Shot % Tweaks needed?

[bo.jangles344]

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Just tried to get some video up. Apparently that feature is broken right now for me.

[Caelumfang]

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To be honest with you all online game modes don't have a predefined setting such as HoF, SS, AS, ect. They are all tweaked so your point is invalid and what the hell do you mean deal with it? You deal with it by staying the hell out of this thread. This thread was created for user feedback. IF you have no feedback stay the hell away! Childish *** n*gg*s

And this shows you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. So please, keep quiet.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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An outside scorer in the high 80s or low 90s at lvl 20 can boost to high or mid 90s and pull the most ridiculously contested fading leaners with zero consequence. The 2s on park are where a big screens and a guard spams Jamal Crawford dribble moves and as soon as he gets an inch of space just launches. Doesn't matter whether he's contested because the leaner animations are the only ones you can't alter as a defender. Specifically since most of the time you're trailing trying to catch up.

So i hate that they're automatic and once again these are the only people that constantly give us fits. Anyone who plays us straight up gets worked. These guys are literally the poison of the park since they're tactics are just so OP that everyone wants to do it after getting beat by them.

Haven't played enough park to see all this. Im having trouble forcing misses on them though. I think it's the height and wingspan of my SG . My Big man contests the shot much better .

[hanzsomehanz]

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To Beluba / Mike and to whom else it may concern,

I enjoy this product enough to play it to the end in its current state.

Change what you see fit with Shot percentages but my concern is defense.

There is an excessive amount of sliding on defense and defensive assist strength seems to give no relief with 0 to 100 making maybe a 5% change in Gameplay.

I'm experiencing this as a user and it basically feels like on ball defense for user is at 0, it's that poor.

Can I compete with computer and human still? Certainly but it's a warped experience.

I have defensive anchor and I'm constantly sliding out of position like I'm on skates - the momentum is that exaggerated.

There are a number of defensive animations I no longer access due to whatever fundamental tweaks have been done to pacify the defensive strength on drives and contested shots as well as contact in the post.

My conclusion is that if scoring continues to become more prolific and defensive fundamentals continue to slide: what exactly was the purpose of promoting defense in this year's product?

My defensive badges do not seem to reap me as much success as the offensive abilities in general.

I really not feel comfortable offering input to boost anything related to scoring at this moment until defensive sliding is addressed and transition defense awareness is fundamentally addressed from a core level.

We don't have awareness ratings tied to players anymore but I feel offensive and defensive awareness needs to be dramatically increased for User and Cpu.

At the end of the day: I accept the reality that this product is intended for the masses and not a minority group, the latter group being the one I fall under.

At the end of the day, I understand the reality of this product and who it caters too. Offense is easier to master which in the end helps the majority have fun and have a competitive chance at the same time. Apparently the original defensive environment was too challenging for most and produced severe contractions on the message boards.

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[bls]

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Beluba can you please please please lower contact layups and high arch layups. Curry never misses those high arch layups, its so ridiculous and an eye sore and just shows how no skill is needed with this game. Its laughable at times. I dont understand the fun at a game where you cant be competitive. The Success rate of contact layups and those high floater layups should not be that high.

Just because someone makes a couple in a game doesnt mean it should translate over into the video game and now that player makes it everytime because its said player. Its ridiculous.

[fanwing812]

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Play now online
I think great shoot like curry and klay should able to shoot in 3s in twice or even triple in a row, but now if u shoot one in the second one r 90% guarantee miss

[MadManCometh]

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Beluba can you please please please lower contact layups and high arch layups. Curry never misses those high arch layups, its so ridiculous and an eye sore and just shows how no skill is needed with this game. Its laughable at times. I dont understand the fun at a game where you cant be competitive. The Success rate of contact layups and those high floater layups should not be that high.

Just because someone makes a couple in a game doesnt mean it should translate over into the video game and now that player makes it everytime because its said player. Its ridiculous.

Not true. I play with the warriors and Curry misses them lay ups all the time. So it's definitely not automatic.

[MadManCometh]

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2k is going to mess this game up. You just watch. They are going to listen to u guys talking about tweak this and tweak that but 2k has to understand, that 85% of u guys are extremely inaccurate far as what the game needs. I bet some of u probably leave shooters open, guys hit shots then u come here and talk about "mid shots need to be toned". No it doesnt! Put a hand up! Play defense and make the guy miss, and stop depending on dev's to tone down the game so when u leave open shooters they miss. Lame. Play defense and make guys miss. It's difficult to hit shots with a hand up. Played over 300 games online. And I see most users only play offense, but very bad defense. Leaving shooters open. U cant do that in the NBA.

You'll never see me asking the dev to tone down mids or 3s. If he hit it then I shouldnt have left him open. Their is a saying in real life "hand down, man down". And already in this game guys miss open 3s and 2s just because a defender is 3ft away but no hand up.

My advice to 2k, play ur product online. Don't just listen to ppl here. Play for yourself. Test it out for yourself. A lot of ppl here are casual fans. They never played organized ball, nor do they really know the game of basketball. IRL, u get ur lights shot out when u leave shooters open consistently. U can't just apease fan bases because they are complaining about guys hitting open shots. This not college. It's an NBA representation and U can't leave shooters open.

[derlaid]

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I don't really see actual contested 3s (where you have green defense) going off very often, although sometimes contact layups without a hitch despite a size mismatch as well as good defence. But part of the inside/outside scoring imbalance at the moment is because big guys just get the ball stripped without insanely good ball management, and even then you'll sometimes lose the ball before you can actually input any command.

This means you need to execute much more careful passing to a big guy than a little guy, which means, generally big guys will play further out and smaller guys will generally play further out. So the game gravitates towards outside shooting.

Shots from the post just aren't worth it, since it's very easy to strip the ball from someone in the post, and with the general shift towards small, faster players in MyPark anyone will cover you very quickly and you can't reliably get post shots into the net one-on-one regardless of the space created with a fade away, stepback, or hop. The animations are slow so they're easy to block or just move in and defend. Even up-and-unders are very easy to counter, and you will have the ball stripped from you.

[Freak123]

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At this point, I'd recommend just leaving the shot percentages as is. I think it plays as well as it possibly could right now and any further changes would be a major risk of the great game-play that all of us are currently enjoying right now.

[derlaid]

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At this point, I'd recommend just leaving the shot percentages as is. I think it plays as well as it possibly could right now and any further changes would be a major risk of the great game-play that all of us are currently enjoying right now.

Shot % are already being changed next patch so what you're hoping for isn't going to happen sorry.

[downsouth]

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How much have you guys who haven't had a problem with it been playing? Mostly park where it's bad.. Also what positions have you used? It's mostly when holding a PG/SG that it's a problem.. You're relatively safe if you're holding SF & above..

To me size ups arent that big a deal to guard more than anything else. I play 6'3 PG, 6'6 SG, 6'7 SF, and 7'3 center in park and proam vs all 5 positions.

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[downsouth]

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Thats not to say i would mind toning the sizeups down since i barely use them.

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[MadManCometh]

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At this point, I'd recommend just leaving the shot percentages as is. I think it plays as well as it possibly could right now and any further changes would be a major risk of the great game-play that all of us are currently enjoying right now.

U think this game exhibits great gameplay? I respectfully disagree. U play Online?

So let me run u a few common scenarios:

Ur playing online against someone playing bad defense. He leaves ur shooter open at the top of the key. But instead of Ur shooter getting himself in great postion, he basically takes himself out of the play by "roaming" around 5 ft behind the 3point line. So by the time u pass him the ball he's out of position and by the time u manually get him in positon the defense has recovered. And if the defense dont recovered, because lets say this time hes 3ft behind the line, now ur likely to miss anyway because once u quickly move him up, the game wants to hit u with a "moving shot" penalty. So yes or no, is that "great" gameplay?

It's like he has no self awareness. He doesn't know he's open. On the flip side, I've had shooters at the 3pt line but soon as I pass him the ball he cuts to the paint thus generating a turnover when he was already open. If ur open, why are u cutting to the interior? Why not have a animation where the open player waves his arms as to say, "I'm open" . I've also seen the opposite happens. Guys have a open lane to cut but they just stand there. Again, no self awareness. No, the gameplay isn't great by no means.

[Freak123]

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U think this game exhibits great gameplay? I respectfully disagree. U play Online?

So let me run u a few common scenarios:

Ur playing online against someone playing bad defense. He leaves ur shooter open at the top of the key. But instead of Ur shooter getting himself in great postion, he basically takes himself out of the play by "roaming" around 5 ft behind the 3point line. So by the time u pass him the ball he's out of position and by the time u manually get him in positon the defense has recovered. And if the defense dont recovered, because lets say this time hes 3ft behind the line, now ur like to miss anyway because once u quickly move him up, the game wants to hit u with a "moving shot" penalty. So yes or no, is that "great" gameplay?

It's like he has no self awareness. He doesn't know he's open. On the flip side, I've had shooters at the 3pt line but soon as I pass him the ball he cuts to the paint thus generating a turnover when he was already open. If ur open, why are u cutting to the interior? Why not have a animation where the open player waves his arms as to say, "I'm open" . I've also seen the opposite happens. Guys have a open lane to cut but they just stand there. Again, no self awareness. No, the gameplay isn't great by no means.

Oh, I agree with this. It is frustrating to have shooters improperly space the floor by either being far behind the 3-point line or by making an unintelligent cut to the basket, but I have for the most part adjusted to that and try to play through it. If you keep moving the ball, someone will be spaced correctly and get a good shot. I was referencing game-play in regards to shot percentages though, as I feel that it is as good as I can hope for right now.