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  • A6_Foul_Out
    Banned
    • Jan 2016
    • 525

    #31
    Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

    Originally posted by ATLBrayden
    This is really for park/pro-am, use whatever offline but for online you'll definitely want one of the "meta" builds.

    Sent from my LG-LS970 using Tapatalk
    Yeah if playing offline make a player locked My-League and give yourself whatever you want.

    Yay, shooting guards that can dribble!

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    • RusDids29
      Rookie
      • Feb 2013
      • 97

      #32
      Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

      Originally posted by A6_Foul_Out
      I. Introduction
      II. Player Meta-Builds. What to do if you don't have one.



      I. Introduction

      • I'm writing this guide as a rather successful Pro-AM/Park (3's and 4's not 2's) player (win % ~90) in order to help integrate those who love 2K, but aren't a part of the game's Meta in Park and Pro-AM.

      • It is very easy to recognize when decent players who are good with basketball knowledge but lack the proper MyPlayer to be truly effective.

      • In this guide I will cover very basic principles and rules that govern 2K MyPlayers online in Park and Pro-Am.


      Disclaimer: I understand that this guide may not be of greatest use here, specifically on OS, just know the audience I'm mostly writing this towards are underskilled players, players from the reddit and elsewhere. If content like this is allowed and appriciated, I can continue this and add rules for offense and defense.

      II. Meta Builds: What are they? Why don't I have one?

      Meta-Builds refer to the most optimal player builds that you can have for your MyPlayer in order to be competitive in 2K. Because 2K changes essential game mechanics so deep into the game cycle, these meta-builds change and it can get expensive, tedious and time-consuming if you try to keep up.
      • All of these builds assume that you will receive all 100 upgrades and become a 99 overall. Also, it is assumed that you get every badge that can improve your player's ability.

      • In this section, I will explain what each of the best builds are for your My-Player and what you can do if you don't have a player like this.


      Point Guard:
      • Point Guards, fortunately, have lots of versatility in the meta and despite the fact that there are still a few rules to follow, many PG builds are still viable at top levels of play.

      • With Patch 6, and the removal of being able to explosively dribble around defenders, there is no advantage to being shorter. The best PG is 6'7 (6'5 and 6'6 work too) and you get diminishing returns for shorter PG's.


      6'7 Inside PG:
      • This is a fun, Pro-Am Viable, Lebron like player. You're able to finish heavily in traffic and Contact Dunks galore. Also, Post Spins around shorter defenders will be quite effective. If you are smart with the angles you attack the rim at, you can be rather effective.

      • Attribute Distribution: 20 Shooting, 20 Inside, 20 Athlete, 20 Playmaking, 20 Defense.


      6'7 Balanced PG:
      • Balanced PG's can shoot just as well as Outside PG's when left wide open. They receive the same greens for wide-open shots. These players receive generous ratings for finishing inside, capable of finishing and dunking in contact.

      • Attribute Distribution: 20 Shooting, 20 Inside, 20 Athlete, 20 Playmaking, 20 Defense.


      6'7 Outside PG:
      • The best shooting player in the meta, the 6'7 outside PG is capable of hitting shots, greens and lightly contested shots at a high rate. With maxed inside, the outside PG is capable of hitting regularly in light traffic.

      • Attribute Distribution: 20 Shooting, 20 Inside, 20 Athlete, 20 Playmaking, 20 Defense.




      Small Forward

      The Small Forward can provide a very niche, yet effective support player within a team. Often the 3rd option or 5th option (in park/pro-am respectively) in the offense, the small forward can provide great defensive and rebounding value from the 3 spot for pro-am or the park.


      Outside SF:

      Imagine Kawahi Leonard defense mixed with Kyle Korver shooting mixed with Dennis Rodman rebounding. This is the ultimate support player for the meta. Can guard 1-5.

      • Ideal height for the SF is between 6'8 and 6'10. This is preference. 6'10 will have a little trouble against guards in iso situations whereas the 6'8 will have a little trouble against centers rebounding.

      • On Offense, the player is typically just going to stick around the 3pt line. Catch and Shoot is all the SF is limited to on offense.

      • On defense, the 6'9 SF is optimal for guarding all 5 positions. Capable of switching, helping, doubling, gambling in the passing lanes etc. all with the speed to get back to close out.

      • Attribute Distribution: 20 Shooting, 0 Inside, 20 Athlete, 20 Playmaking, 20 Rebounding, 20 Defense.


      Balanced and Inside SF's

      No.

      These is no value to these players. The balanced ratings are much too poor to be effective as either an inside or outside threat. The lack of ball control means you will have permanent butterfingers and will be stripped with ease. The inability to dribble will limit your offense. These players are wholly ineffective against top players.

      Shooting Guard

      Joke: The SG told the PG, I'm better than you. The PG responded: -lyrically- "Anything you can do I can do better. I CAN DO ANYTHING BETTER THAN YOU."
      The SG is disappointing in the meta. In no situation are you better off for running a SG than a PG.

      • The shooting is the same, the defense while slightly better is probably statistically insignificant.

      • The biggest drawback however, is the lowered ball control. Without the ability to dribble the ball effectively ball you are relegated to being stripped more often than PG's and Korver status. Run around until you get open. That is the only way you will score effectively against competent defenders.


      Power Forward


      Joke: The PF tried to tell a joke to the Center. The center told the PF to shut up and go sit in the corner. I don't like the fact that I have to babysit for you.

      The PF position in this game is absolutely meaningless. In all circumstances, you are better off running the SF or C.

      Center

      Centers are must-haves for the Pro-Am. 7'3 Centers are the only viable option. Any attempts by smaller players to exploit the lack of speed of a 7'3 Center at either the PF or C position can be easily overcome with the most basic of zone defenses with no penalty.

      The nerf to break starter hurts, and I still need more testing to determine what changes were made. If indeed the change to sucess was global, and not circumstanital it might be worth going without. But I just don't know yet.

      Centers for the park are different. While they are effective, the 6'9 SF is much more versatile and optimal for the park.

      Balanced Center

      Again. Just no.

      Balanced centers have poor shooting ratings. If you want to shoot with a center, choose outside. The inability to green any post shot with a Balanced Center makes their inside game pretty useless as well. Not effective enough for the meta.

      Outside Center
      This player is optimal for the 4 slot in Pro-Am and second to the only the Outside SF for the 3 position in the park.

      • Lacking the need to put points into inside to dunk the ball effectively allows these players to really shine. Forcing a 55-speed center to guard a turboring center that can also shoot is deadly.

      • These players can shoot effectively from mid-range and 3pt. You should be able to green from the corners with ease. From the outside with a ring.

      • Attribute Distribution: Outside 20, Inside 8, Playmaking 12, Athlete 20, Rebounding 20, Defense 20.


      The Big Secret: What to do if you do not have a Meta Player.

      The players listed above are optimal. But that doesn't mean you can't get the most out of the MyPlayer you already have.

      If you do not have a point guard, look below.

      The best advice for attempting to use these players at the highest level, particularly after patch 6 is iso crossover signature style Crossover 11.

      This crossover will single handily allow you to actually control the ball, and gain speed by doing so. If your ball control is lower than 80, it will be very difficult to do much when it comes to having the ball. This crossover changes that.

      Below you will see a 7'2 Felicio dribbling with 55 ball control.

      You can control the ball, gain speed and you are capable of fooling lower skilled defenders despite your low ball control attribute:



      Again, if this is liked on here and allowed, I could continue with information about the game mechanics that cover scoring and defending. Just let me know.
      Nah bro, I disagree with ur PF views.... tell Sid I said hi

      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...g-pf-2k16.html

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      • RusDids29
        Rookie
        • Feb 2013
        • 97

        #33
        Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

        Originally posted by RusDids29
        Nah bro, I disagree with ur PF views.... tell Sid I said hi

        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...g-pf-2k16.html
        this is how a pf is to be played. Play how u want to play. No meta build needed..


        It really bothers me that people take this low quality advice on how to make/play the PF position. If u want to know the real way to play PF watch this video.. and stay true to ur style not one style. Cause at the end of the day this is ur my player not one my player.

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        • abuC
          Banned
          • Oct 2003
          • 1123

          #34
          Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

          What I'm starting to see on PS4, is that teams are using PGs at PF, since the patch that seems to be the new cheese. You try and pass it to your big and it's a strip because the PG has a very high steal rating compared to the terrible ball control rating for big men.

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          • JMart14
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            • Aug 2014
            • 51

            #35
            Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

            There is people actually using SGs 6'5'' or 6'8'' as SF. Shooting is 88 and 85 respectively.


            PF is just useless tho. Most use outside Cs. I personally use a 6'10'' SF as a PF with 11 playmaking and 9 inside scoring. Matchup nightmare. Can hold my own against 95% percent of centers. Downside is having to grinding the whole game to hold position defensively. Not for everyone.

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            • Yesh2kdone
              Banned
              • Feb 2015
              • 1412

              #36
              Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

              This thread is the prime example of why park and career need to be separated.

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              • kadzier
                Rookie
                • Dec 2013
                • 494

                #37
                Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

                As helpful as this guide is, it really highlights some fundamental problems with the design of the game.

                When players are encouraged to only use a specific few types of players instead of anything they want it really hurts the gameplay.

                Just think- under no circumstances are you advised to use a player shorter than six feet seven inches in high level gameplay. That's just crazy

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                • acetheredcomet
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 178

                  #38
                  Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

                  PFs are useful as a offensive threat due to the high post scoring atts.

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                  • hanzsomehanz
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 3275

                    #39
                    Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

                    6'7" Outside SF - I rep at the 3 in Park but can also play the 1 or 2 and have went on Streaks with two bigs while I run the 1 as SF. In Pro Am I play the 3 and 4 sparingly and with Posterizer I'm competent in taking it strong to the paint

                    My next non meta build will be 6'8" Outside SG

                    One thing overlooked is value of Rebounding on any Gaurd 6'4" or taller. My try hard lineups consist of tall gaurds who have enough rebounding to contend with bigs on the boards. If you factor in the size of a mascot it can get real OP but basically tall gaurds with Rebounding give you plenty of second chances for perimeter lineups

                    Inside is very overrated. I have 4 bars on my Inside as a SF and hoop with others who have 0 bars on Inside and we all get by just fine with posters, standing dunks and hop steps

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                    Last edited by hanzsomehanz; 05-30-2016, 02:20 PM.
                    how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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                    • shayellis
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 371

                      #40
                      Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

                      Originally posted by RusDids29
                      this is how a pf is to be played. Play how u want to play. No meta build needed..


                      It really bothers me that people take this low quality advice on how to make/play the PF position. If u want to know the real way to play PF watch this video.. and stay true to ur style not one style. Cause at the end of the day this is ur my player not one my player.
                      This man knows what hes doing. I would love to have him on my team
                      PSN: UVE_HAD_ENOUGH

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                      • A6_Foul_Out
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 525

                        #41
                        Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

                        Originally posted by RusDids29
                        Nah bro, I disagree with ur PF views.... tell Sid I said hi

                        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...g-pf-2k16.html
                        Yup. You shot mostly C quality shots and did and up and unders vs. lowered skilled (and sometimes not 7'3) defenders. Sure looks nice. Garbage for playing at the highest levels of play.

                        Still doesn't answer what the PF can do different than the center?

                        It doesn't. All this shows is that the user is extremely important in skill level. (Also if the people you play are much lower than your skill level, you tend to do well)

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                        • A6_Foul_Out
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2016
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                          #42
                          Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

                          Originally posted by shayellis
                          This man knows what hes doing. I would love to have him on my team
                          Having fun and playing lowered skilled players? yeah.

                          Competitively? He can have all the C quality shots he wants. The 7'3 is going to stand there and make the shorter player fade.

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                          • hanzsomehanz
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 3275

                            #43
                            Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

                            A couple non meta builds I consistently win with as teammates are 6'1" Outside SG and 6'1" Inside PG.

                            In Park and Pro Am I believe in chemistry and I believe in the value of each person being effective with their my player.

                            So, I generally don't hold any bias towards a position albeit I do hold concerns at times based on experience eg; Inside C in Park who don't play their role well.

                            Other builds I do have include a 6'7" Outside PG who just didn't pan out the way I envisioned. I should have given him enough rebounding to snag well. I also should have maxed out his weight. I prefer using max weight - SF is 6'7" 260.



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                            how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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                            • RusDids29
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 97

                              #44
                              Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

                              Originally posted by A6_Foul_Out
                              Having fun and playing lowered skilled players? yeah.

                              Competitively? He can have all the C quality shots he wants. The 7'3 is going to stand there and make the shorter player fade.

                              Lol.. yep, no one I play are any good. U can stand their with ur 7'3 Center holding ur nuts while I, A- buff u into the paint, B- take u outside and run past u, or C- Drop a post move on u so vicious ur head will spin and have u questioning yourself. Those C quality shots go in that's all that matters and I've eaten on tons of high quality 7'3 Centers with those "C" quality shots. Lets see what ur post work looks like.. bet it's just hooks, fades and easy lead passes in the paint for dunks.

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                              • hanzsomehanz
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 3275

                                #45
                                Re: Meta MyPlayer Creation Guide [OC]

                                Originally posted by RusDids29
                                Lol.. yep, no one I play are any good. U can stand their with ur 7'3 Center holding ur nuts while I, A- buff u into the paint, B- take u outside and run past u, or C- Drop a post move on u so vicious ur head will spin and have u questioning yourself. Those C quality shots go in that's all that matters and I've eaten on tons of high quality 7'3 Centers with those "C" quality shots. Lets see what ur post work looks like.. bet it's just hooks, fades and easy lead passes in the paint for dunks.
                                You straight man, I seen your video highlights - what's your PF build?

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                                Last edited by hanzsomehanz; 05-30-2016, 05:08 PM.
                                how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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