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  • HowDareI
    MVP
    • Jan 2012
    • 1900

    #106
    Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

    Yea the amount of money 2K makes off of VC in MYTEAM alone should be enough to allow us guys to enjoy it NOT in MyCareer.

    You know what, fine; keep VC in to purchase jumpers, layups, dunks, clothes, shoes, celebrations, etc etc...hell let us purchase sizeups and crossovers as guards even..but I wanna see people earn their overalls and badges and I been saying this since the day VC came out (and used to get blasted on here for saying it lol)

    Wanna know a big reason the game gets boring after a while? Everyone on Youtube bought VC, maxed out different builds, and broadcasted to the masses the "best" ones to use in the Park.
    No trial and error.
    No weeks or months of grinding your character to specifically tailor him into your specified mold of a star-player...
    Nope.
    Just go on Youtube, copy and paste your buckets onto a 6'5 guard and don't forget hesi 3/jamal crawford sizeups lol

    Like I been saying: not only do we need to get them garbage buckets out, but please redo crossovers sizeups etc and lock certain ones for forwards and centers. It's that simple.

    I'll take a 90 speed center that can't do a shamgod or hesi-spin move any day...because even with 55 speed and 35 ball control if they do them moves they work? Bruh.
    I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
    I want to look in the mirror and say I did it my way.

    -Allen Iverson

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    • gjyu
      Just started!
      • Apr 2016
      • 4

      #107
      Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

      Big men have to be able to shoot 3s to hit Free Throws, point guards becoming insane dunkers in order to be able to run fast, etc etc.

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      • abuC
        Banned
        • Oct 2003
        • 1123

        #108
        Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

        Originally posted by ATLBrayden
        Unfortunately there's zero chance 2K stops using VC for upgrades, makes them too much money.


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        The weird thing is they'd stand to make more money without the bucket system.

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        • dnyce87
          Pro
          • Sep 2015
          • 531

          #109
          Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

          Originally posted by abuC
          The weird thing is they'd stand to make more money without the bucket system.
          They absolutely would and I wouldn't care if it cost me double the VC it is now to max out myplayer due to individual attributes. I'd rather have that challenge of figuring out how to mold my guy then to have the buckets do the work for me grouping it altogether.

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          • SpeedyClaxton
            Pro
            • Dec 2015
            • 655

            #110
            Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

            Declining attributes would earn them even more cash ! Players must have flaws and certainly can't be great all the time, whole season. Injuries, exhaustion are factors that contribute to weaker games and especially coming of a big injury should see myplayer big time hit to speed, agility, vertical and for sure some rustiness for shooting attributes.
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            • nova91
              MVP
              • Oct 2009
              • 2074

              #111
              Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

              Originally posted by SpeedyClaxton
              Declining attributes would earn them even more cash ! Players must have flaws and certainly can't be great all the time, whole season. Injuries, exhaustion are factors that contribute to weaker games and especially coming of a big injury should see myplayer big time hit to speed, agility, vertical and for sure some rustiness for shooting attributes.
              This is one of the things I love about The Show. You don't just stay a great player without working on it. There is a lot to be learned from their system. I'm not a fan of caps being in place, just because the league and its players continue to evolve.

              I would suggest all limits are 99, but you would would pick 5-7 key attributes that are little higher and easier for your guy to develop and all costs are based on the height, weight and position of your player.

              Like if you had a 7'3" 350 LB C his speed would start at 35 and it would cost 10000vc to upgrade your speed by 1 point, if you made that one of your key attributes it would start at 40 cost 8250vc instead. A 6'10 262 LB C would start at 50 and cost 7500vc to upgrade or 55 and cost 6250vc if it's a key attribute.

              I would also leave off days more up to the User so you can still do your endorsements and go train whatever skillset you feel you may need to work on like defense, rebounding, shooting, athleticism, mental etc. I'd also give like a 3% discount in the cost based on if you're consistently practicing at a certain skill and the discount increases for every 3 consecutive off days you train it.
              Say "No" to railroaded MC modes.

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              • Mbunn1993
                Pro
                • Nov 2012
                • 870

                #112
                Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

                Originally posted by nova91
                Like if you had a 7'3" 350 LB C his speed would start at 35 and it would cost 10000vc to upgrade your speed by 1 point, if you made that one of your key attributes it would start at 40 cost 8250vc instead. A 6'10 262 LB C would start at 50 and cost 7500vc to upgrade or 55 and cost 6250vc if it's a key attribute.
                This concept is a good idea, but no way in hell it should be that much for ONE point of speed. You may just be throwing out a number, but you're telling me I'd have to spend 220,000 vc to get to the league average speed for a center and still walk like a snail? Or spend 470,000 vc to get to Anthony Davis' speed? Lolololololol

                Even if I chose your 2nd build, thats 52,500 vc to get to the avg. And 240,000 vc to get to ADs speed

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                • SpeedyClaxton
                  Pro
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 655

                  #113
                  Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

                  Originally posted by Mbunn1993
                  This concept is a good idea, but no way in hell it should be that much for ONE point of speed. You may just be throwing out a number, but you're telling me I'd have to spend 220,000 vc to get to the league average speed for a center and still walk like a snail? Or spend 470,000 vc to get to Anthony Davis' speed? Lolololololol

                  Even if I chose your 2nd build, thats 52,500 vc to get to the avg. And 240,000 vc to get to ADs speed
                  Anthony Davis was quick off the college but wasn't strong..for Anthony Davis case strength is a weak side. We talk here about Shaq type of C and Anthony Davis type of C. But in reality it's easier to get mass than be quicker, with all the protein foods and gym's you can be hulking in period of 1 year while 350 lbs C need whole lot of dedication and mental strength to ever be agile, quick.
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                  • nova91
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2074

                    #114
                    Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

                    Originally posted by Mbunn1993
                    This concept is a good idea, but no way in hell it should be that much for ONE point of speed. You may just be throwing out a number, but you're telling me I'd have to spend 220,000 vc to get to the league average speed for a center and still walk like a snail? Or spend 470,000 vc to get to Anthony Davis' speed? Lolololololol

                    Even if I chose your 2nd build, thats 52,500 vc to get to the avg. And 240,000 vc to get to ADs speed
                    Uh yeah. You think AD got to where he is over the course of a night, week, a month, a year? No, he worked on it over the course of his life and probably continues to throughout his career. Also, Davis is 6'10" and 220 lbs, it's obvious that a player that light would pay less to develop his speed. But a player like the 6'11" C I mentioned would be Deandre Jordan whose speed is 71 while league avg is 57, that means it would take 12,500 to get to avg or 100,000 to get to Jordan's level if it's a key attribute. Besides, speed is one of the hardest things to develop for real anyway. There can be tweaks made to where you would start out but the costs should be higher for some more than others. If you want a blazing fast big man you would have to work for it or pay for it and prioritization will be key.
                    Last edited by nova91; 04-28-2016, 04:38 PM.
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                    • Mbunn1993
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 870

                      #115
                      Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

                      Originally posted by nova91
                      Uh yeah. You think AD got to where he is over the course of a night, week, a month, a year? No, he worked on it over the course of his life and probably continues to throughout his career. Also, Davis is 6'10" and 220 lbs, it's obvious that a player that light would pay less to develop his speed. But a player like the 6'11" C I mentioned would be Deandre Jordan whose speed is 71 while league avg is 57, that means it would take 12,500 to get to avg or 100,000 to get to Jordan's level if it's a key attribute. Besides, speed is one of the hardest things to develop for real anyway. There can be tweaks made to where you would start out but the costs should be higher for some more than others. If you want a blazing fast big man you would have to work for it or pay for it and prioritization will be key.
                      Like I said.. The concept is great.. You're arguing over something were agreeing on buddy. My point is it shouldn't take 220,000 vc to be average speed. That's over $50 valued in cash. (Not saying that's how you'd obtain it but just trying to compare value) Just to be average in one single stat. I almost never even reach 20,000 at a single time. To try and earn legit 220,000 vc for one stat to average is absurd. All I am disagreeing on is your VC cost man which is just a small part of your idea. Calm.
                      Last edited by Mbunn1993; 04-28-2016, 05:03 PM.

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                      • Mbunn1993
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 870

                        #116
                        Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

                        Originally posted by nova91
                        Also, Davis is 6'10" and 220 lbs,
                        And just a fun/side note on this, before this last season he bulked up to 253/254 lbs. He's really put in a lot of work toward his strength. You don't realize it looking it him, but compare him now to when he was at Kentucky and he's def bigger to the eye. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets up to at least 265 before next season. Kid is gonna dominate in this league for years to come. His work ethic is outstanding. I remember watching him in the 2012 Olympics and he shot and made a three, and his form was still good then. I knew it would become a part of his game sooner or later, and he's put in the work there too and added that to his game.

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                        • abuC
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1123

                          #117
                          Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

                          Speed should be very expensive for big men and weight should play a bigger role in strength, acceleration, speed and lateral quickness. There would be tradeoffs and sacrifices people would need to make that would also affect how pro-am games are played. If you want a 350 pound center then you have to sacrifice speed for strength which would mean your team plays a little slower and maybe he doesn't crash the offensive boards as hard, or maybe pair him with a smaller quicker power forward. It just adds more depth to the game when you start removing the bucket system.

                          Instead what we have now is two 7'3 centers on almost every team and when they do play smaller big men the speed difference isn't large enough to make it difficult for them to keep up.

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                          • myathebee
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 256

                            #118
                            Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

                            2K is obviously cares about making money..They are getting massive amounts from that myteam stuff.

                            You'd think they would business savy enough to get rid of the buckets and have people pay for stats individually...It's not rocket science..Just basic math would tell you they would make more money.

                            It's honestly a win/win situation..We get some individuality and true playstyles in 2k and they get money.

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                            • SpeedyClaxton
                              Pro
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 655

                              #119
                              Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

                              When 2K decides to change their business philosophy then we can talk about serious simulation. Current mindset is obviously 'let's give masses basketball so 9yr old can play and win against 40yr old'. When 2K's mindset becomes 'OK let's create sim basketball regardless of sales and profit' then we can talk about great basketball game that includes certain level of basketball knowledge to be played.
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                              • Yesh2kdone
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2015
                                • 1412

                                #120
                                Re: Petition to ungroup MyPlayer Attributes for 2017

                                Originally posted by myathebee
                                2K is obviously cares about making money..They are getting massive amounts from that myteam stuff.

                                You'd think they would business savy enough to get rid of the buckets and have people pay for stats individually...It's not rocket science..Just basic math would tell you they would make more money.

                                It's honestly a win/win situation..We get some individuality and true playstyles in 2k and they get money.
                                It costs way more vc to achieve a 99 these days than it did when it was individual attributes. What was that about business savvy?

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