Some of these ratings prove that the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

[Real2KInsider]

Re: Some of these ratings make it seem like the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

The Jazz are the 26th best team in the league, according to 2k. But whatever.

The amount of misinformation that gets spread in these topics is stupefying.

EAST
90 Cavs
87 Hawks
84 Wizards
83 Heat
83 Bulls
82 Pacers
81 Bucks
81 Raptors
80 Celtics
78 Pistons
78 Magic
77 Nets
75 Knicks
74 Hornets
69 Sixers

WEST
92 Warriors
91 Spurs
90 Rockets
89 Clippers
87 Thunder
87 Grizzlies
85 Pelicans
81 Suns
80 Jazz
80 Kings
79 Mavericks
77 Wolves
77 Blazers
75 Lakers
73 Nuggets

[JazzMan]

Re: Some of these ratings make it seem like the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

The amount of misinformation that gets spread in these topics is stupefying.

EAST
90 Cavs
87 Hawks
84 Wizards
83 Heat
83 Bulls
82 Pacers
81 Bucks
81 Raptors
80 Celtics
78 Pistons
78 Magic
77 Nets
75 Knicks
74 Hornets
69 Sixers

WEST
92 Warriors
91 Spurs
90 Rockets
89 Clippers
87 Thunder
87 Grizzlies
85 Pelicans
81 Suns
80 Jazz
80 Kings
79 Mavericks
77 Wolves
77 Blazers
75 Lakers
73 Nuggets

My bad, must not have checked it. I just remember going in quick game and seeing they were 26th overall. Must have been before the update.

[timsmooth503pa]

Re: Some of these ratings prove that the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

I love the game overall but the ratings need a fine tune but all it does is start somebody else complaining if you abroad to put in the work do your own or just use what the game does and I see people say you can't keep the game updated you can I've been updating rosters for years you just gotta have a set time to do everybody not just update a player because he had a good game or a bad shooting night my rosters update monthly and I do every player and use every stat from hook shot to a fade away and people still say is not real it's all in your opinion we all think our work is the best

[timsmooth503pa]

Re: Some of these ratings make it seem like the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

My bad, must not have checked it. I just remember going in quick game and seeing they were 26th overall. Must have been before the update.

Those overall ratings are rotation based mixed with ratings you change any lineup the ratings changes trust me

[mvspree8]

Re: Some of these ratings prove that the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

Kobe with a 97 shot IQ rating lolol

[Real2KInsider]

Re: Some of these ratings make it seem like the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

You have to remember that this year's rating system is different from all the past 2ks. They are meant to stack up current players with "The NBA best in history." Hence the Dennis Rodman references about his 99 rebound rating.

I think what they REALLY meant by "Hall of Fame" system was that Classic players would be stupid overrated (per usual).

I've had discussions w/ Czar and Scott over the years about high attributes causing game-breaking cheese. From what I understand, via the interviews and blogs they released, they had Stauffer scale back a handful of attributes to improve the gameplay balance. Marketing had to spin it somehow because the average fan isn't smart enough to realize 400 players have a different attribute within a scale, most will simply look at their favorite player and be like "oh Chris Paul has 79 Speed this is dumb".

[Real2KInsider]

Re: Some of these ratings make it seem like the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

My bad, must not have checked it. I just remember going in quick game and seeing they were 26th overall. Must have been before the update.

You likely looked at "offense" rather than "overall", which is probably common given the small print.

[JazzMan]

Re: Some of these ratings make it seem like the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

You looked at "offense" rather than "overall".

No, I remember what I saw. I saw 20s across the board the very first game I played in quick game.

[yonly1ME]

Re: Some of these ratings prove that the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

I believe Melo has an 80 in speed lololo

Dwight Howard has 80 speed also.

[dxyyz1]

Re: Some of these ratings prove that the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

1. It's definitely not impossible. I do it every year.

2. The game is not complex enough to require a scout. An understanding of stats and how players produce statistics is significantly more important because thats how "simulation" gets its results.

3. Do you know any scouts that understand video games at a high level? This is a video game, not real life. 2K is basketball at a very simple level. Stauffer worked with Scott and Czar and molded rating scales (like speed) to their needs. A real life scout who is worthless on the sticks is not an asset.

4. What NBA scout is gonna have time to take away from his actual job (making significant money to travel and watch numerous players) to work in-house for 2K? Do you have any concept of how many hours a scout puts in and how many hours a video game developer puts in?

5. The Euroleague rosters are outsourced by 2K and I think most consider them embarrassing from an accuracy standpoint. An in-house editor isn't the problem.

Why isnt the game complex enough for a scout lol, without players having the correct attribute ratings you will never get the correct "simulation stats. NBA scouts dont need to understand video games at a high level they could just give 2k the grades they have on players abilities and 2k can adjust them to the rating scale. A scout shouldn't have to take any time out to go to 2k for anything. Madden ratings should probably switch in this direction as well players ratings getting boosted or dropped every week just because they were rated wrong to begin with. I personally think that 2k should change the OVR system every postion should have different play styles and depending on what play style they have different attributes will affect the OVR rating differently. This way you wont for example have to raise Nash's on ball defensive rating to get his OVR where you want it because for a Pass First PG defensive attributes would weigh less heavily and his offensive ones would weigh more aligning his OVR to where 2k want it to be.

[J_Posse]

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Well Pierre Jackson did THIS in the D-League All Star game as well

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXtXqhLX4Xk

That was before he tore his achilles tendon, but apparently he still has hops so my point is moot.

LOL

from Spurs Nation/Bills Backer HQ

[Real2KInsider]

Re: Some of these ratings prove that the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

Dwight Howard has 80 speed also.

Speed ratings were adjusted last season when Draft Combine results were implemented a few months into release. The issue with the data for a player like Howard is his body/health is much different now than it was when he was coming out of high school 10 years ago.

I don't think Stauffer is a dumb guy and if you asked him he'd probably tell you Howard isn't that fast. From what I have observed over the years it seems there are many attribute oversights in the roster because 2K as a company forces a lot of the editing process to be streamlined; a more hands-on approach in certain areas would be much more beneficial.

At the end of the day the higher-ups at 2K don't give a damn about what prime Steve Nash's On-Ball defense rating is. They probably DO care about his OVR rating though, because that's what Joe Fan (90% of the customer base) is going to see.

I recently told a co-worker I write, podcast, roster edit, etc on 2K. I was explaining to him what was changing with the gameplay mechanics this year and he looked at me with a deer in the headlights look. I probably gave him the same look when he said he mostly plays blacktop and doesn't really get into 5v5. This is who 2K is selling the game to.

[nddot]

Re: Some of these ratings prove that the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

Ever since i registered to this board, ive seen a lot of people going out of their way to defend 2k but the whole "ratings are subjective" might be the WOAT of all of them...i mean steve nash being a great defender rating wise ? Where ? When ? How ?
And some of these ratings are even considering the fact that they implemented a brand new rating system.

I dont judge y all, this is just a simple observation but damn lol.

2k16 just need some minor tweaks and it will probaby the best sports game ever.

[eltyboogie]

Re: Some of these ratings make it seem like the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

You have to remember that this year's rating system is different from all the past 2ks. They are meant to stack up current players with "The NBA best in history." Hence the Dennis Rodman references about his 99 rebound rating.

Also showing Jackson's college footage for NBA ratings doesn't make much sense.

Nash rating doesn't make much sense either way though.

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[eltyboogie]

Re: Some of these ratings prove that the 2k team doesn't watch/play basketball

DRPM is not affected by teammates.

Going by DRPM Curry is good for a PG but is nowhere close to being as valuable as a center.

Paul barely has a positive DRPM while Crawford was the league's worst SG iirc. Your assessment doesn't jive with the actual data. Ironically enough it's enforcing your perceptions.

by reading the description for the stat it is clearly affected by teammates
no need to be condescending
if you were as smart as you think you are you would be working for 2k instead of crying about ratings all the time up here 😂