SMH missing WIDE OPEN shots with shooters again

[Kurupt_XxX]

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the game plays perfect. no more zig zagging in stage

[takki]

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This is the best shooting has ever been in a 2k game. Definitely don't change it, at least for now. The 3pt percentage, at least on Superstar/Sim, is perfect.

[Sundown]

SMH missing WIDE OPEN shots with shooters again

A lot of you offline players are not playing the game on HOF or SIM so u dont understand the frustrations. I have the shot feedback on so I see the shot quality. WIDE OPEN shots, B- B C C-, slight late, slight early, missing with great shooters. Even FTs, great shooters missing a lot of FTs on slightly early or late. I don't want want to make every wide open shot thats the mistake u guys are assuming. But can i at least get a A or A- quality when i shoot wide open with a shooter? that would lead to more consistent shooting open

There's your problem. Or at least the beginning of your problems.

Don't play HOF.

It's balanced towards difficulty more than realism. Also you have this game less than a week. Why are you playing HOF in a franchise where HOF has traditionally been the cheese mode for years? All-Star is already hard enough this year.

[Hellquist]

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I shouldn't be playing on the weekdays but man, I am shooting much better. I don't know if it's the shot meter off (feedback only) or I am just feeling it. I am shooting 42-45% from 3 now opposed to 22-29% lol. Catch and shoot are almost automatic for me. Those are better than getting great looks. I guess it's patience but I shoot much better with the shot meter off.

No more complaints from my side. This is the best basketball game ever made The shooting was my only gripe. This is the most complete game I have ever seen. I have never been obsessed with playing a basketball game in my life. It's an addiction I need to stop because I try to play on the weekends to relax not on weekdays when I have a million things to do.

P.S. AI still makes 99% of their wide open shots

[Roger_Black]

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You honestly can't be comparing Jordan, Bird and Steph Curry to the rest of the NBA in regards to shooting contested shots. Or even shooting % in general. Are you?

If Jae Crowder is guarded by 2 people and releases it "perfect", do you really think he's going to make as many shots as Jordan or Bird if they were being guarded by 2 people?

If Efron Payton is wide open at the 3 point line and releases a "perfect" shot, do you think he's going to make as many shots as Steph Curry if he releases a "perfect" shot?

Shooting in a video game is about 1,000,000 times easier than shooting in real life. All you're doing is timing a meter by holding down a button until it says to let go of it. If the game allowed everyone to just make everything if their timing was perfect, then everyone would be shooting 95% from the field every game. Nobody wants that, do they?

They shouldn't, because what's the fun in that? 2k has a pretty great system that takes into account many things; including the timing from the user, the shot selection and the ratings of the player. And it works pretty darn good if you ask me.

It's the instant gratification factor. Things don't work this year like they did last year so it must be broken. People can't do exactly what worked last year so it needs to be patched. Nobody wants to put any real effort into attempting to try a new way so they just want it fixed. On day 1/hour 1 people were complaining that the passing system was awful and that it needed to be patched. True, there are some obvious things that need to be fixed/patched, mostly visual things and some warping, but shooting isn't one of them.

Ummm... You are comparing NBA players.... to each other.
Meanwhile, I'm comparing NBA players... to 'humans' playing a video game.

There's a difference.

Sure, Jordan and Bird and Curry 'shoot better' than the entire rest of the league.
I agree.... But that's not my argument. That's yours.

My argument is more like.... "should Steph Curry hit ALOT MORE contested 3-pointers (and/or 'circus shot' 3-pointers).... in a video game... than a HUMAN player who is shooting wide-open 'midrange' jumpers from just 12-17 feet from the basket??"

Absolutely not.

(keywords:'in a video game')

Curry shouldn't hit more deep 3's with defenders running at him.... than I should be able to hit wide open 'elbow jumpers'. Just my opinion.

Nobody's asking to be allowed to 'make every shot'. (Especially not me)

Some folks just want to hit 'sensible shots'... that are highly 'makeable'...with some consistency. (Not circus shots, or contested shots.)

Plus, I'm only talking about Pro-level difficulty. In MyCareer mode.
Not All-Star, or Superstar-level.

And I'm not even talking about shooting 3-pointers.
I'm not concerned with that because 3-pointers SHOULD be hard to make, imo.

(Because usually, I only attempt like 3-5 '3-pointers' per game or so, at most... However, I do shoot quite ALOT of close/midrange jumpers.... after the ball has been swung around and I'm left WIDE OPEN... and I've noticed that unless i have a 'perfect release'... shots are 'rimming out' far too often.)

If I'm only 12 feet from the basket... and the shot meter is at 97%, or even 98%...(With zero defenders nearby).... it's ends up as a 'miss' that bounces out the basket, more often than not.

Last year... it was the constant 'missed layups' from wide-open CPU teammates in MyCareer mode that was a big issue.

But this year... seems the big issue (so far) is wide-open 'missed jumpers' (from midrange) by human players in MyCareer mode.

[Hellquist]

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There's your problem. Or at least the beginning of your problems.

Don't play HOF.

It's balanced towards difficulty more than realism. Also you have this game less than a week. Why are you playing HOF in a franchise where HOF has traditionally been the cheese mode for years? All-Star is already hard enough this year.

All Star is extremely hard but I am already playing on Superstar and I have had the game since Friday afternoon. It's the perfect balance. I am still shooting efficient but not like I want of course. My percentages have always been 50+ field goal and my 3s have been 47-49%. My 3s are getting there, slowly but surely. My goal was to play on Superstar with NBA 2K16 because I played on All Star in previous ones. I am loving Superstar and I will not change the difficulty. I am winning a lot of games but still lose but they are close losses. No more being blown out by 40.

What I do is play a lot of offline exhibition games until February and then I do MyLeague because I want the rosters to be up to date. This year since we have so many modes, I will play most of them for once. I am looking forward to playing random people online soon.

[MeloNYK7]

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Wide open early release miss..Wide open late release miss.. Wide open A quality miss.. Wide open B quality miss..

Really what's happened to rewarding people who move the ball to get an open look? The old shooting system when green wasn't an automatic make at least gave u a chance to shoot consistently wide open unless like this meter system.

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So we're still at the point where we have to explain that players in real life miss tons of open shots ? Okay.

This is the exact kind of thread that got yall Patch 4 and yall still want that back?

No Thanks

[Goffs]

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Didn't OG say that they can tweak online and offline separately?

[2_headedmonster]

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I have gotten substantially better at shooting since release. Just played on SS with the spurs and kawhi and L.a were KILLING on jumpers.

I really think people overestimate how good they are or underestimate the learning curve and violently knee jerk....

[manu1433]

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People keep saying the game is balanced when it clearly isn't.

I made another thread in which this was brought up as well.When you are using shot stick timing, it is like 3's are set to "real FG %" while midrange is set to "Shot stick timing"

you can consistently get perfect mid range releases basically at will if you are open....if you are open from 3 you get them basically never

it just doesn't make sense at all

if you are going to make it impossible to get greens from 3.....make them hard as f*** from midrange as well

Open 3's go in less than mid range jumpers, but it isn't a drastic difference. That's why open 3's are more efficient IRL -.-

No greens on 3's were 2k's way to stopping cheesing from deep.....but evidently they just left midrange jumpers alone

if you don't believe me, throw it on superstar/sim and go into practice with durant, set it to shot stick....see how many perfects you get from 3 and how you can basically get them at will from midrange

it is glaringly obvious

[The 24th Letter]

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There's a reason people who have abandoned the shot meter have seen their %'s go up...Like last year, too many people are worried about "seeing green". TBH I fell into this a bit when I first got the game trying to adapt....

That said....the shot meter was introduced in the first place to take that randomness away form shooting....and if it isn't giving an accurate reading then I don't really see the purpose...to add to this., the grading system seems wonky as well.. I can understand SOME of the frustration missing some wide open shots.




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[ksuttonjr76]

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People keep saying the game is balanced when it clearly isn't.

I made another thread in which this was brought up as well.When you are using shot stick timing, it is like 3's are set to "real FG %" while midrange is set to "Shot stick timing"

you can consistently get perfect mid range releases basically at will if you are open....if you are open from 3 you get them basically never

it just doesn't make sense at all

if you are going to make it impossible to get greens from 3.....make them hard as f*** from midrange as well

Open 3's go in less than mid range jumpers, but it isn't a drastic difference. That's why open 3's are more efficient IRL -.-

No greens on 3's were 2k's way to stopping cheesing from deep.....but evidently they just left midrange jumpers alone

if you don't believe me, throw it on superstar/sim and go into practice with durant, set it to shot stick....see how many perfects you get from 3 and how you can basically get them at will from midrange

it is glaringly obvious

Perhaps it's 2K Sports way of encouraging players to use mid-range jumpers instead of chucking and relying on 3's? I have noticed the difference in the number of times I get an excellent release between the two shots in practice mode, so I just changed my gameplan to take a 3PT shot when I'm absolutely open or within the flow of the offense. I use the Pacers in online games, and I shoot slightly above or below 39% minus the games where I fell in love with the 3PT shot.

[stillfeelme]

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People keep saying the game is balanced when it clearly isn't.

I made another thread in which this was brought up as well.When you are using shot stick timing, it is like 3's are set to "real FG %" while midrange is set to "Shot stick timing"

you can consistently get perfect mid range releases basically at will if you are open....if you are open from 3 you get them basically never

it just doesn't make sense at all

if you are going to make it impossible to get greens from 3.....make them hard as f*** from midrange as well

Open 3's go in less than mid range jumpers, but it isn't a drastic difference. That's why open 3's are more efficient IRL -.-

No greens on 3's were 2k's way to stopping cheesing from deep.....but evidently they just left midrange jumpers alone

if you don't believe me, throw it on superstar/sim and go into practice with durant, set it to shot stick....see how many perfects you get from 3 and how you can basically get them at will from midrange

it is glaringly obvious

Have to agree with some of this I have been playing a bunch of Wizards games on SS sim and I couldn't get Beal going at all multiple times. I am like what is up with Beal could not get him going in multiple games. So I went in practice and practiced put up a bunch of shots with Beal was off more than on from 3. I have his release down but he just doesn't hit a good amount from three. Green releases from mid range no green perfects from 3 on the white line almost every time. I could not get a green release with him from three. I purposely shot at his hot spots probably took about 40 shots or so. Overall I can shoot better with Beal at midrange because he can get excellent releases from midrange but not from 3 and even though his rating at midrange is not even that good.


Just so that people know Beal shot 37% from 16-23 ft, and 37% from 10-15ft which is not very good but from 3pt range he was 40% which is very good. His 3pt rating is an 86 again very good. He doesn't have a hard release at all either. I also practiced with Dudley also rated 86 and I was clanking much more with him from 3.

In this game it is hard to get open shots even off plays the way the CPU comes off screens to contest.



Bradley Beal shot chart.

I would not say they set it to real fg% for 3pt. It is like it is capped like 3pt rating to be like 10% less. Something is wrong with the threes. Again I play with shot timing.

[MeloNYK7]

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We play HOF in our league. I can't even shoot consistently in practice with good shooters. Early release miss. Late release miss. You know Stephen Curry was rumored to hit 70 threes in a row in practice? I can barely even hit 2 in a row wide open in practice