Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

[Hellquist]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

You're playing on hall of fame. This is what happens on the hall of fame difficulty level.

People on OS have said it, the developers of the game have said the AI gets an unfair advantage on hall of fame.

If this is the mode you play on, adjust sliders or deal with the unfair advantage, because that's what the level was designed to do. If you can't understand that and think the game is broken because of it, there's nothing else to tell you then

The admins of this site need to ban the word broken. It's getting tossed around when talking about EVERYTHING. Now, because the hardest difficulty in the game is actually hard, the game is broken?! Give me a break with this **** it's really getting old


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I am getting tired of that word too and I am also tired of users on HOF complaining lol. Most of these threads are self-explanatory and it's like yep, he's on HOF of course. It's the hardest difficulty for a reason. I don't get why people play on HOF? All Star is the best setting if you want a balance. Superstar has some cheese but good too. HOF difficulty makes no sense to me. I would never play on it. I have nothing to prove to myself or anyone. I do believe what someone else said that HOF players are in it for bragging rights.

[Hellquist]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

This is at least the 3rd or 4th thread I've seen on this forum where ppl complained about shooting, and 3pt. Shooting in general. I agree with the OP. Unlike some have requested, I don't need to see any videos to know it's broken. I already experienced exactly what he's talking about. I play with the Warriors and Curry and Klay misses easy open 3s a little bit to often for my taste. At this point I've come to accept it. 2k can claim sim this and sim that all that want, but IMO this game is not even remotely close to sim basketball. It's a video game and I look at it as such.

This is the 2nd year in the row for Curry for me. I couldn't shoot with him on 2K15 either but I figured it out. Still can't shoot with him on 2K16. Klay is different. I am splashing with him now.

[Black Bruce Wayne]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

Let me post this again. Below is a small/medium sample size of Currys shooting from last year. As you can see Curry had some incredible games and some terrible games.

Curry doesnt make every shot , even if they are wide open. If you pride yourself on being a Operation Sports user then you would have known from the gameplay blogs that they have been working on making the game more realistic, more about actual basketball.

You have to get separation. You have to create space. You have to set your feet. Otherwise expect to miss alot of shots. Making shots in real life requires skill and timing so why not emulate that in the game?

As far as the CPU making shots, on ball defense is your friend.

[BA2929]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

But a lot of the 3s he takes are contested/off the dribble. If he just spots up I'm sure his % is going to be way higher.

Personally, I think the closest thing to an open NBA-game 3pt shot is the 3pt contest and curry went 15-25 there. That's 60%, pretty darn good.

In the final round, he went 20-25. That's 80%, holy ****.

The 3 point contest is in no way, shape or form similar to doing anything on a basketball court during a live game. That's like saying the HR Derby in baseball is the same as seeing live pitching. Everything is working in your favor in the 3pt contest and you stand still for 5 straight shots without moving. It's basically a glorified shoot around.

[DC]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

Yea dude was trippin by posting a damn 3pt shootot

[trandoanhung1991]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

The 3 point contest is in no way, shape or form similar to doing anything on a basketball court during a live game. That's like saying the HR Derby in baseball is the same as seeing live pitching. Everything is working in your favor in the 3pt contest and you stand still for 5 straight shots without moving. It's basically a glorified shoot around.

So you really think Curry, who shoots the 3 way better than Korver IMO, can't make more than 60% of his attempts if he only spots up?


Marco made 12/25, which results in a 3pt% of 48%, slightly higher than his average that year of 44%.


After that he made 14/25, which results in a % of 56%. Again, not such a huge drop off like some people suggested.


Beal made 13/25, resulting in % of 52%. He had around 41% shooting that year from 3.

This is Curry from 2013.

14/25. 56%.

Ryan Anderson from 2013.

14/25. 56%. Compared to his average of around 40% that year.

The trend seems to be that they shoot around 10-15% better compared to their average.

Do you have any proof that it's not similar? Have you tried making 25 NBA 3pt shots in under a minute? Of course the stats will be higher compared to in the NBA, because you have 5 consecutive shots from the same spot, but it's not THAT much higher, it seems.

I should've chosen more sane examples instead of that 1 outlier where Curry got hot and shot the lights out.

[giordun]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

What's your release? I used to use Quick release like everyone else but I switched to Normal release and now I'm making 3s at the rate I should be. Normal is what most players in game have.

[Taer]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

So you really think Curry, who shoots the 3 way better than Korver IMO, can't make more than 60% of his attempts if he only spots up?

A 3-pt contest during all-star week resembles every-day 3pt shooting during the regular season as much as a all-star game resembles an actual game played during the season.

There is a type of pressure involved during the contest but it is not the same and is non-comparable.

You say you should not use outliers ... the entire 3-pt contest is an outlier and any stats derived from it is non-comparable to in-game during the regular season stats.

[giordun]

Re: Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

Also to settle all this non-sense, these stats are actually recorded.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/105846/curry-capitalizes-on-open-shots

Bold strategy leaving him open

Curry made 15 of his 17 uncontested shots in Games 1 and 2. His 17 attempts are the most open looks in the series and more than twice as many as any player on the Rockets had. Jason Terry leads Houston with eight uncontested field goal attempts.

The 2014-15 league MVP is shooting 88 percent on uncontested shots, including 82 percent from beyond the arc, in this series. When contested, his field goal percentage dips to 42 percent, including 18 percent from 3-point range.

Curry is getting open far more often than he did in either of the first two playoff series. Less than 25 percent of his attempts against the Grizzlies were uncontested, and 26 percent were uncontested against the Pelicans. In Games 1 and 2 of the conference finals, 40 percent of his looks have been uncontested.

Small sample size but it's not ridiculous over the course of a few games to be making all those uncontested shots. I have seen NCAA D1 players in practice and the best shooters can make close to 80-90% of their unguarded jump shots.

Also another chart of uncontested field goal percentage.

[Sundown]

Err, is there something wrong with 3pt shooting?

Also to settle all this non-sense, these stats are actually recorded.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/105846/curry-capitalizes-on-open-shots

Small sample size but it's not ridiculous over the course of a few games to be making all those uncontested shots. I have seen NCAA D1 players in practice and the best shooters can make close to 80-90% of their unguarded jump shots.

Also another chart of uncontested field goal percentage.

Small sample size.

Curry then went on to shoot 2-13 in the Cavs series, bricking multiple open shots.

Yes players should be able to get hot and cold. That's what the badges and rhythm system aim to do.

No, they shouldn't have inflated open shot percentages based on impressions, small sample sets, and contests that have nothing to do with the actual game, while ignoring large scale statistical evidence.

Please don't ask for things that break the game like Patch 4, which literally allowed the unrealistic results similar to what some of you guys are asking for.