Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

[ataman5]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

The legitimacy of the defense has nothing to do with pleasing casuals.

The truth is that balancing a game is a lot of hard work. It is just flat difficult to do. Deisgning and implementing this stuff takes a lot of coordinated teamwork.

Sometimes you nail it and sometimes you don't.

Everything in the game is constantly changing. One build you have it nailed but then something changes somewhere else and now your back at stage 1.

Things are much less about conspiracy against eperienced users and more about the craft of designing and implementing a game design in a tight window.

Everything has to lineup and then you have to be lucky and then something unexpected can still happen like a bug etc.

So just my experienced 2 cents on that one. I have never been in a single meeting where it was implied let's remove all defense and make a one sided game. These are terribly complex moving interconnected parts fam. It is not easy. If it were the perfect game would have been made by now.

Very well put Nino. Thanks for clearing that up yet; as you've stated then the parts that are being implemeted on offensive sides and whoever those devs are should be very well aware where defensive counters(implementations) will stand and should be in direct coordination with defensive creators or devs etc. and i bet you already have been doing this though i just needed to to be heard.

Thank you for all the effort you've put in.. I'm sure we'll be in a treat hopefully the best balanced treat of all...

[J_Posse]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

The legitimacy of the defense has nothing to do with pleasing casuals.

The truth is that balancing a game is a lot of hard work. It is just flat difficult to do. Deisgning and implementing this stuff takes a lot of coordinated teamwork.

Sometimes you nail it and sometimes you don't.

Everything in the game is constantly changing. One build you have it nailed but then something changes somewhere else and now your back at stage 1.

Things are much less about conspiracy against eperienced users and more about the craft of designing and implementing a game design in a tight window.

Everything has to lineup and then you have to be lucky and then something unexpected can still happen like a bug etc.

So just my experienced 2 cents on that one. I have never been in a single meeting where it was implied let's remove all defense and make a one sided game. These are terribly complex moving interconnected parts fam. It is not easy. If it were the perfect game would have been made by now.

Point well made, Czar.

I actually thought that after patch #3 the game showed a lot of improvement with defenders tracking the ball and getting swats. For whatever reason that improvement was lost after the last patch. Hoping y'all can find the sweet spot for this and on-ball/off-balance steals with elite thieves.

More blocks like these are what the game lacks:

https://youtu.be/lXi03nnZmAU

For whatever reason NBA.com didn't include (homer pick) the block of the year:

https://youtu.be/L9fUMHPrl_U

from Spurs Nation/Bills Backer HQ

[ataman5]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

Well i was checking my videos and encountered with this Monstreous block of Noah!!! I mean this was a game in our beloved Online League TSBT Season 19.

Difficulty and Sliders are HOF-SIM

It was one and only kind of block i've ever done all along 2k15.

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[Hopsin]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

I went back to play 2K14 on the PS4 and I honestly forgot how nice the blocking was on that game. Playing MyCareer, my centers weren't useless, Andre Drummond was a block monster.
I wish 2K could've found a way to tweak this system. it was pretty good!

[Hallucination]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

The legitimacy of the defense has nothing to do with pleasing casuals.

The truth is that balancing a game is a lot of hard work. It is just flat difficult to do. Deisgning and implementing this stuff takes a lot of coordinated teamwork.

Sometimes you nail it and sometimes you don't.

Everything in the game is constantly changing. One build you have it nailed but then something changes somewhere else and now your back at stage 1.

Things are much less about conspiracy against eperienced users and more about the craft of designing and implementing a game design in a tight window.

Everything has to lineup and then you have to be lucky and then something unexpected can still happen like a bug etc.

So just my experienced 2 cents on that one. I have never been in a single meeting where it was implied let's remove all defense and make a one sided game. These are terribly complex moving interconnected parts fam. It is not easy. If it were the perfect game would have been made by now.

You must realize what it looks like from the consumers perspective. Back during NBA2K14 (last gen) everyone here was complaining about turnovers, defensive bumping and steals. What changed on defense between last gen 2K14 and next gen 14/15? Basically what people were complaining about. Defense doesn't even exist now. 2K15 is a complete one sided game. Players don't get punished for running straight into a defender any more. The whole game rewards poor offensive play.

Also fix the servers it is 2015 and I won't buy another 2K game until I can play online without 1 second delay. And don't tell me it is my fault.

[GradyMac]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

I understand that people may want changes and stuff, but comments like this are ludicrous.

"Defense doesn't even exist now."

My squad runs regularly at the park and we win by playing great team defense. Yes we run into teams that get the better of us, but when you say defense doesn't even exist it makes me think you are just whining.

So much hyperbole.

[Hallucination]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

Y

I understand that people may want changes and stuff, but comments like this are ludicrous.

"Defense doesn't even exist now."

My squad runs regularly at the park and we win by playing great team defense. Yes we run into teams that get the better of us, but when you say defense doesn't even exist it makes me think you are just whining.

So much hyperbole.

Playing the park is all we need to know. That isn't even competitive 2K. Team up with real teams on real courts is the only competitive game type. And defense doesn't exist at a high level there. All cheese.

[coolcras7]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

You must realize what it looks like from the consumers perspective. Back during NBA2K14 (last gen) everyone here was complaining about turnovers, defensive bumping and steals. What changed on defense between last gen 2K14 and next gen 14/15? Basically what people were complaining about. Defense doesn't even exist now. 2K15 is a complete one sided game. Players don't get punished for running straight into a defender any more. The whole game rewards poor offensive play.

Also fix the servers it is 2015 and I won't buy another 2K game until I can play online without 1 second delay. And don't tell me it is my fault.

I am sure you won't be missed, and thanks for completely missing DaCzar point that nothing is a simple as some people make it out to be.

[Pokes404]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

Y

Playing the park is all we need to know. That isn't even competitive 2K. Team up with real teams on real courts is the only competitive game type. And defense doesn't exist at a high level there. All cheese.

I play team up almost exclusively and it is absolutely possible to play good team defense in 2K15. Yes, we all know the shooting percentages are too high overall this year. There are certainly times when it's very difficult to stop players and you end up giving up a ridiculous FG%. Obviously, the better the gamers you play, the more likely this is to happen.

But to say that defense doesn't exist at all is a blatant exaggeration. My group has had plenty of games where we've held the opposing team to multiple single digit quarters. We're all hoping that defense gets a boost in 2K16, but it is possible to play D in 2K15.

Additionally, Da_Czar just gave a breakdown on how things are harder to do in the game then they appear, and then you immediately respond with "fix the servers." As if all he needs to do is crawl behind the desk and fix that loose cable that's causing all the server problems. I'm sure they're maximizing their efforts to make the servers as reliable as possible. They have a vested interest in giving everyone as smooth and reliable an online experience as possible. But if their product doesn't meet your standards, then by all means, don't purchase the game this year.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

Ready to hear about some D!




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[myathebee]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

I miss live ball physics and ball tracking..Despite the complaints I enjoyed it on last gen,they need to make triumphant return...Don't be scared take two just improve it.


Overall defense was lacking in 2k15..I found stealing while someone was in the post was impossible.Initiating double teams on big men in the post was also impossible.

We need a year of the defense again with live ball physics (look at nba live...They do it correctly) and proper ball tracking.

Probably won't be 2k16 but these needs to be addressed.

[8KB24]

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Having Hibbert on your team feels worthless this year. Yes, they miss layups a lot it I hold my hands up and time that well but going for a block with 7'2 2010s best rim protector? Nah brah, he'll dunk on ya...or slide past you...or something. It was frustrating. I know how much fun I had with MyCareer on 2k14 last gen with my 6'11 defensive center and I thought 'having Hibbert protect the paint behind Kobe-Russell backcourt is not gonna be a problem for my defense..just channel players to the middle and have Roy be in the middle and no problemo amigo' ...what a huge mistake.

[ATLBrayden]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

Seems like it's time to revisit this thread... how does everyone feel about blocking this year? I feel like it's much improved and I love it, you can actually block from behind now and pin people against the glass.

I've been playing some all star team up and I've had six blocks with KD, five blocks with KD, four blocks with LeBron ('12-'13), and three blocks with LeBron ('12-'13) so far. I probably get at least two per game in park.

Here's a small compilation of blocks I put together (plus a bonus clip at the end):

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[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

The CPU blocks are looking better. Not perfect, but much better.

[SonnyFranchise]

Re: Will blocking shots be improved in 2K16?

Noticed the improvement in blocking in MyCareer, I play for the kings off of the bench and when I'm in, usually Cauley Stein is usually in. That guy blocked 4 shots in one game with 3 coming from me losing my man (Harden) and him coming with the help defense.

Before (2k15 and before) AI Centers on my teams never averaged more than 1 Block Per Game for me, even Anthony Davis last year for my Center MyCareer only averaged 1.2BPG when were on the same team. Now his help defense makes me weary when I'm driving.

I didn't think 2k could do it, but this is a great balanced gameplay addition