Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

[Kstat]

Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

Lebron played exhausted. Dude had the Gatorade icon from the opening tip between games 4-6 and could never rest up. Iggy is a fine defender and had a great series but in no way did he "shut leBron down."

Btw, iggy took something like 80% of his shots wide open because curry and thompson were in the floor with him. Credit for knocking them down but let's stop pretending he morphed into MJ.

[luijo]

Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

Offensive ratings: 60
Defensive ratings: 95

Overall rating: 77

Math

[RandomPerson]

Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

Iggy is a fine defender and had a great series but in no way did he "shut leBron down."

Lebron shot like 35% when guarded by Iguodala. If that's not shutting him down, I don't know what is.

[El_Poopador]

Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

Lebron shot like 35% when guarded by Iguodala. If that's not shutting him down, I don't know what is.

Can you post a link to where you can find these splits?

[GSWarriors9]

Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

Considering Andre was rated 78 with the last official roster update in 2K15 I don't see how this is a problem. It's only 1 point down with a new ratings system in place. Sure Andre won Finals MVP but I think the ratings are based on the entire season as a whole, not a 6 game sample size. Plus as many of people have already stated the individual ratings are way more important. Iguodala's effect on the game often times doesn't show up on the stat sheet but as long as he still plays like himself there shouldn't be a problem.

[raidertiger]

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not efficient, no. but what do people expect? I have never seen one man do so much to carry a team. and I grew up watching Jordan. it wasnt a bad performance. without it, the Cavs dont get there, much less win any games.

LeBron led his Cavs team to the 29th best offense in the league when he was on the game. His team played better on offense in the games he lost rather than the ones he won. Cleveland only won two games because of defense/warriors struggling.

These are the stats, not the narrative of carrying.

[manu1433]

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Lebron shot like 35% when guarded by Iguodala. If that's not shutting him down, I don't know what is.

i did the math earlier in the thread

Iggy only guarded him for about 8 shots per game

he made about 2.7/8 with Iggy guarding him

with an average warrior on him, he was making 3.4/8

an extra 0.7 misses per game over 6 games equates to roughly 4 misses spread out over 6 games

Warriors play good team defense my man

[El_Poopador]

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i did the math earlier in the thread

Iggy only guarded him for about 8 shots per game

he made about 2.7/8 with Iggy guarding him

with an average warrior on him, he was making 3.4/8

an extra 0.7 misses per game over 6 games equates to roughly 4 misses spread out over 6 games

Warriors play good team defense my man

That's assuming he only took 16 shots per game, when in reality, he was taking double that. 38, 35, 34, 22, 34, 33.

[Kdot]

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People really ignore that Lebron had to do everything that series like he didn't play every minute and pour it all out on the court. Iggy guarded a exhausted Lebron and still was getting 35 a game I no way shape or form did he **** down Lebron get real guys

[manu1433]

Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

That's assuming he only took 16 shots per game, when in reality, he was taking double that. 38, 35, 34, 22, 34, 33.

Iggy only guarded him for 8 shots per game

the average warrior player in that scenario would simply replace Iggy for those 8 shots since they were already guarding him for all the other shots already

my math is already based on Lebron's total number of shots for the entire series

[Sundown]

Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

Bron,Kobe and Iggy looking at their 2k16 ratings for the first time

This is amazing.

Joining Iguodala as underrated high impact defensive players are Draymond and Bogut, as well as guys like Danny Green (76).

2K basically has anyone who is a elite defensive role player at around 77, but all of these guys are actually an important part of the offense.

There's a big difference from a guy who just defends and a guy who can keep an offense flowing from their smarts and high level basketball IQ even if they are limited scorers themselves. I feel like these guys should be at 80 instead of 77, because they're as or even more valuable than the inefficient scorers and poor defenders 2K gives 81s to.

At least Draymond got an 82. But we're taking DPOY runner up with workable offensive skills and smarts here. He's probably the Warriors second best player comparable with Klay. I expected a bit more, at least over broken down, ineffective star types.

[TheDuggler]

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This is amazing.

Joining Iguodala as underrated high impact defensive players are Draymond and Bogut, as well as guys like Danny Green (76).

2K basically has anyone who is a elite defensive role player at around 77, but all of these guys are actually an important part of the offense.

There's a big difference from a guy who just defends and a guy who can keep an offense flowing from their smarts and high level basketball IQ even if they are limited scorers themselves. I feel like these guys should be at 80 instead of 77, because they're as or even more valuable than the inefficient scorers and poor defenders 2K gives 81s to.

At least Draymond got an 82. But we're taking DPOY runner up with workable offensive skills and smarts here. He's probably the Warriors second best player comparable with Klay. I expected a bit more, at least over broken down, ineffective star types.

What ratings should 2K increase in order to put these players at 80 instead of 76/77?

In other words, what specific ratings has 2K undervalued Iggy and these other defensive players at?

[OfficialQbN]

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I think people are losing sight of what was discussed when they first announced the ratings system for 2K16...

This 77 overall that Iguodala is based upon the hall of fame ratings scale that has been implemented this year... I don't see the terrible crime committed...

[BluFu]

Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

He's probably the Warriors second best player comparable with Klay. I expected a bit more, at least over broken down, ineffective star types.

Why not just say Kobe? We all know who you're talking about

[El_Poopador]

Re: Andre Iguodala is a 77 Overall

This is amazing.

Joining Iguodala as underrated high impact defensive players are Draymond and Bogut, as well as guys like Danny Green (76).

2K basically has anyone who is a elite defensive role player at around 77, but all of these guys are actually an important part of the offense.

There's a big difference from a guy who just defends and a guy who can keep an offense flowing from their smarts and high level basketball IQ even if they are limited scorers themselves. I feel like these guys should be at 80 instead of 77, because they're as or even more valuable than the inefficient scorers and poor defenders 2K gives 81s to.

At least Draymond got an 82. But we're taking DPOY runner up with workable offensive skills and smarts here. He's probably the Warriors second best player comparable with Klay. I expected a bit more, at least over broken down, ineffective star types.

This entire argument is about ratings. It has absolutely nothing to do with a player's impact on their team. It is only their individual attributes in a vacuum. If Iguodala was traded to the Kings, or the Lakers, or any other team for that matter, do you think he would be as useful as he is to the Warriors?

Tendencies can take care of their impact to their team, but his attributes should not be inflated because he plays well in a system. Unless you can show us which specific attributes he has been underrated in, AND that those attributes should be higher no matter what team he is on, then there is no argument here.