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  • Bornindamecca
    Books Nelson Simnation
    • Jul 2007
    • 10919

    #46
    Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

    Originally posted by idrisguitar
    This seems impossible, (I'm a game developer, and I know first hand how much effort goes into scripted game sequences.)

    They cannot provide freedom in a story driven mode without having to make an absurd number of scripted sequences, and personally I don't want that much of their team to be taken away from the core of the game improvements.
    Originally posted by BA2929
    I'd honestly like to know how 2k would be able to pull out a Mass Effect style story mode (when the story always ends up as you in the NBA) on a 9-12 month game cycle. That seems next to impossible. Also, Mass Effect 3 cost $40 million and 3 years to make. I'd be very surprised if NBA 2k has that big of a budget every single year. I understand you want a great story mode in your NBA game, but I think you might be asking too much of a game whose main job is to get the NBA gameplay and feel correct. Story is a distant 2nd.

    Plus, was it released that we wouldn't be able to pick our race and exactly how we look? I must have missed that news if it was.
    The answer to both of you is that this is a storytelling issue, not just a game design issue. It's an interactive story, and how you approach that determines where the resources go. The key is understanding which story points and choices need resources to enhance the player experience, and which parts are "active imagination" elements for the player.

    I'm not trying to drop credits or anything, but I've been a professional storyteller since the early 2000s, so I have a lot of experience in dealing with an audience in this way, and how structure, symbols and participation can get you the results necessary for what we're talking about.
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    • tsbmolina
      MVP
      • Feb 2012
      • 1291

      #47
      Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

      Ryan McCaffery- "Are you noticing any new animations or any other improvements or is it business as usual"? Reviewer Mike Mitchell- "It's still a beautiful game. They Probably added a Few more beautiful things to it but i's kind of hard to find that needle in a haystack".


      Are you F'N serious. Has the person reviewing the game on IGN not read the in depth blogs, or the fact that there is over 10,000 new animations or the fact that everyone that has played the game says the second you take control of the players you can feel the difference of how much smoother it is? IGN your a Big Fat Joke!!! I don't work in the game industry but if I did and had the responsibility to review a game I would definitely do my homework. I have -0% confidence in Mike Mitchell's review.
      Last edited by tsbmolina; 09-23-2015, 02:43 PM.

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      • Taer
        MVP
        • Sep 2011
        • 1432

        #48
        Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

        Originally posted by tt500
        How can you dictate anything in a mycareer mode. You would have to purposely run out of bounds and foul out to not make the nba in 2k10. Either way your forced to play games, the story is just a plus. And with all the extras they added, this is probally the best career mode from 2k.
        You don't remember the flash-flood complaint threads about being stuck in the D-League on OS on 2k10's day? As far as the story being a plus - the past two year's is a debatable conclusion. We'll see about this year's story.

        I hope you are right about this year being the best. The Off-season and off-day simulator system looks like it can be... but the rest, idk. I'll reserve judgement until I spend at least 20+ hours in the mode.

        Originally posted by 23
        The guy said he just got the game yesterday
        At least he was honest .

        Edit: As far as this "You can't do this" mantra: Yes, you can. A gamer's imagination is a powerful tool to utilize. Give me a list of colleges and universities and nations like we have had in the past and I can create 100's of stories for my MyCareer. When you limit the story to the 10 you have this year, can you do the same? Again, idk but my experiences tells me that you can't. We will see either way.
        Last edited by Taer; 09-23-2015, 02:53 PM.

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        • 8KB24
          MVP
          • Jun 2012
          • 2106

          #49
          Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

          Originally posted by Bornindamecca
          The answer to both of you is that this is a storytelling issue, not just a game design issue. It's an interactive story, and how you approach that determines where the resources go. The key is understanding which story points and choices need resources to enhance the player experience, and which parts are "active imagination" elements for the player.

          I'm not trying to drop credits or anything, but I've been a professional storyteller since the early 2000s, so I have a lot of experience in dealing with an audience in this way, and how structure, symbols and participation can get you the results necessary for what we're talking about.
          Do you think that a post Lakers24 made a year or so ago (might be two years) would be perfect for MyCareer? With a selection of something like this?





          Would storytelling be good enough for 4 different selection? Would there be enough time to incorporate this in it? Maybe this is a step in that direction?

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          • killu4what
            Rookie
            • Oct 2010
            • 82

            #50
            Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

            There is a lot of elite snobbery in this thread. In reality NBA 2k sells millions of copies to all type of people causal to hardcore. Reviews also cater to different types of people. Not all people care about free flow offense or shoes/headbands stats in year 3 of a franchise mode. Some people(causal) only care if its fun or better than last year.
            IGN is not OS so they obviously aren't going to dive into all minutiae of sim basketball(which is fine by many in their audience). This should be obvious. So why all the outrage, hyperbole, and elitism?

            Man the internet is kind of getting to me today. Why is nobody positive?

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            Last edited by killu4what; 09-23-2015, 03:15 PM.

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            • blues rocker
              MVP
              • Sep 2007
              • 1921

              #51
              Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

              holy crap the player movement in this IGN video is amazing. is it possible for it to look even better than the previously released gameplay vids? it looks so smooth and realistic. 2k really took things to a new level this year.

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              • MGSW
                Banned
                • Aug 2015
                • 279

                #52
                Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

                Originally posted by 8KB24
                Do you think that a post Lakers24 made a year or so ago (might be two years) would be perfect for MyCareer? With a selection of something like this?




                Would storytelling be good enough for 4 different selection? Would there be enough time to incorporate this in it? Maybe this is a step in that direction?
                I've been dreaming of this ever since he posted this.

                I really want a career where I can play as a sixth man for a few years, if not my whole career.

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                • lakers24
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2013

                  #53
                  Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

                  Originally posted by 8KB24
                  Do you think that a post Lakers24 made a year or so ago (might be two years) would be perfect for MyCareer? With a selection of something like this?





                  Would storytelling be good enough for 4 different selection? Would there be enough time to incorporate this in it? Maybe this is a step in that direction?
                  That wasn't even about storytelling, that was about choosing where you wanted to start your player off from when it came to attributes, expectations, endorsements, etc. This predated HS and college but I'd take a similar approach to this selection system so everyone can "choose a path" and get the experience they want. (btw for those wondering, this would be entirely its own exclusive mode while Park/Blacktop would become one so as to not have overpowered created players right off the bat)
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                  • RunN1st
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 2906

                    #54
                    Thank you, IGN.
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                    • tsbmolina
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1291

                      #55
                      Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

                      Originally posted by killu4what
                      There is a lot of elite snobbery in this thread. In reality NBA 2k sells millions of copies to all type of people causal to hardcore. Reviews also cater to different types of people. Not all people care about free flow offense or shoes/headbands stats in year 3 of a franchise mode. Some people(causal) only care if its fun or better than last year.
                      IGN is not OS so they obviously aren't going to dive into all menusa of sim basketball(which is fine by many in their audience). This should be obvious. So why all the outrage, hyperbole, and elitism?

                      Man the internet is kind of getting to me today. Why is nobody positive?

                      Sent from my Note 4
                      The problem is the reviewer didn't even know the basics of what was new in the game from reading or watching the many video blogs NBA 2K16 has shown. Without knowing what's new how do you know what to look for in such a huge game?
                      Last edited by tsbmolina; 09-23-2015, 02:57 PM.

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                      • zrohman
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 834

                        #56
                        Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

                        Originally posted by 23
                        Last year they gave 2k a 7.9 solely off of servers and didnt even mention the addition of freestyle offenses or anything.

                        I guess they checked trending buzzwords like cheese this time
                        When almost all of your game modes REQUIRE an online connection and your servers are that bad... It was very warranted, especially considering the servers the year before.


                        Not to mention even after everything got a little better, everything was still extremely laggy. I agree ign isn't always spot on but I agreed with last years review

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                        • tsbmolina
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1291

                          #57
                          Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

                          Originally posted by blues rocker
                          holy crap the player movement in this IGN video is amazing. is it possible for it to look even better than the previously released gameplay vids? it looks so smooth and realistic. 2k really took things to a new level this year.
                          It's the benefit of a Better video capturing card then the average joe. It will look even better on your t.v.

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                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 66469

                            #58
                            Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

                            Originally posted by zrohman
                            When almost all of your game modes REQUIRE an online connection and your servers are that bad... It was very warranted, especially considering the servers the year before.


                            Not to mention even after everything got a little better, everything was still extremely laggy. I agree ign isn't always spot on but I agreed with last years review
                            The heck does that have to do with gameplay?

                            The point is the review was one sided and biased

                            Didn't even mention additions or anything... IM not about to get into this offline vs online thing again

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                            • zrohman
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 834

                              #59
                              Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

                              Originally posted by BA2929
                              I'm going to cut this reviewer some slack.

                              He sounded really nervous and unprepared, which doesn't seem like it was his fault. It's like they said "Ok we're going to do a review preview right now. Give me a few talking points to push the conversation forward first and we're going to talk for an entire quarter." Plus, nearly half of the last 3 minutes of the video is just random things you'd say to your buddy on couch. Things like "Oh!!" and "Oh man!!!" and "Toni Kukoc?!?!??"

                              Anyway, if you go to IGN or Gamespot for your sports game reviews....... well......... that's probably not a good idea.
                              I agree. Give a little break here. They chose to give us a quick preview. They weren't giving a full review, it's in progress

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                              • killu4what
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 82

                                #60
                                Re: NBA 2K16 Review in Progress IGN

                                Originally posted by tsbmolina
                                The problem is the reviewer didn't even know the basics of what was new in the game from reading or watching the video blogs. Without knowing what's new how do you know what to look for in such a huge game?
                                Well maybe he is reviewing the game without comparing it previous entries. Also this is not his actually review.

                                Third and most importantly who cares. Is anyone on this board going to let a review sway their opinion. If you have all the information from blogs and videos. You will be able to make an informed decision.

                                Also you know what to look for by simply playing the game. One can argue its better to review something without any preconceptions.

                                Sent from my Note 4
                                Last edited by killu4what; 09-23-2015, 03:08 PM.

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