Some of these ratings prove that the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

[houston911]

Re: Some of these ratings prove that the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

let's stop with the "subjective" talk

"subjective" would be arguing who is a better defender out of jimmy butler and kawhi leonard.

steve nash being a terrible defender is a fact.

stop making excuses for 2k.

the game is great but some of these ratings are pathetic.

on what planet is Steve Nash faster than kyrie irving and jeff teague?

[Dlongz]

Re: Some of these ratings make it seem like the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

How does an entire staff overlook ratings like:

2004-2005 Steve Nash having a B+ rating as a defender. His defensive attributes match up with guys like Chris Paul, Avery Bradley, and Russell Westbrook. What makes this so comical is the fact that 2002-2003 Steve Nash had a 65 on ball defensive rating.

So somehow Nash was 2 years older, playing for a worse defensive team, and his defensive rating jumped by 19 points. Yall need to put his defense back at 65 where it belongs.

Shawn Kemp has a 60 midrange jumper rating. They gave Richard Hamilton an 89 3 point rating despite shooting 24 percent from 3

They gave Pierre Jackson a 25 dunk rating and a 60 vertical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls-4PFZmKbE

Hakeem Olajuwon has a 73 midrange jumpers. Compare that to some of these other big mens ratings and explain how that makes sense.

I could give examples for days

If you're too lazy to do accurate ratings then hire someone who knows what they're talking about.

You have to remember that this year's rating system is different from all the past 2ks. They are meant to stack up current players with "The NBA best in history." Hence the Dennis Rodman references about his 99 rebound rating.

Also showing Jackson's college footage for NBA ratings doesn't make much sense.

Nash rating doesn't make much sense either way though.

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[DC]

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Well Pierre Jackson did THIS in the D-League All Star game as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXtXqhLX4Xk

[noodlebombz]

Re: Some of these ratings prove that the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

Cup is 1% empty for some people...

[jfsolo]

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You have to remember that this year's rating system is different from all the past 2ks. They are meant to stack up current players with "The NBA best in history." Hence the Dennis Rodman references about his 99 rebound rating.

Also showing Jackson's college footage for NBA ratings doesn't make much sense.

Nash rating doesn't make much sense either way though.

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Come on. Unless a player shreds their knee or Achilles, hops are directly translatable to any level. The game is a masterpiece, but it's ok to admit when something gets completely flubbed.

[cima]

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Also, the 06-07 Cavs are rated higher overall than the 12-13 Heat...GTFO with that garbage.

[Real2KInsider]

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Come on. Unless a player shreds their knee or Achilles, hops are directly translatable to any level. The game is a masterpiece, but it's ok to admit when something gets completely flubbed.

He literally tore his achillies.

[Real2KInsider]

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The ratings do need some work. Can somebody explain how D. Russell on the lakers is rated higher tha Jordan Clarkson even though Clarkson was all rookie and clearly outperformes Russell in summer league? Also they have Jordan Clarksons speed at a whopping 74!!! A 74 for speed for a point guard who is 23 and is called baby westbrook by some a 74 in speed! Im not going to get into a franchise or do mucn until updates are made on ratings and the defense needs to be toned down.

Speed ratings were reduced across the board. You guys gotta put your research in before fielding these complaints.

[mqt]

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I enjoy that OP specified that the 2K team must not have played basketball either, as if playing basketball qualifies you to know how high Pierre Jackson can jump relative to other NBA players.

[jfsolo]

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He literally tore his achillies.

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Here he is post achillies, so no excuses on this one.

[Real2KInsider]

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the problem with drpm is that it's affected by your teammates
redick/crawford barnes and griffin are all average to below average defenders
even if dont think cp3 is as good as the media portrays
hes still one of the best defenders at his position
going by drpm curry is like a top 10 defender in the league lol

DRPM is not affected by teammates.

Going by DRPM Curry is good for a PG but is nowhere close to being as valuable as a center.

Paul barely has a positive DRPM while Crawford was the league's worst SG iirc. Your assessment doesn't jive with the actual data. Ironically enough it's enforcing your perceptions.

[BluFu]

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Also, the 06-07 Cavs are rated higher overall than the 12-13 Heat...GTFO with that garbage.

Not sure how those ratings are calculated, but they mean literally nothing.

[2_headedmonster]

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Come on. Unless a player shreds their knee or Achilles, hops are directly translatable to any level. The game is a masterpiece, but it's ok to admit when something gets completely flubbed.

not really. I mean technically you dont jump lower when you go to a level with better athletes, but if among those better athletes you have a harder time getting a clean gather and better chance of getting blocked then you dunk less, and statistically it would appear as if you loss some dunking ability.

[Real2KInsider]

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I think they need to hire a f nba scout to do their ratings, that and ditch the constant rating updates. It's a stupid marketing gimmick that isn't good nor accurate and is impossible to keep up with all the updates throughout the seasons.

1. It's definitely not impossible. I do it every year.

2. The game is not complex enough to require a scout. An understanding of stats and how players produce statistics is significantly more important because thats how "simulation" gets its results.

3. Do you know any scouts that understand video games at a high level? This is a video game, not real life. 2K is basketball at a very simple level. Stauffer worked with Scott and Czar and molded rating scales (like speed) to their needs. A real life scout who is worthless on the sticks is not an asset.

4. What NBA scout is gonna have time to take away from his actual job (making significant money to travel and watch numerous players) to work in-house for 2K? Do you have any concept of how many hours a scout puts in and how many hours a video game developer puts in?

5. The Euroleague rosters are outsourced by 2K and I think most consider them embarrassing from an accuracy standpoint. An in-house editor isn't the problem.

[JazzMan]

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The Jazz are the 26th best team in the league, according to 2k. But whatever.