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  • MadManCometh
    Banned
    • Aug 2007
    • 459

    #121
    Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - Full Game (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K)

    Originally posted by EccentricMeat
    Gameplay looks amazing. Animations look smooth and realistic instead of jittery and robotic like previous years. Game speed and player speed also looks much improved.

    But some of those body types are AWFUL. Some of these guys look like they're tall middle-schoolers [emoji15]
    Its amazing how something can look so underwelming and individuals think it looks great/amazing only because it's the "latest and greatest". I mean seriously, it looks very 2k16ish. Sliding, and the same inappropriate animations at times. But because it's new it must be 'amazing'? The level of self awareness and lack of a true opinion on here is ridiculous. Ppl only saying it's great BECAUSE they feel like that's what the should be saying and not because they are blown away.

    IMO, I'm simply not impress. I'm actually more prepared for a letdown from what I've been seeing thus far.
    Last edited by MadManCometh; 09-14-2016, 01:33 AM.

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    • pavko99
      Rookie
      • May 2016
      • 62

      #122
      Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - Full Game (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K)

      Originally posted by MadManCometh
      Its amazing how something can look so underwelming and individuals think it looks great/amazing only because it's the "latest and greatest". I mean seriously, it looks very 2k16ish. Sliding, and the same inappropriate animations at times. But because it's new it must be 'amazing'? The level of self awareness and lack of a true opinion on here is ridiculous. Ppl only saying it's great BECAUSE they feel like that's what the should be saying and not because they are blown away.

      IMO, I'm simply not impress. I'm actually more prepared for a letdown from what I've been seeing thus far.
      I don't think you're right on this one, although what you're saying is certainly true with many new-released games. I really do feel that 2k17 has improved, although I haven't personally played it yet. The game just looks different from 2k16 and that's not based on the fact that this is the latest installation of the game.

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      • joshearl
        Rookie
        • Dec 2014
        • 50

        #123
        Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - Full Game (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K)

        Originally posted by MadManCometh
        Its amazing how something can look so underwelming and individuals think it looks great/amazing only because it's the "latest and greatest". I mean seriously, it looks very 2k16ish. Sliding, and the same inappropriate animations at times. But because it's new it must be 'amazing'? The level of self awareness and lack of a true opinion on here is ridiculous. Ppl only saying it's great BECAUSE they feel like that's what the should be saying and not because they are blown away.

        IMO, I'm simply not impress. I'm actually more prepared for a letdown from what I've been seeing thus far.


        Or perhaps that is exactly how they feel. Maybe you are just being negative for the sake of it, I don't know that for sure so it wouldn't be prudent of me to accuse of that outright.


        Its only my opinion but I think you should stop guessing how people think and feel.


        The game does look amazing though.

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        • Simhead23
          Banned
          • Sep 2016
          • 236

          #124
          Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - Full Game (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K)

          Originally posted by MadManCometh
          Its amazing how something can look so underwelming and individuals think it looks great/amazing only because it's the "latest and greatest". I mean seriously, it looks very 2k16ish. Sliding, and the same inappropriate animations at times. But because it's new it must be 'amazing'? The level of self awareness and lack of a true opinion on here is ridiculous. Ppl only saying it's great BECAUSE they feel like that's what the should be saying and not because they are blown away.

          IMO, I'm simply not impress. I'm actually more prepared for a letdown from what I've been seeing thus far.
          You're just one of those people that hate on anything 2k does just for the sake of looking "cool" huh?

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          • Finepanther
            Rookie
            • Feb 2014
            • 151

            #125
            Originally posted by Mackiaveliko
            Funny how they won't even have a trailer or news about MyPark and Pro-AM.. ONLY AFTER RELEASE!

            I don't like this.. for many reasons
            Makes zero sense from a marketing perspective. When everyone complained about a lack of news they always said "we do this every year." Waiting tell after release is definitely not the norm so they bs'd us on that.

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            • Trackball
              MVP
              • Sep 2012
              • 1306

              #126
              Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - 2 Full Games (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K) - Archive Available

              Originally posted by Finepanther
              Makes zero sense from a marketing perspective. When everyone complained about a lack of news they always said "we do this every year." Waiting tell after release is definitely not the norm so they bs'd us on that.
              I'm reminded of what happened to Commodore, the computer company.

              They released the very best computers for their time, including the best-selling computer model of all time, the Commodore 64.

              Their last model, the Amiga, was quite far ahead of what PCs and Macs could do at the time...and few people in the US bought it, because by then, their marketing department was complete trash.

              Complete trash in the US, that is.

              Australia was a different story...

              <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5PygDf6E94o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

              Or maybe I just needed an excuse to spread that super-catchy jingle. Who knows.

              Anyway, my game's downloading now! HYPE!

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              • sniapeko
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                • Jan 2013
                • 384

                #127
                Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - 2 Full Games (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K) - Archive Available

                Everyone's praising the good things, which are many, and nobody saying there was a lot of discouraging stuff from this stream.
                I might appear as the negative type, but I just can't unsee what I didn't like:
                - just let OG and Czar play instead of those two bofoons. That's the way we could get REAL insights from a gameplay standpoint.
                - Staples Center audience in full light. So much for the arena authenticity they so much boasted.
                - the AI coach subbing in Minnesota's starting lineup with less than a minute in the 4th while being up by 20+.
                - animations aren't that improved TBH. During the Raptors-Pacers game, Al freaking Jefferson had 2 steps PLUS a 2-step gather basically going from the free throw line to a dunk.
                - Cory Joseph standing out of bounds causing a turnover when the ball got
                passed to him....
                - Ronnie throwing the ball off the back of the backboard during an after the basket inbound from the baseline.

                Basically I saw much of the same of 2k16.
                Last edited by sniapeko; 09-14-2016, 02:44 AM.
                NBA 2K16 (XBOX ONE) 2016 Draft Class - Actual Drafted Players! (SIMWORLD compatible!) http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-xbox-one.html

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                • Finepanther
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 151

                  #128
                  Originally posted by Simhead23
                  You're just one of those people that hate on anything 2k does just for the sake of looking "cool" huh?
                  Bit of a reach there.

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                  • EccentricMeat
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 3236

                    #129
                    Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - Full Game (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K)

                    Originally posted by MadManCometh
                    Its amazing how something can look so underwelming and individuals think it looks great/amazing only because it's the "latest and greatest". I mean seriously, it looks very 2k16ish. Sliding, and the same inappropriate animations at times. But because it's new it must be 'amazing'? The level of self awareness and lack of a true opinion on here is ridiculous. Ppl only saying it's great BECAUSE they feel like that's what the should be saying and not because they are blown away.

                    IMO, I'm simply not impress. I'm actually more prepared for a letdown from what I've been seeing thus far.


                    Ummm... No. I'm a very objective person when it comes to games I enjoy, and I always err on the side of caution/negativity.

                    However, this gameplay showed animations and movement that FLOWED and didn't look like a VIDEO GAME, it looked smooth and realistic.

                    I've played countless hours of NBA 2K and I never saw animations and movement like NBA 2k17 shows. I would always notice obvious hitches when an animation would be triggered in previous games, and it always felt like I was just moving from one animation to another to another. 2k17 looks like it has removed these hitches and drastic changes in movement, instead providing subtle animation triggers and transitions.

                    I like it. That does NOT mean I think the game will play perfectly. Hell, I'm a slider guru, and I know I'll have a LOT of tweaking to do to get it to play as realistic as it LOOKS.
                    My Slider Threads
                    NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
                    The "Movement" Sliders Explained
                    The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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                    • RandomPerson
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                      • Aug 2012
                      • 174

                      #130
                      Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - 2 Full Games (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K) - Archive Available

                      So hard to judge 2K games before release because most people just don't know how to play.

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                      • GudStuffzz
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 352

                        #131
                        Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - 2 Full Games (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K) - Archive Available

                        Game looks much smoother and fluid but there are some concerns to me. At times it seems a little ice skateish if that make sense. like there are some times where players seem to just slide & glide around the court. And that out of bounds force field is still there. Other than that and some weird animations and floaty passes here and there the game looks good. It's a shame that crowd audio seems unchanged though, it really does help with the immersion factor.

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                        • sniapeko
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                          • Jan 2013
                          • 384

                          #132
                          Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - Full Game (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K)

                          Originally posted by EccentricMeat
                          Ummm... No. I'm a very objective person when it comes to games I enjoy, and I always err on the side of caution/negativity.

                          However, this gameplay showed animations and movement that FLOWED and didn't look like a VIDEO GAME, it looked smooth and realistic.

                          I've played countless hours of NBA 2K and I never saw animations and movement like NBA 2k17 shows. I would always notice obvious hitches when an animation would be triggered in previous games, and it always felt like I was just moving from one animation to another to another. 2k17 looks like it has removed these hitches and drastic changes in movement, instead providing subtle animation triggers and transitions.

                          I like it. That does NOT mean I think the game will play perfectly. Hell, I'm a slider guru, and I know I'll have a LOT of tweaking to do to get it to play as realistic as it LOOKS.
                          I'm wondering if you actually watched the full stream or if you played basketball in real life. Because calling it "smooth and realistic" seems like a bit of a stretch to me. Scroll up a bit to read a list of just SOME of the things that should never happen in a realistic game that I saw in this stream.
                          Granted there were A LOT of good things and improvements, but please let's not collectively pretend that suddenly this game is perfect.
                          NBA 2K16 (XBOX ONE) 2016 Draft Class - Actual Drafted Players! (SIMWORLD compatible!) http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-xbox-one.html

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                          • Staffan54
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                            • Oct 2015
                            • 13

                            #133
                            Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - 2 Full Games (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K) - Archive Available

                            Yes, they have added a lot of things.

                            For me it was most important so see if they got rid of the 2 problems that I can not accept.

                            1, skating/sliding still there

                            2, physics. The ball can still go right through a players body which makes it uninteresting to play good positional defense. An example at 2.35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ladhW0v580

                            So for me it is unplayable.
                            Last edited by Staffan54; 09-14-2016, 06:17 AM.

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                            • Goffs
                              New Ork Giants
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 12278

                              #134
                              Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - Full Game (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K)

                              Originally posted by MadManCometh
                              Its amazing how something can look so underwelming and individuals think it looks great/amazing only because it's the "latest and greatest". I mean seriously, it looks very 2k16ish. Sliding, and the same inappropriate animations at times. But because it's new it must be 'amazing'? The level of self awareness and lack of a true opinion on here is ridiculous. Ppl only saying it's great BECAUSE they feel like that's what the should be saying and not because they are blown away.

                              IMO, I'm simply not impress. I'm actually more prepared for a letdown from what I've been seeing thus far.
                              Hah! I like the part where you say IMO....

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                              • LouAllDay
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                                • Oct 2010
                                • 74

                                #135
                                Re: NBA 2K17 Twitch Stream - 2 Full Games (Ronnie2K vs. LD2K) - Archive Available

                                Originally posted by RandomPerson
                                So hard to judge 2K games before release because most people just don't know how to play.
                                This. A good player making efforts to make the player movements natural and the ball movement realistic could make the game look like a real one.

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