Point of Making an SG

[LO6IX]

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If I'm not mistaken if you go 6'4 SG balance you can get close to that but I'll check the cap when I get home . That's pretty much a perfect player

The attributes I posted wouldn't make my player unstoppable and are not perfect. Keep in mind that he's at a normal height.

[Fista Roboto]

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If you're just interested in having the player with the highest attributes then the its the PG > SG. There are a bunch of questionable stat limits at every position and I feel SG cops it a little bit more then the others.

The elite level SG's like Harden/Wade/Kobe all play a lot like point guards and you can sort of duplicate that style, just not with the specific high ratings. You'd play as a SG though for the slight stylistic differences between the positions.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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So am I wrong for wanting a SG with
90 layup
83 Standing and moving three
90 Standing and moving mid range
85 Driving dunk
80 vertical
87 speed and acceleration
85 ball control
77 pass accuracy
82 Steal, pick and roll and on ball defense IQ, etc
60 block
82 lateral quickness

6'5, 6'6 Offensive superstar, decent defender.

Just checked the caps for 6'5 balance you can get
85 standing /driving layup
82 standing /moving Midrange
80 standing /moving three
87 driving dunk
88 Vertical
80 speed
88 acceleration
75 ball control
90 passing vision/ accuracy
80 lateral quickness
88 steal
94 on ball def , IQ etc...
74 block

That's very close and not to bad actually ...

[Taer]

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It really seems people are fixated on the ratings numbers instead of what they can actually do in-game. Is this a "my rating is higher than yours" type of epeen thing, because that is what it seems to be to me; especially in online situations.

[LO6IX]

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Just checked the caps for 6'5 balance you can get
85 standing /driving layup
82 standing /moving Midrange
80 standing /moving three
87 driving dunk
88 Vertical
80 speed
88 acceleration
75 ball control
90 passing vision/ accuracy
80 lateral quickness
88 steal
94 on ball def , IQ etc...
74 block

That's very close and not to bad actually ...

Still doesn't have the speed or ball control I want.

I created a player with the attributes I posted and made everything else mediocre then put him in MyGM just to search for similar SGs.
Only 89 overall and he's not even close to perfect. Putting his draw foul rate up to 90 is what got him over an 87 overall.


When I lowered my standards to search for shooting guards similar to where mine is currently and more names starting popping up.



I didn't put 50-100k vc into attributes to be a slightly better version of JR Smith. Attributes do matter as I stated before. Kobe at 37 feels more athletic than my player does. When I put him in Blacktop with players he's supposed to be better than, he feels slower and his dribbles feel worse.

[HowDareI]

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It really seems people are fixated on the ratings numbers instead of what they can actually do in-game. Is this a "my rating is higher than yours" type of epeen thing, because that is what it seems to be to me; especially in online situations.

It's starting to get annoying if Ima be honest because what's gonna happen is 2K's gonna start seeing all these people moaning that they can't shoot or score or play defense and start patching things to make offense easy....again.

We get that some people only play offline but even then the game is more balanced the way it is now compared to how it used to be. Majority of people who play My Career (a lot) are doing it to get their ratings up and get their badges to play online. I mean at least the vocal majority on social media are playing them modes and that's the feedback 2K is going off of.

Do people who complain a lot really know about basketball?....My shooting guard plays a lot bigger than a point. And quicker than a 3.
I'll take a point into the post and use my height and better moves to hit a shot from about 15 or even bully him into the paint.
If I'm against a small forward I'll take him off the dribble up top and use my speed and finishing to get around him.

Defensively I can lock up a 1, 2, or 3 because of versatility (speed, quickness, strength).

So what's the point of making a shooting guard? I'm 6'7 and can score inside or outside. Can defend 3 positions easily and even some faceup 4's. I can rebound better than a point and am stronger so I can post them up if I'm in at point. I'm a much better shooter and ballhandler than a 3 and a lot faster..

Actually play the game and stop looking at numbers. I knew they didn't matter when I was a 60 ovr (along with my squad in park) and we were beating 88 maxed players easily. IQ is key in this game and if you use your head it won't matter about your ratings if you use your strength right.

[FR3SH1]

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PG vs SG speed should not be as dramatic as it is in this game. Try guarding a fast PG with a SG?

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[I_am_legend417]

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It's starting to get annoying if Ima be honest because what's gonna happen is 2K's gonna start seeing all these people moaning that they can't shoot or score or play defense and start patching things to make offense easy....again.

We get that some people only play offline but even then the game is more balanced the way it is now compared to how it used to be. Majority of people who play My Career (a lot) are doing it to get their ratings up and get their badges to play online. I mean at least the vocal majority on social media are playing them modes and that's the feedback 2K is going off of.

Do people who complain a lot really know about basketball?....My shooting guard plays a lot bigger than a point. And quicker than a 3.
I'll take a point into the post and use my height and better moves to hit a shot from about 15 or even bully him into the paint.
If I'm against a small forward I'll take him off the dribble up top and use my speed and finishing to get around him.

Defensively I can lock up a 1, 2, or 3 because of versatility (speed, quickness, strength).

So what's the point of making a shooting guard? I'm 6'7 and can score inside or outside. Can defend 3 positions easily and even some faceup 4's. I can rebound better than a point and am stronger so I can post them up if I'm in at point. I'm a much better shooter and ballhandler than a 3 and a lot faster..

Actually play the game and stop looking at numbers. I knew they didn't matter when I was a 60 ovr (along with my squad in park) and we were beating 88 maxed players easily. IQ is key in this game and if you use your head it won't matter about your ratings if you use your strength right.

OMG do any of y'all read the first Post? Seriously? My main issue is the Spped of a player because the Elites have ridiculous speed. I played against John wall and there was a SIGNIFICANT difference in speed, like a middle schooler trying to race unsain bolt.

James Hardens defense in a 94 average and his speed is at 88 or 86.

That's a big difference.

I don't care to max out every stat, I didn't want to max out shooting.

I played small forward in high school, I play the game much like I play in real life. Problem is I can't do what I want in game. The. Goal isn't to be perfect it's to be able to replicate a great player.

The stat differences are huge from a 6'6' outside PG to a 6'6' balanced SG. And not only that They start with On court coach.

My point was if you start with OCC and you don't have to max your shooting to get it, you can distribute your attribute grades better.

Also the attribute buckets are annoying. I don't want an 90 dunk but I do want an 85 speed. Speed and quickness shouldn't be grouped with dunking, because you end up with 5'7" pgs that can dunk like lebron.

For those who say the caps make it more diverse I say no, because everyone will dump VC into shooting and athleticism first.

Dump the attribute buckets and make it all variable.

If we have a certain amount that we can put in our attributes and we upgrade individual stats then we will have a true variety of players.

No two players will be exactly alike and it'll end be a better game.

[HowDareI]

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OMG do any of y'all read the first Post? Seriously?

I can say the same thing. Did you even read my post?

I didn't even reply to you first off. I was replying to someone else talking about something else.

It's about balance: PG's=fastest. Then SG's are slower, but faster than SF's. Followed by PF's and C's being the slowest with the biggest of the groups getting the lowest speed.

I said they balanced it for online, because majority of MyCareer players ultimately are looking to take their guys online. 2K has the advanced statistics on that, not me. They know who's playing what and are basing modes off of the information they have.

If we make SG's faster, then we got people complaining to make SF's faster....PF's faster....C's faster....etc. You get the point?...No?....

Then SG's max will be a 90. SF's 85. PF's/C's 80. Oh look, we're back to 2K15 where everyone's fast.

You can take this next bit however you want, it don't matter to me...

If SG is too hard of a position for you? (I use you as a broad term, here) Then be one of "them guys" that makes a 6'7 point guard and doesn't pass. There ya go! A (fake) shooting guard for your cheesiest dreams!

Like people been saying: This game's a lot harder. You gotta know basketball to be successful. All the people I've seen complaining to me just look like guys who don't understand the game fully. You can watch a full 82 game season of basketball and still not know what basketball truly is. I know the game, and the videogame. I'm having fun and success at it because I understand it.

So when I keep seeing people complain about little crap like numbers, it's annoying because 2K's gonna see all that and think they need to fix it and BAM we got 2K15 again where everyone is fast, can dribble, and shoot.

Just watched the preseason tonight. There's a HUGE difference in shooting guard's speed compared to the point. And those guys are like an inch off eachother. The game isn't too far-fetched in replicating that so I don't see all this complaining in here making sense to me.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Still doesn't have the speed or ball control I want.

I created a player with the attributes I posted and made everything else mediocre then put him in MyGM just to search for similar SGs.
Only 89 overall and he's not even close to perfect. Putting his draw foul rate up to 90 is what got him over an 87 overall.


When I lowered my standards to search for shooting guards similar to where mine is currently and more names starting popping up.



I didn't put 50-100k vc into attributes to be a slightly better version of JR Smith. Attributes do matter as I stated before. Kobe at 37 feels more athletic than my player does. When I put him in Blacktop with players he's supposed to be better than, he feels slower and his dribbles feel worse.

Man you're really tripping over a few points when I just gave you a run down of how to make the player you wanted ? If the game just gave you grades instead of number ratings you wouldn't even know the difference . That build can be very effective in doing what you want. I think you guys don't want a solution y'all just wanna complain .

To the OP did you read any of my posts ? I've answered why make a SG over a PG

[I_am_legend417]

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Okay.

Simply put, I don't think on court coach should be tied to Shooting. And I hate the attribute groups. I want a fast player I could care less about dunking.

I want someone great from the midrange and inside and decent from the 3.

I want to attempt less dunks and attempt more layups. I'll take Variable caps or even just we can upgrade the attributes we just have a certain number of upgrades and we have to create the player we want.

I hate the grouped attributes because you get 5'7" PGs that can dunk like Jordan.

[YaBoial]

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To be honest I have a pf. Pg and SG but my SG is by far my favor. I modeled his gm after brad beal n I flow with any offense

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[hanzsomehanz]

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2k is building park with d league type personalities.

Park was designed to be a bit of a fantasy experience with and 1 ballers , hence Ballers, Flyers, RoughRiders. And all three parks offer unique park boosts to their respective ballers.

It's okay ^ some just love the mildness and are not as competent when things heat up. I personally play on 85 game speed regardless of difficulty and appreciate the up tempo theatrical type game that's filled with lots of flare and bravado.

It's a lot of fear and apprehension I sense. The reality is:
The people fund the game and the people will get their desired product in the end, whatever that may be.

Fwiw, nobody in here advocated for 99 demigods but still the fear mongering is alive and strong and clouds the perceptions of so many that read the complaint posts in here.



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[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Also Op the difference in speed and ball handling between a PG and SG of the same height/scoring style is only 2 points .

Which the SG makes up for in better shooting and dunking ability.

[YaBoial]

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Honestly the difference in making a SG/pg not a big deal. I feel as though some ppl are complaining because of the difference in high attributes which in reality shouldn't make a difference if u are taking smart shots n making the right play. I have a 70 ovr SG and get avg 20 every gm in pro-am just by playing basketball the right way. It seems some ofbubare searching for high ratings to bail u out of making bad plays

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