Historic Teams will be DLC

[Junior Moe]

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Those types of classics would be ideal. However, the wording from the Forbes article seems to more likely suggest "All-Time" teams, like NBA 2K used to do back in the mid-2000's.

So if I had to guess, it's going to be squads stemming from the universities shown in the trailer today, like an All-Michigan State team with Magic Johnson, Steve Smith, Jason Richardson, Zach Randolph, and maybe some guys who didn't have 2K rights prior like Shawn Respert and Greg Kelser. (P.S. Would be an extra bummer for me if that's how it works, as I'm a University of Michigan guy, a college that appears to have been replaced by MSU this year.)

I still think we need to be careful what we ask for. If enough folks state they'll pay for stuff that they've previously received as part of the game's original sticker price, I reckon 2K will oblige you. If DLC is truly an add-on and a sort of separate entity (like the 3-on-3 DLC in New York for 2K12), I can better understand a charge there. However, if this is a business taking something that easily could have just been included initially and separating it to cash out, I don't think that should be encouraged so readily.

Thing is, this is extra content. There has never been any all time college teams in a NBA 2K game. They haven't done the all time decade team since the introduction of classic teams, IIRC. This is extra bonus content. Now if they had started charging for regular classic NBA teams we've had in the past I'd see your point. But this isn't that and I see no problem with it. If they expanded on classic teams and charged for it I wouldn't see a problem with that either provided they were done right and complete. I'd pay for that, too. The way I see it is to support when a company does something you like to incentivize them to continue that. I remember buying 2 copies last year after reading the MyLeague blog. If supporting 2K with this gets us more college stuff or even classic teams then I'm down.

[kiev123]

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So is this the reason why Create A Team hasn't made a return to current gen versions ?

[DutchMastah7]

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Thing is, this is extra content. There has never been any all time college teams in a NBA 2K game. They haven't done the all time decade team since the introduction of classic teams, IIRC. This is extra bonus content. Now if they had started charging for regular classic NBA teams we've had in the past I'd see your point. But this isn't that and I see no problem with it. If they expanded on classic teams and charged for it I wouldn't see a problem with that either provided they were done right and complete. I'd pay for that, too. The way I see it is to support when a company does something you like to incentivize them to continue that. I remember buying 2 copies last year after reading the MyLeague blog. If supporting 2K with this gets us more college stuff or even classic teams then I'm down.

This. Definitely not gonna pay for teams we've already had in past iterations, but like I said, if paying for DLC is what it takes for them to give us even more classic teams, maybe they'll give more attention to them and maybe we'll get a lot more than we already have. I bought the DLC for 2K12 specifically because it gave us access (through use of redditor) to classic players that weren't in the game.

[jfsolo]

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People have said it, if they're charging cash, it better not be half-assed.

[CaseIH]

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Im fine as long as you dont have to actually spend money to purchase Historic teams, if you can purchase based on VC then Im fine with that, because I never use my VC anyway, since I dont play MyPlayer. Now if I have to actually pay real $ and not VC then Im not going to be too happy, nor I doubt I buy any of them, since its all we can do to buy the actual game anyway.

[VDusen04]

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Thing is, this is extra content. There has never been any all time college teams in a NBA 2K game. They haven't done the all time decade team since the introduction of classic teams, IIRC. This is extra bonus content. Now if they had started charging for regular classic NBA teams we've had in the past I'd see your point. But this isn't that and I see no problem with it. If they expanded on classic teams and charged for it I wouldn't see a problem with that either provided they were done right and complete. I'd pay for that, too. The way I see it is to support when a company does something you like to incentivize them to continue that. I remember buying 2 copies last year after reading the MyLeague blog. If supporting 2K with this gets us more college stuff or even classic teams then I'm down.

I guess it's a matter of perception. The NBA classic teams are obviously already included now, but they were once as new as these all-time teams are now, and they were a part of the actual product price.

The question, I guess: when is a new feature considered a part of the initial product price and when is it considered extra? Aren't the new additions supposed to be why we're paying another $70 for a basketball game in the first place just one year after spending $70 the season prior?

I'm just not a big fan of the precedent at this point. I love the classic teams, and I have my complaints about them, but 2K spent multiple years implementing and including them as a part of the $70 ticket price and the game's financial health only seems to have flourished since. As such, as a consumer, I don't think I can vibe with this kind of approach, especially if it begins occurring year after year, taking the type of stuff I used to be able to expect to get for $70 and turning it into a potential $100+ foray.

[basehead617]

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I think 2k has the video game business down to a science. Rely on unemployed youtubers to create videos and market their game (genius). Don't release any information about the game and switch over all "extra" content to DLC.

You mean like the free prelude?

[Junior Moe]

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I guess it's a matter of perception. The NBA classic teams are obviously already included now, but they were once as new as these all-time teams are now, and they were a part of the actual product price.

The question, I guess: when is a new feature considered a part of the initial product price and when is it considered extra? Aren't the new additions supposed to be why we're paying another $70 for a basketball game in the first place just one year after spending $70 the season prior?

I'm just not a big fan of the precedent at this point. I love the classic teams, and I have my complaints about them, but 2K spent multiple years implementing and including them as a part of the $70 ticket price and the game's financial health only seems to have flourished since. As such, as a consumer, I don't think I can vibe with this kind of approach, especially if it begins occurring year after year, taking the type of stuff I used to be able to expect to get for $70 and turning it into a potential $100+ foray.

You also have to keep in mind that the year 2K went all in on legends was the year of the NBA lockout. Or maybe it was the plan all along to expand on the legends model introduced in 2K11 with Jordan. Who knows. But that was a new game selling thing.

It's up to each individual person to decide what warrants a new purchase. The additions to ML alone sealed my purchase. But each person is different. At the time, I wouldn't have ponied up any cash for the classic teams in 2K12. It's not my thing.

Now that I have been able to play with them and enjoyed the experience I would now. Why? Because I feel that they're a secondary part of the game based on how much attention they have received since 2K12. If 2K was all in on legends then all of the sudden decided to charge I'd feel gouged. But knowing that they haven't been touched much I'm lead to believe that it isn't a priority. I get that. This isn't College Hoops or Classic Teams 2K17.
So I have no problem paying for either classic teams or these college teams because I feel it adds value to the product. It may offset the cost or labor involved, IDK. It's not like they're holding ML or some other mode behind a paywall. That would be something different entirely for me because then I would feel like they're expecting me to pay for something they already had, and that I expect, to be in the game already.

Honestly, it's not that different than me paying a dollar for Sting a few years back in WWE. I'm an old school wrestling fan. Sting was worth it. This year they're doing something similar with the NXT people. I have no clue who they are so I don't care. But neither fundamentally changes the game. That's how I see this.

[sportjames23]

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So it's just historic college teams, correct?

As long as it only colleges, I'm good with this. Unless 2K later gets access to NBA teams or players they hadn't had before and then adds them as DLC, I'd be ok with that.

[BluFu]

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I have a feeling that we won't get any new classic NBA teams at launch but around December they'll offer like 10 as DLC.

Just a hunch

[BA2929]

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Ill buy it even if i dont play

I want them to give us another CH2k

Same here. I miss my college hoops.

[CaseIH]

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Same here. I miss my college hoops.

Yeah, I miss CH2k too, personally I enjoyed CH2k8 more so than any other basketball thats ever been made. I played that until I switched in 09 to the PS3, because I needed MLBTS and 2k baseball was trash, so I had no choice really. I bought CH2k8 for the PS3, but I learned the hard way back then that consoles werent the same with some games, and CH2k8 on the PS3 had some issues with freezing, along with some other issues. Thankfully now days its hard to tell a difference in games from 1 console to the other thankfully.

I like what 23 and you said about supporting the college DLC even if you didnt play it if it meant getting CHoops back. If we werent struggling financially right now, I would be thinking the same thing, if it meant bringing CH2k back into play. I miss that game so much, and to think now with the technology advancements by 2k how much better it would be graphically, and CH2k graphics were ahead of its time. Thanks to Ed Obannon and some others Im not sure if we will ever see a college game made again from any sport, unless college players start getting paid. While I dont believe they should get paid because they are getting a free education, I do think if done right and all schools were treated equally with all players getting the same amount of money no matter the size of conference your in, then why not allow kids to get a small portion of money from their likeness, but it would need to be the same no matter the skill of player or size of school,to keep things fair. Some schools and coaches will always try to cheat, so its not like this would cause any more issues than we already see.

[J_Posse]

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I think 2k has the video game business down to a science. Rely on unemployed youtubers to create videos and market their game (genius). Don't release any information about the game and switch over all "extra" content to DLC.


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Kind how every other title is marketed, today? Or even the other in-house product in WWE 2K.

from Spurs Nation/Bills Backer HQ

[VegetableLasagna]

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Gaming industry these days is sad

[DatIsraeliGuy]

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Why are people fine with this? "As long as the rosters are full and accurate, it's fine"
No it freaking isn't! Just because 2k are too lazy to make the rosters complete and accurate, doesn't mean they can now charge MORE money for it.
DLC shouldn't be something we've had for free since it debuted! If the national teams were DLC, fine because we didn't have them (only in 2k13).
2k are getting closer and closer to being EA 2.0