emotion, have taken steps backwards and once I got a taste of those graphics there was just no going back for me. If you think I'm making this up, search James Harden 2k14 and compare him to the recently released 2k16 screenshot.

The way they bring out info for this game is fine. But their focus is 90% on all the fluffy teenager stuff that makes them money. It's like this game is being made for 10 year old kids who purchase myteam coins and not the true sim heads. Oh but there's Da_Czar and Mike Wang and all the other guys who are in this for us! That's what you say, I feel their muzzle has been tightened and their interaction is way down. Instead of seeing more gameplay content because they're happy to show it off, it's like they do it now just to satisfy the few old heads still around making up the final 10% of their marketing campaign.

I cringe just thinking about the annoying 2k stream with Ronnie where they play exclusively in the park and talk about hair styles and clothing options. I loath the days when Gold pack this and Silver Pack that, Rare Edition here, rare edition there, are focal point in their discussions.

I just want my grassroots contender NBA 2K back. Fame has made my favorite game turn into a gold digger. No longer is she the cute innocent summer fling, now she's the used up, cakeface lady strutting her stuff all over Broadway.

My player hasn't been good since 2k11....so that charisma and passion been gone fam

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[King_B_Mack]

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I don't even know when people are serious or not with some of this **** anymore lol

[swac07]

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I know 2k has to be reading this thread laughing and thinking like....




"Soooooo...Yall BIG mad or little mad???"



Mannnnn some of these post/complaints are "out there"

[HowDareI]

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Hey guys, let's get back on topic real quick lol...

I hope what they showed in this trailer is just exclusive to Steph...

Like that hunched over thing after he shot, taking out the mouthpiece. I mean Lebron and Harden have some exclusive animations off the top of my head too.

I don't wanna see everyone celebrating like last year.
Quiet dudes like Duncan and Kawhi are running up the court getting hype when that's not their style.

Looks the another generic hesitation into crossover...but who knows maybe there'll be more dribble moves.

Also no scoreboard or presentation overlays so maybe just maybe they've brought in an actual network to do it. TNT or NBATV who knows..

I also find it ironic where they're talking about getting over your height...yet everyone's a 7'3 point guard but that's none of my business tho. Maybe it means there's actually gonna be rewards for being shorter/disadvantages to being huge.

[twogotwingz3]

NBA 2k just isn't bringing it anymore. Maybe I'm getting old but the games just don't have that charisma and passion inserted into the gameplay anymore. It's like they've taken all their heart and soul and stuffed it into all the Myplayer stuff. The last time I was impressed was with the announcement of NBA2k14 and the Phil Collins trailer. I have only been underwhelmed from that point on. The graphics fidelity, lighting, emotion, have taken steps backwards and once I got a taste of those graphics there was just no going back for me. If you think I'm making this up, search James Harden 2k14 and compare him to the recently released 2k16 screenshot.

The way they bring out info for this game is fine. But their focus is 90% on all the fluffy teenager stuff that makes them money. It's like this game is being made for 10 year old kids who purchase myteam coins and not the true sim heads. Oh but there's Da_Czar and Mike Wang and all the other guys who are in this for us! That's what you say, I feel their muzzle has been tightened and their interaction is way down. Instead of seeing more gameplay content because they're happy to show it off, it's like they do it now just to satisfy the few old heads still around making up the final 10% of their marketing campaign.

I cringe just thinking about the annoying 2k stream with Ronnie where they play exclusively in the park and talk about hair styles and clothing options. I loath the days when Gold pack this and Silver Pack that, Rare Edition here, rare edition there, are focal point in their discussions.

I just want my grassroots contender NBA 2K back. Fame has made my favorite game turn into a gold digger. No longer is she the cute innocent summer fling, now she's the used up, cakeface lady strutting her stuff all over Broadway.

Most accurate and prolly the best post I've ever seen on OS... starting to realize, not only do people in the outside world think older ages aren't for gaming but apparently gaming companies do as well lol...but for real I'm just still lost on how we got one of the most beautiful sports games ever on the OG xbox (NFL 2K5) and really, nothing compared to that seeing that it was on a far less powerful machine...and another thing I dislike, is seeing the WWE team make their game gorgeous in detail and lighting but then see NBA and go ehhhh

[Da_Czar]

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NBA 2k just isn't bringing it anymore. Maybe I'm getting old but the games just don't have that charisma and passion inserted into the gameplay anymore. It's like they've taken all their heart and soul and stuffed it into all the Myplayer stuff. The last time I was impressed was with the announcement of NBA2k14 and the Phil Collins trailer. I have only been underwhelmed from that point on. The graphics fidelity, lighting, emotion, have taken steps backwards and once I got a taste of those graphics there was just no going back for me. If you think I'm making this up, search James Harden 2k14 and compare him to the recently released 2k16 screenshot.

The way they bring out info for this game is fine. But their focus is 90% on all the fluffy teenager stuff that makes them money. It's like this game is being made for 10 year old kids who purchase myteam coins and not the true sim heads. Oh but there's Da_Czar and Mike Wang and all the other guys who are in this for us! That's what you say, I feel their muzzle has been tightened and their interaction is way down. Instead of seeing more gameplay content because they're happy to show it off, it's like they do it now just to satisfy the few old heads still around making up the final 10% of their marketing campaign.

I cringe just thinking about the annoying 2k stream with Ronnie where they play exclusively in the park and talk about hair styles and clothing options. I loath the days when Gold pack this and Silver Pack that, Rare Edition here, rare edition there, are focal point in their discussions.

I just want my grassroots contender NBA 2K back. Fame has made my favorite game turn into a gold digger. No longer is she the cute innocent summer fling, now she's the used up, cakeface lady strutting her stuff all over Broadway.

I read stuff like this and I just shake my head men. Name another dev on any dev team with a weekly show discussing NBA hoops and video games ? Just becuase you don't see us don't mean we not here.

Muzzle ?

[MikeGSW]

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Nothing was innovative about 2K14 or 15. At all. I'm a gameplay guy and it was the same game on both consoles. I actually like the PS3 2Ks better. Same will probably be said for 2k16.

If it impresses you cool. If you can point on what was innovative. That's cool too.

I'm here because I'm a member on the forum not because I'm wishing 2k is gonna drop some new bomb on us because it's clear they're not.

Their marketing has nothing to do with me being in here right now. This isn't even their forums lol smh. But of course you're right. Nobody can say you're wrong. You know everything. 2k is the greatest bball game on the market. etc. etc.

You got it bruh. Just stop trolling me in multiple threads with pointless replies because you don't like my opinion. Thanks.

1. You're the one who keeps replying to me.

2. If you don't think the game has improved year in and year out I dare you to go back and play 2k12. Tell me it has better gameplay smh. Take off your rose tinted glasses for a second and actually think about it.

3. You're here discussing their game. Which means the marketing is working. If it wasn't working. You wouldn't be discussing it. Simple.

4. I haven't noticed you before but I'm going to take a mental note of your username so I can see all of your reactions leading up to release day. Watch how you slowly become consumed with the hype and start posting "I take it all back blah blah blah" people do this every year. The outlandish complaints followed by child like excitement. You'll buy the game. Hell you already have you just don't know it yet. You're predictable. I can already predict what you'll be saying this time next year... "I prefered the ps3 2ks better, why haven't they shown gameplay yet? Are they hiding something". Same song and dance every damn year.

[MikeGSW]

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Seriously has anyone noticed how it's the same people (Ill, wii etc) that complain the loudest and start **** in every thread? And has anyone thought about them being Live fans? Put two and two together yet?

The trolling going on from the Live gang is hilarious. Bravo. I'm impressed by your level of commitment.

I've never seen a fan base become so filled with bitterness and resentment. I played the live games up until 04/05. I didn't like 2k back then so I completely understand how much it must suck being the lesser game. But they really just need to accept it and move on. One day Live will catch up again. And who knows. Maybe they'll be outselling 2k.

But right now, Live sucks. Sucks big fat donkey balls. Live 15 was atrocious. The fact that they even released it is a crime against the video game community. Hopefully Live 16 is better.

They will continue to over analyse 2k to try and find ANYTHING to complain about. And 2K is by no means flawless. It's had some huge issues and has a lot of areas to improve on. But if the biggest issue this year is Stephen Curry's lateral incisor has a chip in it and his hair needs brushed out. I'll be happy.

Sorry but it had to be said. If the mods are content letting them troll every thread. Then please, continue. It should be funny.

[hesko]

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Just because you don't see us don't mean we not here.

Muzzle ?

just like the wind my friend, you feel me, but you can't see me. lol

the other poster not knowing what they meant by getting over your height.
this is something people usually say about people who are "undersized" at their position. Mugsy, Nate, Steph, Iverson, all these guys are small at their position. but they play BIG.