NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - 2 Full Games (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K) - Archive Available

[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - 2 Full Games (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K) - Archive Available

People can't be serious acting like its the end of the world that a developer blog won't come out before the game drops.

You're buying it anyway and that's not going to stop you.

I'm sure your entire videogame collection is full of purchases that were made without a developer blog. Get serious.

It's a shame what 2K threads have turned into.

Who was acting like it was the end of the world?

Several people said they were disappointed because they were looking forward to seeing Czar and Scott go in depth about the new features that they worked on all year but no one was acting like it was the end of the world. That's ridiculous.

[renni]

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I'm wondering if you actually watched the full stream or if you played basketball in real life. Because calling it "smooth and realistic" seems like a bit of a stretch to me. Scroll up a bit to read a list of just SOME of the things that should never happen in a realistic game that I saw in this stream.
Granted there were A LOT of good things and improvements, but please let's not collectively pretend that suddenly this game is perfect.

if you read what he said . He clearly said it wasn't perfect

[renni]

Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - 2 Full Games (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K) - Archive Available

Yes, they have added a lot of things.

For me it was most important so see if they got rid of the 2 problems that I can not accept.

1, skating/sliding still there

2, physics. The ball can still go right through a players body which makes it uninteresting to play good positional defense. An example at 2.35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ladhW0v580

So for me it is unplayable.

don't see why it would stop you from playing positions defense . It's not that frequent . If anything they cut down on it . It's still a game . Will be a few hiccups

[extremeskins04]

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I'm wondering if you actually watched the full stream or if you played basketball in real life. Because calling it "smooth and realistic" seems like a bit of a stretch to me. Scroll up a bit to read a list of just SOME of the things that should never happen in a realistic game that I saw in this stream.
Granted there were A LOT of good things and improvements, but please let's not collectively pretend that suddenly this game is perfect.

While you're entitled to your opinion, no one said the game was perfect. I also liked the fact that that one of the players was out of bounds when he got passed the ball. Now if that happens all the time, it's a problem. Players make mistakes in real life too.

[lvnba]

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No love for the playbook. Haven't seen them call a play in the whole stream.

[Staffan54]

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don't see why it would stop you from playing positions defense . It's not that frequent . If anything they cut down on it . It's still a game . Will be a few hiccups

Good point, but I think it happens too often.
I saw some videos today and it was obvious in all gamed that I watched.

Most of the other sports games got this right by now, why is it so difficult for 2K?

[The 24th Letter]

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I'm glad we have a ball tangibility slider this year. I think it will open some eyes as to how wacky things can get when jacked up- assuming its the same slider Czar told us about on the developer side....I think peiple get way too caught up in the fact that clipping occurs, and not in the context its happening in.

As far as the footage- guess for me the improvements immediately jump out...I played a lot of 2K16...that defensive stickiness muddying the game out has been eliminated....while still showing the ability to defend competently...

The real test will be when I get my hands on 5 on 5 gameplay....but it looks good to me...

[renni]

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Good point, but I think it happens too often.
I saw some videos today and it was obvious in all gamed that I watched.

Most of the other sports games got this right by now, why is it so difficult for 2K?

different kind of game. It would seem incredible hard too 100% get rid of it. Im just okay knowing its progress. Physics seems amazing this year and you get penalized more for hitting someones body and ect. I feel like their is more reward on defense for offensive errors , but you are right. It still has more it can improve on

[RNS1hunnid]

Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - Full Game (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K)

Are you going to buy 2k17? I'm honestly wondering if you should, because the body type thing seems to really, really bother you to the point that the game won't even be fun to play.


On topic: Anyone notice if the post-game highlights are playing in the stream? I can't tell if they're playing 6 min quarters again to avoid the bug this year or not as I've jumped in and out of the stream.

It's doesn't just bother him it bothers a numerous amount of people including me it's a eye sore that can easily be patched


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[extremeskins04]

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It's doesn't just bother him it bothers a numerous amount of people including me it's a eye sore that can easily be patched


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I'm sure they will patch it. Hopefully it will make the first patch. I think what BA was talking about was more along the lines of it seems like every other thread that gets created, the player models complaint gets brought into again. There are numerous threads with that same complaint, and while it's a valid concern, that other user seems to bring it up over and over again in multiple threads.

I'm pretty sure 2k will patch it quickly.

[Krodis]

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OG kept trying to get LD to call plays or use some strategy but he didn't listen [emoji14]

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[CrimsionXBL]

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Exactly. But the 2k demographic is basically full of morons with a vocabulary limited to fire and lit. The SHOW community is much different, but has gotten worse after the popularity of the PS4. Based on what I've seen and especially after the stream, there is no way I'm pre-ordering. The prelude felt like NBA Live and this new shooting balance between buttons vs. analog is gonna be a joke. I'm not into park, so there's not much there. If the just put shooting strictly analog it would be fine.

This may be off-topic but let's be real here, what in the hell his this? The "2k demographic" is basically filled with morons with a vocabulary limited to fire and lit...... really dude?

And I'm someone who's apart of both the show and nba 2k's demographic and I can tell you that my vocab isn't limited to that degree, but to challenge someone in that regard based off what games they like...

Back on topic, I liked what I saw for the most part and I'm excited to get my hands on it this friday. I do still have my gripes but being able to see the game in motion for an extended period of time was very nice.

[extremeskins04]

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This may be off-topic but let's be real here, what in the hell his this? The "2k demographic" is basically filled with morons with a vocabulary limited to fire and lit...... really dude?

And I'm someone who's apart of both the show and nba 2k's demographic and I can tell you that my vocab isn't limited to that degree, but to challenge someone in that regard based off what games they like...

Back on topic, I liked what I saw for the most part and I'm excited to get my hands on it this friday. I do still have my gripes but being able to see the game in motion for an extended period of time was very nice.

Well said. I agree.

[CBAT]

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Was cool to get to see some live gameplay last night. I am impressed by most of the dribbling, the help defense, and needing to protect the ball (not being so reckless dribbling and passing). I will have to work on the latter, being an uptempo kind of guy.

Two issues I do see:

1. Almost the exact same animation for a foul call near the basket, where both players bodies bump into each other, defender with hands in the air. I've seen that A LOT.

2. Many fumbling of the ball animations and then you are forced to pick up your dribble. This one is annoying because you RARELY see guys do this in the NBA, but I saw it happen three times over a few minute span.

[adwin7]

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Its amazing how something can look so underwelming and individuals think it looks great/amazing only because it's the "latest and greatest". I mean seriously, it looks very 2k16ish. Sliding, and the same inappropriate animations at times. But because it's new it must be 'amazing'? The level of self awareness and lack of a true opinion on here is ridiculous. Ppl only saying it's great BECAUSE they feel like that's what the should be saying and not because they are blown away.

IMO, I'm simply not impress. I'm actually more prepared for a letdown from what I've been seeing thus far.

I've owned every 2k ever made. I am amazed and excited each year, not because I think they have made a perfect game but because they have, once again, improved a great game. 2k is more than just another game in peoples library of games. I expect different things from Elder scrolls 5-7 year dev cycle than I do for 2k year over year, but if I compared this year to 2k10 then we would see the same level of innovation. There was a lot of innovation in one year and its pretty reasonable for people to be excited.

Your perspective on the game is your own but don't go assuming you know why people get excited.

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