NBA 2K17 Pro-Am Discussion Thread

[Tstone77]

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Pay-to-win game models are selling advantages through micro transactions, that players not paying, would have to spend time playing to accomplish. Buying enough VC to instantly max out character, gives player an advantage over others who have to play the game and earn the VC. Gives player advantage that has nothing to do with skill or strategy, just they spent more money. Many games do do this, but they don't call themselves eSports. COD eSport matches are you can pick all guns and whatever you want. Don't have to level anything up, pure skill on what your choose and how to choose it.

VC's implementation into Pro Am is 100% an example of a pay-to-win game model.

CODs do have packs you can buy where you get guns early...but they are still locked behind lvl requirements. VC is equivilent of letting people buy XP in COD, so they can be LvL 40 instantly, and have access to all guns instantly, and be able to prestige way quicker, making them seem skilled and that they earned it, but all they did was pay more money, and had advantage over other players because of it.

Wrong. You went on to the park, pro-am, rec center;with a 75 overall that was your choice. You could have grinded to a 90 or whatever rating you desired. In 2 weeks are you going to be able to tell who payed to get to 90 and who grinded there? No, you're not because there is no difference. So it's not pay-to-win, it's just pay to get somewhere quicker. It gives them no advantage. You stepped into the competitive arena ill-equipped that is your fault. I don't pay for VC and I never have, but hearing people complain about it makes me think of the boy who had to work all summer to get his Ps4 and complains because someone else didn't.

Also COD has weapons exclusive to supply drops. The whole community has actually spoken up about this. Youtube cod pay-to-win, some videos should pop up

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[Greene_Flash03]

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Same here, and it got to the point for me where if you cant beat them join them and I ended up buying VC. I put like 30 hours and was only in the mid to low 60s, the grind in MyCareer is too real and it sucks that that's the character you need for Pro-AM.

Man, I hate to buy VC just to match up with players in park or pro am. So I guess I won't play pro am until I max out my player.

[infam0us]

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Did you shrink you wingspan and ignore strength and weight being positive factors for paint protection ����

Most users, tall and short, would answer yes to all of the above... so many want all the offensive positives that they are shrinking their wingspan, making there dude super lightweight and ignoring strength in their attribute upgrades.

There will be consequences to being a lightweight with t-rex arms. I'm not saying you are this person. It could be a badge you're lacking that's bottlenecking your defensive shot contest in the paint.

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Went with default SF size build, I haven't put up the strength too much so I guess that might be it.

[Greene_Flash03]

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Wrong. You went on to the park, pro-am, rec center;with a 75 overall that was your choice. You could have grinded to a 90 or whatever rating you desired. In 2 weeks are you going to be able to tell who payed to get to 90 and who grinded there? No, you're not because there is no difference. So it's not pay-to-win, it's just pay to get somewhere quicker. It gives them no advantage. You stepped into the competitive arena ill-equipped that is your fault. I don't pay for VC and I never have, but hearing people complain about it makes me think of the boy who had to work all summer to get his Ps4 and complains because someone else didn't.

Also COD has weapons exclusive to supply drops. The whole community has actually spoken up about this. Youtube cod pay-to-win, some videos should pop up

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I think it gives them an advantage when the game matches them against teams with mid-70's players. That being said though, 2K just need to improve matchmaking. When my squad is not maxed out, I expect to play a team with the same ratings. Last night, we played a 15th ranked team in the world and that shouldn't be happening IMO.

[infam0us]

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Man, I hate to buy VC just to match up with players in park or pro am. So I guess I won't play pro am until I max out my player.

Yeah, I was kinda mad at myself after doing it but it's whatever now. It wouldn't be so bad if 2k at least made your guy a 70 to start your career. Going from a 55 to 99 aint no joke and then when you can pay to get to an 85 right off the bat, it would have been like 3 weeks of trying to play catch up to get to the 80s at this rate.

[Tstone77]

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I think it gives them an advantage when the game matches them against teams with mid-70's players.

You stepped into the competitive gauntlet. You came in ill-equipped. If I'm playing call of duty and I get put into a lobby with a 5.00 K\D. I can't complain because I stepped into the competitive gauntlet. You play,learn, and get better. Even in real life you might have to play against someone who is better than you naturally. You all END up at the the same spot.

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[Greene_Flash03]

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You stepped into the competitive gauntlet. You came in ill-equipped. If I'm playing call of duty and I get put into a lobby with a 5.00 K\D. I can't complain because I stepped into the competitive gauntlet. You play,learn, and get better. Even in real life you might have to play against someone who is better than you naturally. You all END up at the the same spot.

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Totally get what you're saying. However, mid-tier teams should be allowed to play in pro-am against mid-tier teams too. Pro-am shouldn't only be for max players. Again, it's all about matchmaking.

[Tstone77]

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Totally get what you're saying. However, mid-tier teams should be allowed to play in pro-am against mid-tier teams too. Pro-am shouldn't only be for max players. Again, it's all about matchmaking.

Have you never gone against a team that's rated similarly to yours or that is lower? If that's the case then I hear where you're coming from a little. The 76ers gotta face the warriors,it's just how things work out. You got matched against goliath, then overcome like david.

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[Greene_Flash03]

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Have you never gone against a team that's rated similarly to yours or that is lower? If that's the case then I hear where you're coming from a little. The 76ers gotta face the warriors,it's just how things work out. You got matched against goliath, then overcome like david.

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Not at all. Last night, we even played a 15th ranked team in the world. LOL. Needless to say, we got creamed big time. If they fixed matchmaking, I don't really mind if people buy VC's to max their players quicker. As long as they only play maxed teams, not scrubs.

[infam0us]

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Have you never gone against a team that's rated similarly to yours or that is lower? If that's the case then I hear where you're coming from a little. The 76ers gotta face the warriors,it's just how things work out. You got matched against goliath, then overcome like david.

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It doesn't have to though, I play a lot of Rocket League and while it's flawed they have a nice ranked match system. You get matched up against people of your skill level. As you improve the quality of your opponent improves. I think for something like Pro-AM they can and should do something like that. If the overall rating of your team is 65 find other people in that range, don't throw them to a top 20 team.

[Tstone77]

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It doesn't have to though, I play a lot of Rocket League and while it's flawed they have a nice ranked match system. You get matched up against people of your skill level. As you improve the quality of your opponent improves. I think for something like Pro-AM they can and should do something like that. If the overall rating of your team is 65 find other people in that range, don't throw them to a top 20 team.

Fun game! This kind of goes back to what I was saying though. You stepped into the gauntlet, pro-am is the most competitive of online modes, Why should they take mercy on you when you have other competitive options? If this was the only mode then I'd understand. This is your player an by jumping into pro-am you were saying that your player was ready for elite competition.

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[Greene_Flash03]

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Fun game! This kind of goes back to what I was saying though. You stepped into the gauntlet, pro-am is the most competitive of online modes, Why should they take mercy on you when you have other competitive options? If this was the only mode then I'd understand. This is your player an by jumping into pro-am you were saying that your player was ready for elite competition.

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Maybe 2K should put different lobbies for different tiers in Pro-Am? For instance, 60-70 teams has its own lobby. Same goes for 70-80 and 80-99 teams.

For now though, I won't touch Pro-Am until my squad is maxed out. Which is a shame.

[Tstone77]

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Maybe 2K should put different lobbies for different tiers in Pro-Am? For instance, 60-70 teams has its own lobby. Same goes for 70-80 and 80-99 teams.

For now though, I won't touch Pro-Am until my squad is maxed out. Which is a shame.

That doesn't make it less exciting for you? Always playing people rated the same as you. When I see a team with 90's I get pumped up like joe budden. I get thrills from being the underdog, my legs get to shaking. I love it!

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[Greene_Flash03]

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That doesn't make it less exciting for you? Always playing people rated the same as you. When I see a team with 90's I get pumped up like joe budden. I get thrills from being the underdog, my legs get to shaking. I love it!

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Oh, I think it'll be more exciting. Games will be much closer IMO. Though, I'm sure some teams can still beat you by 10. At the very least though, your team and the team that beats you are on the same 'level'. That makes it 'fair'. You lost, because your team didn't play well, not because the other team is rated so highly, you can't even stop them.

[abuC]

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i ran up against a nightmare matchup for me in walk on yesterday. he was 6'5 210lb (maybe he weighed more, i dont remeber) sharshooter SF. i am a 6'9 glass cleaner.

it was fun playing against him, but even when i DID manage to stay infront of him he splashed me (pause lol) all game

but on the flip side, he got absolutely NO BOARDS even when he had position. i didnt feel he was OP, he went for 24pts on (lol the shame, THE SHAAAAAME) i went for 13pt 10rb and my teammates didnt understand i had a mouse on me in the post - so we lost.

but it was fun playing against him. he couldnt.really do anything but shoot - but damn, could he shoot

We tried playing with 3 sharpshooters in one lineup yesterday at pg sg and c. I have a lockdown defender and I also have a point forward and unlike a lot of other pro-am teams when I have my point forward with those shooters I run the offense. One of the sharpshooters has HOF badges and I just got dimer, he can make shots from nearly halfcourt and with defenders in his chest.

It may not be that bad in walk on, but on teams where players hunt for shots for their shooters it's going to have to be tuned. I had 8pts 7asts in the 1st quarter before I got lagged out and they were hitting shots from everywhere.