Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

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  • Mauer4MVP
    MVP
    • Mar 2010
    • 2407

    #121
    Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

    Originally posted by GradyMac
    I ask why you qualify stats for Curry: e.g. "Good rebounder for his size"

    And you respond with another qualification of rebounding "among point guards."

    If we are talking about greatest ever you have to leave out the qualifications.

    I mean if we are going to use qualifications then Manute Bol was #1 in:
    Rebounding
    Scoring
    Steals
    Assists
    Etc. of all 7'6" black NBA players. So maybe he needs a 99 too?
    Such a dumb post.

    No please, let's not use context when analyzing stats. Anything but that!

    I said he was third among point guards in RPG. The position you play is extremely relevant to how good you are in a facet of basketball. Dear Lord. I shouldn't even need type that out.

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    • cima
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2004
      • 13478

      #122
      Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

      I just think it's funny that Curry fanboys think scoring and scoring efficiently = greatest NBA season ever. Cause you know, scoring is the only thing that matters in terms of a great season.

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      • MoneyOvaHuds
        MVP
        • Jul 2014
        • 3491

        #123
        Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

        Originally posted by SpeedyClaxton
        Please don't use ESPN articles as reference to anything. ESPN is bunch of bandwagon writers and publishers, they even introduced heat index article during time when LeBron was on Heat roster, now they analyze every little thing around Warriors basketball or not basketball related.

        Plus if you go to ESPN page you will see articles how Drake is annoying fan, even labelling Drake as 'greatest rapper alive', lol i could go on and on about ESPN credibility and lack of the same. As for the Curry defense and his rebound numbers, they are fine. People just don't understand that Warriors are well oiled machine that works great as team.

        Being fan of BK Nets i am glad to see they find useful our ex player Livingston, that same Livingston was zero factor in our team but in GSW he is part of system, small part but part nontheless. They developed good system where players compliment each other and help each other, even scrub like Ian Clark look useful in their system.


        ESPN isn't the only article that backs this up tho


        You just don't like curry I think lol

        Plus your Livingston comment is kind of silly because he's just as effective with the nets as he is with GS right now .n


        Only thing different from BK to GS stats are the mins played , 3 points per game more and just a slight dip in efficiency .

        BK

        26 mpg


        8.3 ppg

        48% FG

        3.3 apg

        1.2 spg

        GS
        2 seasons


        19 mpg

        6.1 ppg

        51%

        3.2 apg

        Livingston has always been solid in his career and has played the same way . Thing is he's just been on the best team in the league two years in a row and people actually notice now .

        He's not the same guy he use to be anyway because of his knee .
        Last edited by MoneyOvaHuds; 05-12-2016, 03:07 PM.

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        • SpeedyClaxton
          Pro
          • Dec 2015
          • 655

          #124
          Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

          Originally posted by MoneyOvaHuds
          ESPN isn't the only article that backs this up tho


          You just don't like curry I think lol

          Plus your Livingston comment is kind of silly because he's just as effective with the nets as he is with GS right now .n


          Only thing different from BK to GS stats are the mins played , 3 points per game more and just a slight dip in efficiency .

          BK

          26 mpg


          8.3 ppg

          48% FG

          3.3 apg

          1.2 spg

          GS
          2 seasons


          19 mpg

          6.1 ppg

          51%

          3.2 apg

          Livingston has always been solid in his career and has played the same way . Thing is he's just been on the best team in the league two years in a row and people actually notice now .

          He's not the same guy he use to be anyway because of his knee .
          But in our system in BKN Livingston was mediocre at defense, maybe we can account that GSW help defense is 10 times better than ours tho.
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          • SpeedyClaxton
            Pro
            • Dec 2015
            • 655

            #125
            Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

            This thread really became annoying comparison & unnecessary fuss about some things & stats. To make it clear Steph Curry doesn't justify greater overall than 99, not even 99. For him to justify that rating (99 or greater than 99) he should be playing D like Kawhi, rebound like Drummond, pass the ball like Nash & be athletic like Westbrook, such mixture of skills in one player along with his 3pt proficency doesn't exist and here ends any possible conversation about this nonsense topic.
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            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkHI1hGvWRY

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            • Mauer4MVP
              MVP
              • Mar 2010
              • 2407

              #126
              Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

              Originally posted by SpeedyClaxton
              This thread really became annoying comparison & unnecessary fuss about some things & stats. To make it clear Steph Curry doesn't justify greater overall than 99, not even 99. For him to justify that rating (99 or greater than 99) he should be playing D like Kawhi, rebound like Drummond, pass the ball like Nash & be athletic like Westbrook, such mixture of skills in one player along with his 3pt proficency doesn't exist and here ends any possible conversation about this nonsense topic.

              I know I said I'm done, but I just can't help myself. So are you saying Jordan shouldn't be a 99? Because he wasn't all of those things. If you are, then you 100% have an argument.

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              • Mauer4MVP
                MVP
                • Mar 2010
                • 2407

                #127
                Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                Originally posted by cima
                I just think it's funny that Curry fanboys think scoring and scoring efficiently = greatest NBA season ever. Cause you know, scoring is the only thing that matters in terms of a great season.
                Kind of being a huge bigot. You realize that, right?

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                • SpeedyClaxton
                  Pro
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 655

                  #128
                  Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                  Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
                  I know I said I'm done, but I just can't help myself. So are you saying Jordan shouldn't be a 99? Because he wasn't all of those things. If you are, then you 100% have an argument.
                  By the standards i wrote in my post i would give Jordan 98 rating, 99 seems so cheesy & corny and even GOAT had flaws. But let's say 98 rating would be close to perfect player but certainly not perfect !
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                  • cima
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 13478

                    #129
                    Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                    You guys keep insinuating 99 is perfect but it's not. 99/100 does not equal 100%. Like I stated, you can't create a player with a 100 rating in 2K and that's how it should be. 99 is the closest thing to the perfect basketball player...which was MJ.

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                    • Mauer4MVP
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 2407

                      #130
                      Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                      Originally posted by SpeedyClaxton
                      By the standards i wrote in my post i would give Jordan 98 rating, 99 seems so cheesy & corny and even GOAT had flaws. But let's say 98 rating would be close to perfect player but certainly not perfect !
                      Finally we're on common ground. I can't argue consistency.

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                      • Mauer4MVP
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 2407

                        #131
                        Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                        Originally posted by cima
                        You guys keep insinuating 99 is perfect but it's not. 99/100 does not equal 100%. Like I stated, you can't create a player with a 100 rating in 2K and that's how it should be. 99 is the closest thing to the perfect basketball player...which was MJ.
                        And Curry.

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                        • cima
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 13478

                          #132
                          Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                          Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
                          And Curry.
                          What part of he's not an elite defender don't you understand? Seriously...

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                          • Mauer4MVP
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 2407

                            #133
                            Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                            Originally posted by cima
                            What part of he's not an elite defender don't you understand? Seriously...
                            And what part of "Curry is a good defender and makes up for not being an elite defender by being the greatest scorer ever" do you not understand?

                            Also, I'm not saying this would make Curry a much better defender, but again you can argue that no hand check helps Curry score (which is mostly false). But it also helped Jordan be a great defender.

                            His highlight reels are full of him using his forearm/hands to impede progress to the basket.

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4gigN2zMU4

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                            • cima
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 13478

                              #134
                              Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                              Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
                              And what part of "Curry is a good defender and makes up for not being an elite defender by being the greatest scorer ever" do you not understand?

                              Also, I'm not saying this would make Curry a much better defender, but again you can argue that no hand check helps Curry score (which is mostly false). But it also helped Jordan be a great defender.

                              His highlight reels are full of him using his forearm/hands to impede progress to the basket.

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4gigN2zMU4
                              So should Steve Nash be a 99 OVR too since his shooting and playmaking was so good that it made up for not being a good defender? You don't rate a guy 99 OVR just because he's really good at one area. Basketball is played both ways. Even being the GOAT on offense isn't justification for a 99 rating when he doesn't even have above average defensive ability.

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                              • Mauer4MVP
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 2407

                                #135
                                Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

                                Originally posted by cima
                                So should Steve Nash be a 99 OVR too since his shooting and playmaking was so good that it made up for not being a good defender? You don't rate a guy 99 OVR just because he's really good at one area. Basketball is played both ways. Even being the GOAT on offense isn't justification for a 99 rating when he doesn't even have above average defensive ability.
                                Well no because Curry is better than Nash was on offense and defense.

                                And he is AT LEAST an above average defender.

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