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  • alecast
    Pro
    • Aug 2011
    • 550

    #1366
    Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

    Originally posted by daveberg
    True, but by having other priorities (Online, Park, Mycareer), they shun a large portion of the 2k community by not spending equal time on the other modes/features that are widely enjoyed.

    I realize that most folk only care about online stuff, which is fine, I get it, but they should at least understand that there are plenty of folk who play the game outside of online matches who'd like to see other things worked on.

    The legends have been nerfed since we moved onto this generation of consoles - granted, they were kind enough to expand them last year (?) but as far as visuals go (Players/arenas/shoes) and signature elements, they've got worse every year. Removing players. Removing teams. Removing signature moves. Losing authentic arena sounds - all things that were present last gen.

    Seeings we're on more powerful machines, there's more disc space and more opportunity for improvement, I'm not surprised as consumers that we've got something to be critical about.

    As mentioned above, for a thread this large and that has continued for so long, knowing Devs DO follow some of the stuff here, it's quite telling that they haven't addressed this stuff. Says a lot in regards to the legends aspect of the game - it's clearly just small fry stuff for 2k, which is sad considering it has quite a large following.

    I won't be deterred though - I'll be right back here, or in a new thread for 2k18, trying to push for there to be improvements for the classic teams all over again. Probably wasting my time, but you gotta try, right?
    They are not shunning retro players in my opinion. You are all here discussing the game and you will all buy it as soon as possible. Why should they care anyway?

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    • scbond3
      Rookie
      • Feb 2003
      • 97

      #1367
      Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

      Originally posted by VDusen04
      Honestly kind of looks like a young and slightly skinnier Chris Webber in the face there.

      At least some of the accessories should be able to be edited though, right? Even though the leg sleeve is kind of jacked?
      sock length was editable by player last year, so that should be easy to fix on that young MJ with no socks if 2k doesn't fixes it in a roster update. Same for arm/knee pads which is why i never cared if they got the color right because the color was editable also. atleast they finally got the most important thing to me right, "its gotta be the shoes"

      Last edited by scbond3; 09-02-2016, 09:08 PM.

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      • scbond3
        Rookie
        • Feb 2003
        • 97

        #1368
        Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

        i noticed it in the kicks thread but it probably should be here. they finally fixed the NBA logo on the 95 Knicks shorts. its been at the top of the shorts since new gen...

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        • Goffs
          New Ork Giants
          • Feb 2003
          • 12279

          #1369
          Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

          Originally posted by scbond3


          Atleast they fixed the stripe socks. those weren't working last year either...
          Dumars...looks a little bit better?

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #1370
            Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

            Originally posted by Goffs
            Dumars...looks a little bit better?
            Dumars plays for the Bucks?

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            • MarkWilliam
              72-10
              • Oct 2012
              • 2325

              #1371
              Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

              Originally posted by 23
              Dumars plays for the Bucks?
              Speaks volumes about classic players doesn't it.....

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              • youvalss
                ******
                • Feb 2007
                • 16601

                #1372
                Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

                Even if they get the old courts and B&W, which is great, they still need to fix the baskets. It always bugs me. It's just wrong using these 21st century baskets:



                Although this looks better -



                They should look like this:




                The backboard was longer - going lower, and the baskets were completely different, probably much more stiff and not that flexible as they are today.
                Last edited by youvalss; 09-02-2016, 09:29 PM.
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                • MarkWilliam
                  72-10
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 2325

                  #1373
                  Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

                  Originally posted by youvalss
                  Even if they get the old courts and B&W, which is great, they still need to fix the baskets. It always bugs me. It's just wrong using these 21st century baskets:

                  Spoiler



                  They should look like this:

                  Spoiler
                  Which is odd, because they get the 80s baskets right....
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                  • youvalss
                    ******
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 16601

                    #1374
                    Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

                    I guess they just can't go back to the old-old baskets, then.

                    Also, did they not remove the restricted are from the old courts? Looks like it's still there. And how about 3pt line and pre-80's courts?
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                    GPU: Monochrome display
                    RAM: 48 KB
                    OS: Sinclair BASIC

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                    • youvalss
                      ******
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 16601

                      #1375
                      Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

                      Also, is there text on Penny's elbow pad, or am I imagining? -


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                      GPU: Monochrome display
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                      OS: Sinclair BASIC

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                      • MarkWilliam
                        72-10
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 2325

                        #1376
                        Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

                        Originally posted by youvalss
                        Also, is there text on Penny's elbow pad, or am I imagining? -


                        Looks like it to me. Nice screen too.

                        Again (on baskets) - mid 90s game with current baskets.....hmmm....

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                        • youvalss
                          ******
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 16601

                          #1377
                          Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

                          Unless.......they gave him the same pad they gave Horace, which would be really annoying. But I'll wait for a better screen/video.
                          My Specs:

                          ZX Spectrum
                          CPU: Z80 @ 3.5 MHz
                          GPU: Monochrome display
                          RAM: 48 KB
                          OS: Sinclair BASIC

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                          • Goffs
                            New Ork Giants
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 12279

                            #1378
                            Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

                            Originally posted by 23
                            Dumars plays for the Bucks? [emoji38]
                            Lol holy ****

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                            • eko718
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 2257

                              #1379
                              Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

                              Originally posted by youvalss
                              Noticed that too right away. I'm almost sure something like that has happened in the past. Must be some older build or something, I'm almost sure I had seen it hapening before. Hopefully it will be fixed.

                              They are still so bad with accessories. Mid 80's MJ never wore that calf sleeve, he wore a knee pad. And he never had a black forearm band, it was white (and later red). Why do they give him these by default?
                              This is the way he looked in 2K16; I don't give them the benefit of the doubt on that older build stuff when it comes to Classics... this is likely the Mike we are getting. The reason he has no socks is probably because this "calf sleeve" goes down to the socks and that would look clearly off. I'm pretty sure they can see that the accessory itself is wrong. When you purchase the sleeve in MyCareer, it even looks different; not sure how it looks equipped however.

                              It's interesting. When 2K11 came out they tried to be meticulous about every minute detail (including accessories); there was a clear effort to get Jordan correct. Many of the devs even spoke passionately about that. Last year they actually come out with a Jordan edition with a half-a**ed version of Mike and of all the historical players improved visually this year, they don't bother to even touch Jordan OR correct the errors (ie: calf sleeve) that were introduced in 2K16. Clearly they still understand he is an attraction, promoting him in vids and such. Maybe they truly believe this Jordan is perfect? Because instead of improving him they just keep showing the same thing in different pics and from different angles.

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                              • daveberg
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 2788

                                #1380
                                Re: Will MJ actually look like MJ this year?

                                Originally posted by MarkWilliam
                                Looks like it to me. Nice screen too.

                                Again (on baskets) - mid 90s game with current baskets.....hmmm....

                                That's a glitch that's clearly returned from 2k16 - all the classic teams in the 80's/90's have the right rim......apart from Orlando.

                                Go figure.

                                Soooooo they can get it down to an art with detailing elbow/wrist bands with decals & text, yet can't get a calf sleeve right?

                                Mark - find me a huge facepalm gif!!!
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