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  • RyanFitzmagic
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 1959

    #46
    Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

    Originally posted by 23
    That's not the point the point is guys have been complaining about other things. People complained about his shot being too slow last year and they fix that. There are no threads in the general forum where the developers interact about curry shooting 35 footers and nowhere near the amount but complaining that went on here about broken this and broken that about how people can't shoot at all about how the defense is too tough about how people don't want to lose the ball those are the things that have been emphasized this year and those are the things they worked on
    But, see, here's the thing: One of the main issues is Curry not shooting three-pointers on the move or being too aggressive on drives to the basket. You'd think, considering he's the cover athlete and reigning MVP (two-time MVP at this rate), they'd try to get right the one thing that separates him from the rest of the league-- his tendency to shoot and make horrendously difficult three-pointers.

    Instead, they hard-code the AI to not settle for threes and worse, remove the "Moving _____ shot" tendency, the lack of which is where part of the problem comes from.

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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #47
      Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

      Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
      But, see, here's the thing: One of the main issues is Curry not shooting three-pointers on the move or being too aggressive on drives to the basket. You'd think, considering he's the cover athlete and reigning MVP (two-time MVP at this rate), they'd try to get right the one thing that separates him from the rest of the league-- his tendency to shoot and make horrendously difficult three-pointers.

      Instead, they hard-code the AI to not settle for threes and worse, remove the "Moving _____ shot" tendency, the lack of which is where part of the problem comes from.
      Check what your fellow posters have been complaining about for 2k to remove and what they dont like in the game and you have your answer as ive been saying

      Priorities whatever it is now wasn't that before patch 4 dropped

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      • RyanFitzmagic
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 1959

        #48
        Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

        I'm just saying, decisions like removing the Moving Shot tendencies are really baffling, and we rarely get explanations. Roster makers are still scratching their heads over certain tendencies/ratings because we have very little official documentation of what things mean.

        I guess overall, the point is that this really shouldn't have been an issue to begin with. I'm no game developer, but I don't understand why the AI had to be hardwired to drive more. The tendencies are there and as long as the tendencies do what they should, issues like this won't come up that often.

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        • Smirkin Dirk
          All Star
          • Oct 2008
          • 5174

          #49
          Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

          Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
          But, see, here's the thing: One of the main issues is Curry not shooting three-pointers on the move or being too aggressive on drives to the basket. You'd think, considering he's the cover athlete and reigning MVP (two-time MVP at this rate), they'd try to get right the one thing that separates him from the rest of the league-- his tendency to shoot and make horrendously difficult three-pointers.

          Instead, they hard-code the AI to not settle for threes and worse, remove the "Moving _____ shot" tendency, the lack of which is where part of the problem comes from.
          Your pont is 100% valid and I've seen it argued many times.
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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #50
            Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

            Originally posted by Hot Kidd
            Your pont is 100% valid and I've seen it argued many times.
            Thing is, that happened either because of a bunch of complaints from onliners about cheese, or it must've clashed with something else in the design.

            Im def. not for removing things but I see what people ask for constantly and contradict ironically and im not surprised.

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            • RyanFitzmagic
              MVP
              • Oct 2011
              • 1959

              #51
              Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

              Originally posted by 23
              Thing is, that happened either because of a bunch of complaints from onliners about cheese, or it must've clashed with something else in the design.

              Im def. not for removing things but I see what people ask for constantly and contradict ironically and im not surprised.
              I think you're falling into the idea that the OS fanbase is a hivemind. If one user contradicts himself when criticizing the game, that's one thing, but that's not the case here.

              People will lobby for contrasting things to be added/removed. That's inevitable. The best thing the developers can do is make is customizable so that everyone can make edits until the game plays to their liking. Hard-coding things accomplishes the opposite.

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              • SonicMage
                NBA Ratings Wizard
                • Oct 2002
                • 3544

                #52
                Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                I think you're falling into the idea that the OS fanbase is a hivemind. If one user contradicts himself when criticizing the game, that's one thing, but that's not the case here.

                People will lobby for contrasting things to be added/removed. That's inevitable. The best thing the developers can do is make is customizable so that everyone can make edits until the game plays to their liking. Hard-coding things accomplishes the opposite.
                Glad we agree on at least one thing.

                By hard-coding, they'd be bypassing everything that the ratings are trying to accomplish.
                Last edited by SonicMage; 12-16-2015, 06:01 PM.
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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #53
                  Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                  Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                  I think you're falling into the idea that the OS fanbase is a hivemind. If one user contradicts himself when criticizing the game, that's one thing, but that's not the case here.

                  People will lobby for contrasting things to be added/removed. That's inevitable. The best thing the developers can do is make is customizable so that everyone can make edits until the game plays to their liking. Hard-coding things accomplishes the opposite.
                  This stuff goes on all year and I've seen it happen many times

                  They change alot of stuff for to complaining...shoot if you're around the first few weeks you'd see some of us pleading to 2k not to cater to the crying and every year they gimp the gameplay because of it without fail.

                  There is a group is is out shouted and geta lost in the fray because they arent on the board starting threads with caps, ignoring stickies and going on cursing rants everyday. Many are playing not posting many are on twitter and some get through but are nowhere near as loud as what im talking about.

                  If you are here every year and dont see this stuff you almost have to be willfully ignoring it

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                  • The 24th Letter
                    ERA
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39373

                    #54
                    Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                    What's good with some special Spurs coding? We been doing this **** going on 16 years now....I want a 10% bonus every time we swing the ball to an open man on the permitter, lol

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                    • JoFri
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1486

                      #55
                      Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                      Originally posted by 23
                      At release people complained about Durant's shot a little but that was it.

                      ah i hope its not me. i did post smtg to ask for tips on KD shooting bcos prepatch i basically missed 90% of his 3 pt attempts. i did my dues of going practice before every game back then to make sure i got the release right before posting (-_-)"

                      KD is doing fine now with the 3-ball and i'm in the finals facing the Cavs.

                      back to topic, i like what cpu curry does in 2k. he makes the game look real today and challengig. tats imo.

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #56
                        Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                        Originally posted by JoFri
                        ah i hope its not me. i did post smtg to ask for tips on KD shooting bcos prepatch i basically missed 90% of his 3 pt attempts. i did my dues of going practice before every game back then to make sure i got the release right before posting (-_-)"

                        KD is doing fine now with the 3-ball and i'm in the finals facing the Cavs.

                        back to topic, i like what cpu curry does in 2k. he makes the game look real today and challengig. tats imo.
                        Not at all

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                        • 2_headedmonster
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 2251

                          #57
                          Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                          Originally posted by jeebs9
                          Perfectly said!!!

                          Right now if you get him hot.... You can shoot a few jumpers like he does. But you got to build up to that.

                          And plus he is 97 or 98 in every outside shooting rating. If you can't score... You don't know how to play basketball lol jk.

                          Look at this comparison of Peak Steve Nash vs Current Curry.
                          http://2kmtcentral.com/16/players/compare/9018/9692
                          why the hell is Steve Nash a better defender than Curry? 88 shot contest? lmao

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                          • 2_headedmonster
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 2251

                            #58
                            Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                            the complaints about the play of Curry, from contested threes, to the amount of threes, to the depth has been mentioned for some time now on OS. but there was bigger fish to fry, so it was never pushed to the front of the wish list.

                            i just want Curry to take contested threes, step back threes and pull up threes with reasonable curry-like aggression.
                            Last edited by 2_headedmonster; 12-17-2015, 05:15 AM.

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                            • jeebs9
                              Fear is the Unknown
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 47564

                              #59
                              Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                              Originally posted by 2_headedmonster
                              why the hell is Steve Nash a better defender than Curry? 88 shot contest? lmao
                              I know it's the most confusing part about that whole thing. I guess the problem is Nash's team was so normal to boost up the fact that they are a classic team. They gave him a little boost on D. It's peak Nash so I'm not complaining.
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                              • Perkele
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 28

                                #60
                                Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

                                Has anyone tried changing Take 3pt Shots to 100 and having Curry at 100 3pt tendency? Of course other player's 3pt tendency would be scaled to have realistic attempts and you would have to play with other sliders and tendencies to get realistic shot distribution.

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