So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCareer

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  • ATLBrayden
    All-Pro
    • Oct 2012
    • 747

    #106
    Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

    Originally posted by bo.jangles344
    Once again, aside from speed you can essentially replicate each player almost to the T as far as playstyle maybe not OVR or even by EXACT attributes. But if you put these player combos about to detail against each of these players in blacktop i can get you pretty darn close, and it's actually pretty easy.

    Keep in mind youre starting as a ROOKIE so we'll try and make ROOKIE versions of these stars.


    Young kobe is too easy. 6'6 sg, maybe play with weight a bit to see if you can't crank out a couple more speed points, but inside scorer def. About 16 or 17 into athlete, max shooter, about 16 in defense for minimum required for lockdown, high inside scorer with the sacrifice coming on play making so you still have some rounding of your game out though your first few seasons. Remember, as a rookie kobe didn't play much because they called him "showboat". Good handles, unwilling passer.

    Melo,

    Definitely inside scorer again, high inside scoring, maybe 16 or 17, medium athlete, decent passing, max shooting, decent rebounding, almost nothing on defense.

    Wilkins, see kobe almost.



    It's too easy to match someone's playstyle. Will you match them attribute for attribute? Maybe not but it'll be close.


    Let's just get young lebron out of the way as well.

    Balanced SF with max athlete, 16 on defense, decent rebounding, high inside scoring and whatever else on play making.

    Too easy.
    Nobody is saying you can't replicate the playstyle but it's impossible to even get close attribute wise. Sure I can make a 6'6 SG inside scorer and have 90 something dunk like Kobe, but then I'll have the range of Shaquille O'Neal. Also there's no point in making "rookie" versions of the stars because the caps don't increase as you get older. I'm in my 4th season and everything is the same.

    I'm not saying let me have 99dunk and 99 3pt, but at least let me specialize in what I want to do. Maybe I want to be elite in the mid range, elite at dunking, elite athlete, but bad in the post, mediocre with passing, mediocre with defense, etc. These caps take away from fun for the offline gamer (although I play online a lot so the caps help, even though I find some to be too strict) and from people who want to be true specialists, not just inside/balanced/outside.

    2K should separate MyCareer and MyPark caps. Let offline guys go freakin' nuts with their players, let them get all 99s if they want, but as soon as they step into the park enable hard caps (not as strict as the current ones, but not too lenient, EX: not 2K15) that prevent gods just walking around in the park. 2K should've also known better than to hype your player up as a high school super star, a lock for the number one pick who's gonna storm the league and get endorsement after endorsement, a star with the best agent in the business, then have you start out as 55 overall (which would be considered a total bust) and grind to be average.
    Last edited by ATLBrayden; 10-16-2015, 04:42 PM.
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    • dnyce87
      Pro
      • Sep 2015
      • 531

      #107
      Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

      Originally posted by ATLBrayden
      Nobody is saying you can't replicate the playstyle but it's impossible to even get close attribute wise. Sure I can make an 6'6 SG inside scorer and have 90 something dunk like Kobe, but then I'll have the range of Shaquille O'Neal. Also there's no point in making "rookie" versions of the stars because the caps don't increase as you get older. I'm in my 4th season and everything is the same.

      I'm not saying let me have 99dunk and 99 3pt, but at least let me specialize in what I want to do. Maybe I want to be elite in the mid range, elite at dunking, elite athlete, but bad in the post, mediocre with passing, mediocre with defense, etc. These caps take away from fun for the offline gamer (although I play online a lot so the caps help, even though I find some to be too strict) and from people who want to be true specialists, not just inside/balanced/outside.

      2K should separate MyCareer and MyPark caps. Let offline guys go freakin' nuts with their players, let them get all 99s if they want, but as soon as they step into the park enable hard caps (not as strict as the current ones, but not too lenient, EX: not 2K15) that prevent gods just walking around in the park. 2K should've also known better than to hype your player up as a high school super star, a lock for the number one pick who's gonna storm the league and get endorsement after endorsement, a star with the best agent in the business, then have you start out as 55 overall (which would be considered a total bust) and grind to be average.
      Time n time again I've mentioned to bring back the play styles from previous 2ks

      Def specialist
      3 point specialist
      Point forward/pass first
      Slasher
      Scorer
      All-around (non-cheesy lol)

      Inside, outside, and balanced are vague, but at least a start in the right direction. Individualize stats so user needs more VC to make the type of player u want and they can still cap out the stats to make it balanced. U wanna be improve your weaker attributes? Then make it cost more VC to a point that u will have to GRIND or simply pay and increase 2k's business. Also, I agree with what every other post and thread has said lol: Separate online from offline and both sides are happy.

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      • Rockie_Fresh88
        Lockdown Defender
        • Oct 2011
        • 9621

        #108
        Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

        I think live has that idea . If you upgrade other attributes that are your weakness it costs more skill points . I guess that's realistic because it takes more practice . We all know 2k introduces an idea then improves on it the next year . Same thing for the caps .

        I just hope it never gets cheesy again. I'm actually enjoying building unique players within the confounds of the Caps. Might make a Kevin Love (T-Wolves) style for a big next.
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        • Professor Of Chaos
          Rookie
          • Aug 2014
          • 169

          #109
          Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

          That's not how Live worked when I played it... Your Key Skills cost the most.
          Last edited by Professor Of Chaos; 10-16-2015, 06:55 PM.

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          • bo.jangles344
            Banned
            • Jun 2013
            • 1007

            #110
            Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

            So if you make an inside 6'6 sg and max athlete your saying you still can't play like young kobe, wtf? His shot should never have been anything but the high 70s. You guys are such whiners. I have you advice how to do what you're trying to do but turn your nose up over a few stat differences?

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            • KyotoCarl
              MVP
              • Mar 2010
              • 3827

              #111
              Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

              Being great is about playing beyond your rating and stats. You see people averaging 30ppg, 11apg and 6rpg even though there's a cap. That's even better numbers than the player you mentioned put up.
              So, it's definitely possible to make that kind of a players despite a cap.

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              • Rockie_Fresh88
                Lockdown Defender
                • Oct 2011
                • 9621

                #112
                Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

                Originally posted by Professor Of Chaos
                That's not how Live worked when I played it... You Key Skills cost the most.
                Oh my fault lol
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                • mrprice33
                  Just some guy
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 5986

                  #113
                  Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

                  Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                  Oh my fault lol

                  He's wrong. Your key skills are the cheapest ones. Let's say you start as a shooting PG and your 3 point rating is 72 but your dunk rating is as 55. It may cost more to increase your 3 point but that's because you're going from 72 to 73 as opposed to going from 55 to 56.


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                  • mrprice33
                    Just some guy
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 5986

                    #114
                    Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

                    As for MyCareer, it absolutely needs to be rethought and decoupled from the online modes. It's silly to get drafted so high with such a low OVR, and not being able to customize and specialize in certain skills is needlessly limiting. There was a poster above who said something about the game no longer letting you upgrade your player at all once you reach 99 OVR, and I think something like that is a good solution. Also, you should get more VC on the early stage of your aging curve, and you should have to spend VC to preserve skills while you are on the downside of your aging curve. As it stands now, the mode is completely divorced from the actual reality of how an NBA player's skills are grown and represented.


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                    • Professor Of Chaos
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 169

                      #115
                      Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

                      Originally posted by mrprice33
                      He's wrong. Your key skills are the cheapest ones. Let's say you start as a shooting PG and your 3 point rating is 72 but your dunk rating is as 55. It may cost more to increase your 3 point but that's because you're going from 72 to 73 as opposed to going from 55 to 56.


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                      This is a very fragmented argument to have... Your Key Skills are cheap at the onset, but they gradually get very expensive when you're near max. Your NON Key Skills are low, yet already near max, so they are expensive as well.


                      Your Key Skills end up having the highest peak costs.

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                      • mrprice33
                        Just some guy
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 5986

                        #116
                        Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

                        Originally posted by Professor Of Chaos
                        This is a very fragmented argument to have... Your Key Skills are cheap at the onset, but they gradually get very expensive when you're near max. Your NON Key Skills are low, yet already near max, so they are expensive as well.


                        Your Key Skills end up having the highest peak costs.
                        No they don't, for two reasons. 1) Your key skills start higher, so there's less overall expense to get them to the higher levels. Going from 75 to 90 is a lot cheaper overall than going from 55 to 90.

                        2) Even at those higher levels, the key skills cost less comparatively speaking. Going from 89 to 90 at a key skill will cost slightly less than going from 89 to 90 in a non-key skill.

                        I've spoken in-depth with the person who designed the way the skill progression works. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.

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                        • Kobrakai
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 139

                          #117
                          Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

                          Remove the damn "grouped" skill buckets and just let us upgrade individual stats like we could in 2K13 and beforehand FFS, it's really not complicated. That way people who want to be ultra quick small forwards who sacrifice defense but can be a 3 point sniper or stretch 5s who are fast and have deep range but are weak sauce on the boards and various other creative builds could all exist.

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                          • iam31yearsold
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 606

                            #118
                            Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

                            There needs to be a PSA post to let everyone know...

                            MyPark and MyCareer are not ment to be realistic. Park is a casual street ball mode, and MyCareer is a scripted story based mode.

                            The sooner we have people understand this, the sooner they can accept them for what they are.

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                            • mrprice33
                              Just some guy
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 5986

                              #119
                              Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

                              Originally posted by iam31yearsold
                              There needs to be a PSA post to let everyone know...

                              MyPark and MyCareer are not ment to be realistic. Park is a casual street ball mode, and MyCareer is a scripted story based mode.

                              The sooner we have people understand this, the sooner they can accept them for what they are.

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                              Career should absolutely be realistic, especially once you get past year 1. This is a simulation basketball game; the NBA modes should reflect that.


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                              • Fista Roboto
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 6

                                #120
                                Re: So I can't make a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Kevin Durant in MyCa

                                Originally posted by Kobrakai
                                Remove the damn "grouped" skill buckets and just let us upgrade individual stats like we could in 2K13 and beforehand FFS, it's really not complicated. That way people who want to be ultra quick small forwards who sacrifice defense but can be a 3 point sniper or stretch 5s who are fast and have deep range but are weak sauce on the boards and various other creative builds could all exist.

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                                Easy fix. Or maybe blend the old and the new systems together, like say give people 100 skill points to invest in the inside scoring tree and let them choose it however they see fit. Allows you to focus on areas you want and be lacking in others.

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