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  • freekbird
    Rookie
    • Nov 2009
    • 53

    #166
    Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

    Originally posted by Pokes404
    A player's impact on the game and a player's individual skills are two entirely different things. There are talented players who can stuff a box score but don't help their team win, and there are less talented players who make the little plays to help their squad get the W. The OVR rating measures a player's individual skills. Iguodala is a poor free throw shooter, an average and inconsistent jump shooter, a good-but-not-great ballhandler/passer/athlete, and a hardworking defender with good wingspan. He isn't the most skilled player on his own, but he's an incredible piece within a team concept.

    The OVR rating measures a player's skill, it's up to the user to utilize him within the team correctly. And again, we don't even know what his actual ratings are. All we have is an OVR rating. Let's pick it up again when/if we get the game and Iguodala has low IQ and is rated terribly in the defensive categories. Then people would have a legitimate argument.

    I realize I just made it worse by commenting and further perpetuating this thread, but seriously, we need to stop before this thread becomes self-aware and attempts to terminate Sarah Connor.
    Pretty much this....

    Another thing people dont take into consideration is the tendencies portion of a players ratings...

    Take Kobe for example, lets say he is more than capable of making shots from everywhere on the court but his tendencies to take bad/contested shots are through the roof...his overall rating would still be high because he can make open shots, but if he takes bad shots he will still shoot a low %...something to consider

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    • RandomPerson
      Rookie
      • Aug 2012
      • 174

      #167
      Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

      Originally posted by Pokes404
      A player's impact on the game and a player's individual skills are two entirely different things. There are talented players who can stuff a box score but don't help their team win, and there are less talented players who make the little plays to help their squad get the W. The OVR rating measures a player's individual skills. Iguodala is a poor free throw shooter, an average and inconsistent jump shooter, a good-but-not-great ballhandler/passer/athlete, and a hardworking defender with good wingspan. He isn't the most skilled player on his own, but he's an incredible piece within a team concept.

      The OVR rating measures a player's skill, it's up to the user to utilize him within the team correctly. And again, we don't even know what his actual ratings are. All we have is an OVR rating. Let's pick it up again when/if we get the game and Iguodala has low IQ and is rated terribly in the defensive categories. Then people would have a legitimate argument.

      I realize I just made it worse by commenting and further perpetuating this thread, but seriously, we need to stop before this thread becomes self-aware and attempts to terminate Sarah Connor.
      I don't care about the initial ratings in 2K. In fact, I have no idea why it's such a hot topic of discussion every year. You can edit them. Do people not understand that?

      My point about Iguodala was more about some of the people in this thread just reading his raw averages and making conclusions. "Well he only averaged 8 points...meh, not that good of a player" You can tell those people don't understand his impact.

      I'd say Iguodala is a GREAT ball handler and passer for someone of his size. His assist/TO ratio in the playoffs was mind boggling..better than CP3.

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      • HowDareI
        MVP
        • Jan 2012
        • 1900

        #168
        Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

        All I'm seeing is a lot of people posting numbers and %'s but they've never really seen Iggy play...

        I watched him since he was number 4, till Webber gave him a rolex and took number 9, till he was the man in Philly all alone giving us 20 a night playing like a baby bron....till he let Jrue shine in the playoffs...etc etc...

        He was always the most underrated/underappreciated player on a team.
        He was always able to give you 20+ a night, but he's like Lebron where he'd much, much rather play point and distribute the ball.
        He'll pass up 30 for 10 assists any day.
        Defensively, always on the toughest matchup since he was a rookie.
        Down the stretch? He's creating the offense, and he'll take the shot if he has to.

        Just because he's a role player on the best team we've seen in awhile, doesn't change how good he is. He can still do them things, but he doesn't have to. He sacrifices his personal stats for team success and that's why he never fit in as the number 1 option here...we didn't put scorers around him like GS has.

        I won't complain he's too low, because as long as he can bring the ball up and play point forward, hit some open 3s, give a sneaky poster every now and then, and lockup anyone...he's where he needs to be. But if you underestimate his ability he can easily drop 20.
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        • GradyMac
          Rookie
          • Nov 2012
          • 421

          #169
          Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

          Originally posted by MGSW
          The only other defender in the league that has ever shut LeBron down is Kawhi Leonard.
          lol, he said "shut down Lebron."

          Also; are you saying you want ratings based off of the best series the player played all year?

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          • DC
            Hall Of Fame
            • Oct 2002
            • 17996

            #170
            Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

            Originally posted by RandomPerson
            I don't care about the initial ratings in 2K. In fact, I have no idea why it's such a hot topic of discussion every year. You can edit them. Do people not understand that?
            You can take custom rosters online this year?
            Concrete evidence/videos please

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            • Ownal0t
              MVP
              • Jul 2014
              • 1244

              #171
              Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

              I really don't get why this is a big deal. The man has been overly praised for "shutting down" a guy who literally put up one of the greatest finals or individual performance we will ever see in our lives. And only lost cause his team didn't show up and injuries. Lol.

              Iggy is a bench role player with a spotty offensive game. Yes he can ball, but if we going off "can ball " Lance Stephenson should be a 90

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              • eaciv973
                Rookie
                • Mar 2004
                • 36

                #172
                Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

                Just change his rating to 82 when you get the game

                /thread

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                • MGSW
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 279

                  #173
                  Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

                  Originally posted by Ownal0t
                  I really don't get why this is a big deal. The man has been overly praised for "shutting down" a guy who literally put up one of the greatest finals or individual performance we will ever see in our lives. And only lost cause his team didn't show up and injuries. Lol.

                  Iggy is a bench role player with a spotty offensive game. Yes he can ball, but if we going off "can ball " Lance Stephenson should be a 90
                  LeBron out on one of the best worst performances ever. This is true.

                  Check the numbers.

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                  • Hassan Darkside
                    We Here
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 7561

                    #174
                    Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

                    Originally posted by MGSW
                    LeBron out on one of the best worst performances ever. This is true.

                    Check the numbers.
                    LOL... you casual fans and your reliance on basic box score numbers is hilarious.
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                    • MGSW
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 279

                      #175
                      Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

                      Originally posted by Hassan Darkside
                      LOL... you casual fans and your reliance on basic box score numbers is hilarious.
                      Who said anything about box score numbers? I said check the numbers. Didn't specify which.

                      Nice try though. I appreciate the attempt.

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                      • harryl
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 2663

                        #176
                        Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

                        Originally posted by Ownal0t
                        Iggy is a bench role player with a spotty offensive game.
                        In the expected spectrum of 2K16 ratings, I think Iguodala's is probably about right, but you shouldn't be so dismissive of him. He's not a "bench role player." He mostly came off the bench this last season because general consensus is that Barnes is terrible when coming off the bench, whereas Iguodala plays well whether off the bench or starting.

                        There is no question he's a "Starter"-level player in the NBA. He comes off the bench because of the particular circumstances of his team's roster and because he's a selfless professional willing to do what is best for his team.

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                        • ATLBrayden
                          All-Pro
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 747

                          #177
                          Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

                          Originally posted by Sundown
                          Fatigue had a lot to do with Lebron's performance-- and Iguodala had a lot to do with Lebron's fatigue. Iguodala has mentioned that his approach was to make Lebron work for everything, and he was equipped to do so having intimate knowledge of how to defend Lebron through the years.

                          I find it interesting that Lebron's performance gets repeatedly excused as fatigue with little reference to what was responsible for the fatigue-- ignoring the fact that Lebron shot the worst against Iguodala compared to his other defenders by a clear margin, even early in the series. I mean Curry was also being worn down by Dellavedova in Game 2. That doesn't take anything away from Dellavedova's defense. That's what elite defense is TRYING and SUPPOSED to do. Except Delly couldn't keep it up without being worn down by Curry himself.
                          People are acting like Iggy held LeBron to 4ppg or something, he still had a historical performance and even received votes for finals MVP. LeBron was playing 45.7MPG and had no supporting cast so it's easier to defend someone if they're the only giant threat on the court.

                          No one is ignoring the fact that Iggy defended LeBron well, but people are acting like he should be rated 85+ and have ultra elite defensive ratings, Iggy isn't one of the all-time great defenders, he's a good defender in the league today. If 2K is using a new all-time rating scale, and Iggy isn't an all time player, why should he be rated like one?

                          Also Curry had an easier task taking on Delly because he had Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Bogut, Barnes, etc, and a full bench. Who was LeBron supposed to delegate to? Delly who shot 28%? J.R. who shot 31%? Shumpert who shot 25%?
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                          • SportsGamer94
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2015
                            • 343

                            #178
                            Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

                            2K rating scale is lower, the average highest overall is probably around 90, so Iggy being a 77 overall is about right.

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                            • MGSW
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 279

                              #179
                              Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

                              Originally posted by ATLBrayden
                              People are acting like Iggy held LeBron to 4ppg or something, he still had a historical performance and even received votes for finals MVP. LeBron was playing 45.7MPG and had no supporting cast so it's easier to defend someone if they're the only giant threat on the court.

                              No one is ignoring the fact that Iggy defended LeBron well, but people are acting like he should be rated 85+ and have ultra elite defensive ratings, Iggy isn't one of the all-time great defenders, he's a good defender in the league today. If 2K is using a new all-time rating scale, and Iggy isn't an all time player, why should he be rated like one?

                              Also Curry had an easier task taking on Delly because he had Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Bogut, Barnes, etc, and a full bench. Who was LeBron supposed to delegate to? Delly who shot 28%? J.R. who shot 31%? Shumpert who shot 25%?
                              It was the best worst performance ever.

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                              • TheDuggler
                                Pro
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 728

                                #180
                                Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

                                Originally posted by MGSW
                                It was the best worst performance ever.
                                What attributes do you think that Iggy is going to be underrated in with a 77 overall?

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