Any news on NBA historic teams?

[daveberg]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

Doesn't matter what teams are being requested - the fact is, just looking on these forums, the classic squads have a huge fan base and people feel the legends are being pushed to the back in favour of other game modes - that's not exactly a great way to keep your customers happy.

Do 2k care? Perhaps not, but some of us do.

[Kstat]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

Doesn't matter what teams are being requested - the fact is, just looking on these forums, the classic squads have a huge fan base and people feel the legends are being pushed to the back in favour of other game modes - that's not exactly a great way to keep your customers happy.

Do 2k care? Perhaps not, but some of us do.

These forums are a very, very small percentage of the people that buy 2K.

No one wants historic teams more than I. But I don't expect 2K to pay attention to what I want. There aren't nearly enough people that care about historic teams for 2K to make it a priority.

Besides, much like 2K12, I fully expect 2K to be making a big historic push for 2K18 in anticipation of a lockout.

[MarkWilliam]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

These forums are a very, very small percentage of the people that buy 2K.

No one wants historic teams more than I. But I don't expect 2K to pay attention to what I want. There aren't nearly enough people that care about historic teams for 2K to make it a priority.

Besides, much like 2K12, I fully expect 2K to be making a big historic push for 2K18 in anticipation of a lockout.

Interesting point about the lock out. Hopefully that's true.

Legends are an interesting one. Unlike current NBA, legends will NOT change. So if they spent a little bit more time/man power on at least touching up what's in the game now (as far as teams/players) - I mean faces and signature styles, I think it would go a long way.

And the beauty of that, once done, won't need to be touched again. Legends ain't gonna evolve any further.

But touche`, we are but a small percentage.....

[scbond3]

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Look, I'd love the 77 Blazers or the 86 rockets. You and I are in the vast minority though, of gamers that live historic teams that are themselves in the vast minority of 2K gamers that play the game.

2K would have to get the rights to an extra half dozen guys minimum to make a competent 77 Blazers team. Same with the 86 rockets. And no 80's sixers team is complete without Andrew Toney, the one outside threat on that team. No point without him.

No point in having the 80 Lakers. Why? Is anyone begging for norm Nixon and Jamal Wilkes? Is Kareem going to play any different than his 71 version?

My point was that none of the most requested historic teams are pre-1991, and I stand by that. It's only guy to get worse now that Duncan is gone with many right behind him, and the 03/05 Spurs will now be at the top of everyone's wish list.

Where's this study of yours that says I'm in the "vast minority". I'm the only one that actually gave you teams in this thread. 2K12 had that Legends mode where you could replay moments in legends careers, built off the MJ mode in 2K11. You mean to tell me, probably Magic's greatest moment, starting center for Kareem in the finals as a rookie couldn't have been his moment? 2K had no problem filling the rosters for all those 70's Lakers teams but they would have a problem for the 80 team? Makes no sense. Your Andrew Toney argument makes no sense either because they put that 85 Sixers team there with out Andrew Toney and Moses also. Toney averaged 18 ppg for that 85 team...

[VinnyVegas28]

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I disagree with many posters that say legend teams are in minority when it comes to popularity. The sales from 2k10 to 2k11 were more than double due to Jordan and friends being back in the game..2k11 skyrocketed this franchise back to the top of the video sports games. You could make an argument that the legends resurrected this franchise. 2k16 sold 4 million copies in the first 2 weeks..people were excited about the new spike Lee story mode but also addition of several classic teams..I don't think we are in minority. I know 2k can't satisfy us all but at least the legends are getting some work. If they didn't care, we wouldn't have received all the teams last year. There are such great CAP and roster makers out there, at least we have complete customization this year..ill have that than nothing in a heart beat

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[Kstat]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

Where's this study of yours that says I'm in the "vast minority". I'm the only one that actually gave you teams in this thread. 2K12 had that Legends mode where you could replay moments in legends careers, built off the MJ mode in 2K11. You mean to tell me, probably Magic's greatest moment, starting center for Kareem in the finals as a rookie couldn't have been his moment? 2K had no problem filling the rosters for all those 70's Lakers teams but they would have a problem for the 80 team? Makes no sense. Your Andrew Toney argument makes no sense either because they put that 85 Sixers team there with out Andrew Toney and Moses also. Toney averaged 18 ppg for that 85 team...

The study is called common sense. Most people that play 2K are under 30 and the majority of them do not care about players that played 25-50 years ago.

And you don't add an entire team just for one moment. If you're going to add an entire new team it shouldn't be to add a less attractive Magic/Kareem team with guys that nearly weren't as fun as the showtime era teams. Then you'd have to add the 1980 sixers all for one scenario...its just a waste of effort for two teams that won't be used at all outside of a scenario mode.

And yes the 1985 sixers were DOA because of the absence of both Barkley and Toney. They should never have bothered with it. The 80's sixers are broken without him.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

The simplest answer could be that they can't obtain anymore rights. They got a good collection of teams already.

I'm trying to find the thread where people were requesting classic teams based on the players already on the team.

[scbond3]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

The study is called common sense. Most people that play 2K are under 30 and the majority of them do not care about players that played 25-50 years ago.

And you don't add an entire team just for one moment. If you're going to add an entire new team it shouldn't be to add a less attractive Magic/Kareem team with guys that nearly weren't as fun as the showtime era teams. Then you'd have to add the 1980 sixers all for one scenario...its just a waste of effort for two teams that won't be used at all outside of a scenario mode.

And yes the 1985 sixers were DOA because of the absence of both Barkley and Toney. They should never have bothered with it. The 80's sixers are broken without him.

Its not common sense because they would not have spent the time and money at all to get MJ's rights, Barkley rights, Kareems rights, Pippen rights etc and sell specific legends versions of the game with from players of that era on the cover. You will never ever never see 2K with Tim Duncan on the cover...

[VDusen04]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

The simplest answer could be that they can't obtain anymore rights. They got a good collection of teams already.

I'm trying to find the thread where people were requesting classic teams based on the players already on the team.

Thread in question: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...eady-game.html

I don't think they're at a point where they can't obtain more rights though. Rather, I reckon they've sort of just looked at the 40+ classic teams they have already and figured, "Yeah, I think that's a pretty good base."

We started with 18 or so in 2K11 and it was exciting and awesome. Then it jumped to 30+ in 2K12 and included about 92% of the greatest players of all-time (with filters and rules and graphics and its own mode to boot). Then last year they added something like 12 more from 2000 onward. That's awesome to me.

I'd love even more teams, especially to complement squads without a feasible opponent (the already included 1977 76ers). But I'm still just excited that as many exist as they do; though, probably doesn't mean I'm going to stop pushing for the game to get all the details right in a vain similar to what they displayed in 2K12.

[SonicMage]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

The study is called common sense. Most people that play 2K are under 30 and the majority of them do not care about players that played 25-50 years ago.

Generalized statement which you have no evidence for. They would not have added special historic modes for 2K11 or 2K12 if there wasn't a market for it. Companies like 2K go through extensive market research using focus groups and analytics departments. If the historic modes tested poorly in focus, they would have been stripped well before release.

And you don't add an entire team just for one moment. If you're going to add an entire new team it shouldn't be to add a less attractive Magic/Kareem team with guys that nearly weren't as fun as the showtime era teams. Then you'd have to add the 1980 sixers all for one scenario...its just a waste of effort for two teams that won't be used at all outside of a scenario mode.

And yes the 1985 sixers were DOA because of the absence of both Barkley and Toney. They should never have bothered with it. The 80's sixers are broken without him.

The reason the majority of these classic teams exist in 2K in the first place was to install them for single-game historic scenarios, so that makes your argument null and void.

Also, this type of mindset is counter-productive. Even incomplete teams are better than nothing, because fortunately we have the tools to fill in the blanks. A Kings team without Webber was released a few years ago, so I created him myself, and enjoyed playing with that team. The next year they stripped the team from the game, along with the arena, jerseys, etc. that went along with it. Do you feel like that was the correct decision to make?

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

Thread in question: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...eady-game.html

I don't think they're at a point where they can't obtain more rights though. Rather, I reckon they've sort of just looked at the 40+ classic teams they have already and figured, "Yeah, I think that's a pretty good base."

We started with 18 or so in 2K11 and it was exciting and awesome. Then it jumped to 30+ in 2K12 and included about 92% of the greatest players or all-time (with filters and rules and graphics and is own mode to boot). Then last year they added something like 12 more from 2000 onward. That's awesome to me.

I'd love even more teams, especially to complement squads without a feasible opponent (the already included 1977 76ers). But I'm still just excited that as many exist as they do; though, probably doesn't mean I'm going to stop pushing for the game to get all the details right in a vain similar to what they displayed in 2K12.

Thanks. I just bumped the other thread.

[sportjames23]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

I disagree with many posters that say legend teams are in minority when it comes to popularity. The sales from 2k10 to 2k11 were more than double due to Jordan and friends being back in the game..2k11 skyrocketed this franchise back to the top of the video sports games. You could make an argument that the legends resurrected this franchise. 2k16 sold 4 million copies in the first 2 weeks..people were excited about the new spike Lee story mode but also addition of several classic teams..I don't think we are in minority. I know 2k can't satisfy us all but at least the legends are getting some work. If they didn't care, we wouldn't have received all the teams last year. There are such great CAP and roster makers out there, at least we have complete customization this year..ill have that than nothing in a heart beat

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Thank you.

If we fans of Legends were such a small minority, why would 2K even bother to put them in the game?

[gmjb33]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

Is that possible we finish some achievement to unlock classic teams?

[JJRuelz]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90G9AvX_brI

[Kstat]

Re: Any news on NBA historic teams?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90G9AvX_brI

Wish Smoove would do some homework. The NBA is not going to allow Gilbert Arenas to be affiliated with any product they have. He's toxic. 2K isn't going to want to add a guy that may be going to jail soon either. Begging Gilbert via Twitter is just going to make it really awkward when 2K has to come out and say they want no part of him.

Also, Kareem was in 2K12. 2K16 was not his first appearance.