I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

Seems there was simply more detail with the legends faces in previous years.

Not sure what the problem is and why 2K can't get this right.

All you have to do is look at the pc community and some of the amazing legends cyberfaces they create and wonder why a company with tons of cash can't output models to rival that.

I know time and money are always an issue, but c'mon - this is what modders are doing:

Maybe it's me, but those picture are not that good....

[daveberg]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

Maybe it's me, but those picture are not that good....

Each to their own my friend, maybe my eyesight is going in my old age!

I think compared to what we have now, they're a massive improvement, personally.

The T-Mac image I posted earlier is also a good example:

[daveberg]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

Few more Shaq Mods........

[Insight23]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

I think Shaq himself had something to do with the change. I hated it too.

Ahh c'mon Shaq haha

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

Each to their own my friend, maybe my eyesight is going in my old age!

I think compared to what we have now, they're a massive improvement, personally.

The T-Mac image I posted earlier is also a good example:

Then it's me. IMHO, they look the same to me minus the facial hair. Personally, I think the player model is too thick. T-Mac was built more like Paul George.

[daveberg]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

Then it's me. IMHO, they look the same to me minus the facial hair. Personally, I think the player model is too thick. T-Mac was built more like Paul George.

Lol, could be either of us.

Sure we both interpret the visuals differently based on our personal preferences. I'll try and grab a shot of in game Shaq tonight for reference.

[NARFALICIOUS]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

Maybe 17 will be the saving grace.

[dxyyz1]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

Maybe 17 will be the saving grace.

I'd doubt it if they have Larry Bird looking like Michael Rapaport now I dont wanna know what they did to Shaq.

[MarkWilliam]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

2K11 - Jordan Challenge. Legends were good. Jordan in particular.


2K12 - Greatest Mode. Legends looked good.


2k13 - Dream Team announced. Looked good.


Now move onto next gen and things like Park, My Career, #bethestory etc. etc. become the focus...... Online has taken over and as a result the legends no longer appear to matter as much.


So essentially NBA 2K has gone online. It's become self aware. Its basically the Skynet of sports gaming and the legends represent mankind....


Too dramatic?

[Phreezy P]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

Hey, didn't 2K hire Jaosming precisely BECAUSE his mod work was so good?

What gives?

Aaaand they put him in charge of 2KTV.

You can't make this stuff up.

[BA2929]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

I'm not entirely sure why they can't bring in a few of the greats and face scan them, then edit them from there. Magic Johnson barely looks any different than he did in the early 90s outside of a few lbs on his face.

Those look amazing, 2k artists must be 5 year olds.

Well they have a lot more to do with the game than just mod the faces of all-time players, tbh. Probably took these modders an entire few days to edit some of these faces. If the 2k artists did that for each classic player they'd never finish.

[daveberg]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

2K11 - Jordan Challenge. Legends were good. Jordan in particular.


2K12 - Greatest Mode. Legends looked good.


2k13 - Dream Team announced. Looked good.


Now move onto next gen and things like Park, My Career, #bethestory etc. etc. become the focus...... Online has taken over and as a result the legends no longer appear to matter as much.


So essentially NBA 2K has gone online. It's become self aware. Its basically the Skynet of sports gaming and the legends represent mankind....


Too dramatic?

Nope. You hit the nail right on the head.

The fantasy modes and online portion of the game seems to take precedence over the other sections of the game.

2k11, 12 & 13 were the last games that actually did the legends any service.

That said, 2k were amazing enough to keep adding teams, which I'm eternally grateful for, but they just need to be visually brushed up and given a touch of signature styling to them to make them really pop.

Doubt it'll happen, and 2k will give us some other fantasy dedicated mode endorsed by a rapper or a film director......

[cassette]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

Well they have a lot more to do with the game than just mod the faces of all-time players, tbh. Probably took these modders an entire few days to edit some of these faces. If the 2k artists did that for each classic player they'd never finish.

Bull. This is a question of resources and priorities. 2K isn't some shabby two-man software shack, you know.

It's easy to say that most 2K players don't care about the classic players / or legends aren't 2K's top priority, because it's trickier than this. For instance, the "collecting card" mode in MyTeam is quite heavily based on people lusting after those rare legends...

[MarkWilliam]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

At the risk of starting a riot I'll say this.

I love legends and when 2K introduced it (via MJ: Creating a Legend) in 2K11 it was something of an untapped market. So they blew up the internet and sunk time and man power into something that's never been done.

From a business stand point it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go an re-shape something that will not generate any new revenue. Unless the numbers speak loud enough (in terms of lost sales) they have no reason to go and re-invest time and man power into something they've already done.

Every year it looks like a new mode or feature is introduced and lets face it, its because new is exciting.

How does 2K announce "hey all, we're re-visiting legends!!" and turn enough heads to justify?

Sad but it appears, true..... money. It talks. A lot.

[daveberg]

Re: I don't understand how they have a generic Shaq on all the classic teams?

At the risk of starting a riot I'll say this.

I love legends and when 2K introduced it (via MJ: Creating a Legend) in 2K11 it was something of an untapped market. So they blew up the internet and sunk time and man power into something that's never been done.

From a business stand point it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go an re-shape something that will not generate any new revenue. Unless the numbers speak loud enough (in terms of lost sales) they have no reason to go and re-invest time and man power into something they've already done.

Every year it looks like a new mode or feature is introduced and lets face it, its because new is exciting.

How does 2K announce "hey all, we're re-visiting legends!!" and turn enough heads to justify?

Sad but it appears, true..... money. It talks. A lot.

Well personally, I think they could reignite it by introducing another classic themed mode, but it won't happen. The market for online play, mycareer, park etc is too great for 2k to really invest anymore of their time into the classics. That said - look at the attention this gets on here, nearly every year, about this time, folk start discussing the legends at depth - must be something in that, right?

I was always partial to the idea of a 'greatest playoff game' mode so the user gets to reenact some of the best playoff battles we've seen spanning across several different eras - just something to get 2k a little more dedicated towards this aspect of the game, as we've all agreed, it's in need of some polish.