7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

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  • downsouth
    Banned
    • Dec 2013
    • 323

    #46
    Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

    Originally posted by E The Rhymer
    I feel ur pain the worse part is when the only time I get the ball is on a offensive board and then they get mad I didn't pass it out even if u made the putback or when my man (usually another guard or even a forward occasionally) will realize that they won't give me the ball no matter how open and then go double team the perimeter so my teammates shoot some dumb*** fadeaway 3 instead of giving me the ball

    I also enjoy laughing at the 7'3 cheeses who think holding screen in the paint does anything and I get all the rebounds with my 7' center due to actually being in a good rebounding position


    Sent from my iPhone with minimal cares for grammar, spelling, and punctuation.
    I usually stand just below the 3pt line on defense and cut back and forth through the paint throwing picks as requested on offense. A lot of guards dont like picks so i respect those wishes.

    Like i said in another post, i never sat under goal holding balls whole game even last year when it cost me rrebounds. Definitely dont this year. Usually keep moving and grinding to keep position. Mostly effective. The #1 thing most centers should focus on in defense is sprinting back.

    You cant base game rules off trash players who dont play right imo though.

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    • The 24th Letter
      ERA
      • Oct 2007
      • 39373

      #47
      Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

      add 3 seconds or don't add it...I don't really see the problem TBH

      I love when all centers do is stand under the rim....makes for an easy guard for my 7'0 center and clogs the paint...

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      • Jrocc23
        MVP
        • May 2010
        • 3207

        #48
        Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

        Originally posted by downsouth
        Play in proam for nba rulex.

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        Why is their a shot clock, loose ball fouls, etc? These NBA rules aren't in Park games I've played.

        I am not asking for full NBA rules. Just a limit on being in the paint. Which would counter big men just sitting in the paint. Doesn't even have to be 3 seconds, could be 6 seconds or whatever but something that would make them leave the paint will only balance out the game even more.
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        • Rockie_Fresh88
          Lockdown Defender
          • Oct 2011
          • 9621

          #49
          Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
          add 3 seconds or don't add it...I don't really see the problem TBH

          I love when all centers do is stand under the rim....makes for an easy guard for my 7'0 center and clogs the paint...
          That's all I'm saying man lol that's why I get mad when my teammates do it
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          • The 24th Letter
            ERA
            • Oct 2007
            • 39373

            #50
            7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

            Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
            That's all I'm saying man lol that's why I get mad when my teammates do it

            Agree, I'm having a hard time understanding the issue/advantage....

            doesn't make sense to me as a center, lol

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            • FRANCHIZE NW
              Rookie
              • Sep 2015
              • 41

              #51
              Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

              I agree with what was said earlier, that it mainly hurts myself when it's my teammate. As a 6'8 Slashing Swing, that mainly wants to beat my opponents off the dribble or receive a pass off a cut, I have to pass up on my 94 dunk and throw up a floater because there is always 2 big man just asking me to try and jam on them. So a 3,4,5,6 or whatever in the key would be nice.

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              • HowDareI
                MVP
                • Jan 2012
                • 1900

                #52
                Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

                Depending on which one of my friends (or none) are online, I'm either a guard or my center...

                I agree, they're should be a 3 seconds...maybe only on offense.

                But, too many times I've overheard garbage randoms complain I'm "in their way" in the paint, when in reality I'm posting up on the block..not even in the paint.

                Honestly, I can get into a party in no more than 3 games because I will kill most other centers. The more people who make them the better, because I know the position and how to beat the bums who don't. But on the off chance I get someone complaining about how I play I just laugh at em.

                How bout we get rules for guards too? If you're dribbling while you're covered for 5 seconds that's a turnover. Learn to pass.

                Moving screens that these guards who zig zag strive off of, turnover.

                To say 7'3 centers ruin the park is crazy, because I love playing against a slow bum. My 7'3 center is versatile, I'll hit a 15 footer then come right back and do a power move in the post. Come back and do a finesse turnaround. Then swat a shot out of bounds while switching onto a 99 overall shooting guard.

                What ruins the park is people not knowing the rules of basketball, and how to play as a team..it ruins pro-am too. Just like last year where 7' sf's were instantly labeled as cheesers...we don't need that as a big man.
                I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
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                • Rockie_Fresh88
                  Lockdown Defender
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 9621

                  #53
                  Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

                  Originally posted by HowDareI
                  Depending on which one of my friends (or none) are online, I'm either a guard or my center...

                  I agree, they're should be a 3 seconds...maybe only on offense.

                  But, too many times I've overheard garbage randoms complain I'm "in their way" in the paint, when in reality I'm posting up on the block..not even in the paint.

                  Honestly, I can get into a party in no more than 3 games because I will kill most other centers. The more people who make them the better, because I know the position and how to beat the bums who don't. But on the off chance I get someone complaining about how I play I just laugh at em.

                  How bout we get rules for guards too? If you're dribbling while you're covered for 5 seconds that's a turnover. Learn to pass.

                  Moving screens that these guards who zig zag strive off of, turnover.

                  To say 7'3 centers ruin the park is crazy, because I love playing against a slow bum. My 7'3 center is versatile, I'll hit a 15 footer then come right back and do a power move in the post. Come back and do a finesse turnaround. Then swat a shot out of bounds while switching onto a 99 overall shooting guard.

                  What ruins the park is people not knowing the rules of basketball, and how to play as a team..it ruins pro-am too. Just like last year where 7' sf's were instantly labeled as cheesers...we don't need that as a big man.
                  Posting up is ok I do it too . I would very much like to hit you on that 15 footer also. So you're fine wouldn't mine being on teams with you at all.

                  I'm talking about guys who literally just stand there under the basket setting a pick.

                  http://youtu.be/kMaQwb5l18U Look at this video of Porzingas . Pay attention to how him and Lopez aren't directly under the hoop at all times .
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                  • 24ct
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 884

                    #54
                    Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

                    I've never seen anybody call over the back outside. Or loose ball foul. Or out of bounds really. I mean we played wall out if we were in rec and grass if we were at the park. Only calls I've ever seen are travel, and foul. Maybe a kick ball.

                    Either way it's just for balance man. Whether it's easy to guard or not, it causes for diversity. I mean I use a Center and I think 3 in the key would help the game. It would separate good bigs from bad 1s.

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                    • HowDareI
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1900

                      #55
                      Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

                      Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                      Posting up is ok I do it too . I would very much like to hit you on that 15 footer also. So you're fine wouldn't mine being on teams with you at all.

                      I'm talking about guys who literally just stand there under the basket setting a pick.

                      http://youtu.be/kMaQwb5l18U Look at this video of Porzingas . Pay attention to how him and Lopez aren't directly under the hoop at all times .
                      Yea I know what you mean I wasn't really directing that at you just towards the whole thread lol.

                      Some people don't understand the difference between a post up, good positioning, and bad positioning.

                      Basically if you're a big on offense and you've sealed your man off under the rim (regardless who's on you) send him the ball and you got an easy 2 or a foul.
                      Too many guards have this weird thing where they won't pass you the ball if you've already scored a lot. It's not ballhogging or selfish to score when you got crazy positioning like that...

                      I just wish more people would notice, or just learn ball before they come online lol.
                      I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
                      I want to look in the mirror and say I did it my way.

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                      • ProtoPunch
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 125

                        #56
                        Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

                        I understand but totally disagree. Limited time in the key does not belong in MyPark. It runs contrary to the spirit of streetball. Your complaint centers on bigmen that don't play the game the way you want them to play. There are shot clock violations and fouls in MyPark in order to keep the game flowing without being overly restrictive and to unfairly reward steal spam/hard fouls.

                        That being said I would like to see it tried out as an experiment or as an option for a future House Rules one day.

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                        • NINJAK2
                          *S *dd*ct
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 6185

                          #57
                          Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

                          HowDareI- I would love to see a 5 second rule on ball handling..lol. Some people would be averaging 6-7 TO's a game..lol.


                          As far as 3 seconds goes - in places where I play there is usually an unwritten rule(not a whistled violation) to not just camp out in the paint for insane periods of time. People will usually scream at you to move around or start counting out loud on you(3....4...5..6, etc). I'd like to see anyone partake in a real pick up game, playing with people you don't know, and just stand in the paint, I guarantee somebody will say something to you after awhile..lol. I'm not singling out bigs on this, I'm referring to any position.


                          I just want to win games so if someone is hot or has an advantage I'm getting them the rock.
                          EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                          • cablexdeadpool
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 388

                            #58
                            Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

                            Originally posted by ProtoPunch
                            I understand but totally disagree. Limited time in the key does not belong in MyPark. It runs contrary to the spirit of streetball. Your complaint centers on bigmen that don't play the game the way you want them to play. There are shot clock violations and fouls in MyPark in order to keep the game flowing without being overly restrictive and to unfairly reward steal spam/hard fouls.

                            That being said I would like to see it tried out as an experiment or as an option for a future House Rules one day.

                            That doesn't make any sense.

                            This isn't streetball, if you got over the back calls, reach in calls, loose ball fouls and on top that you got a 24 sec shot clock...



                            You playing organized 3 on 3 pick up games and like I said, there is 3 on 3 league that actually exist and they have rules similar to 2K's rules.

                            There's no spirit of the game reason why their cannot be 3 in the key.

                            The same people would get mad that there are no more Kevin Durants mixed with Shaq in Park if there was limited time in the key.

                            It would make the game flow better.
                            Last edited by cablexdeadpool; 11-14-2015, 11:44 AM.

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                            • bo.jangles344
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 1007

                              #59
                              Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

                              They added it but i don't think it's very strict. Sometimes it isn't called, sometimes it is. It's weird.

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                              • 24ct
                                Pro
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 884

                                #60
                                Re: 7'3 Centers Ruin The Park - Limted Time in the Key Is Needed

                                Guys are aware. I never got a 3 in the key last night. But I forced like 4/5. They call moving screens now too. It's definitely made playing a big more active & you actually have to get position for an offensive rebound.

                                I like that it's there but not TOO strict although there was only 1 time I actually saw a big in the paint with me for 3 seconds and didn't get it called. Overall the additions are exactly what we wanted. Especially not being able to press screen within 6 feet of the hoop. Huge game changers. Reduced cheese so much.

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