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  • Bballintelligence
    Banned
    • Sep 2016
    • 4

    #46
    Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

    Originally posted by alabamarob
    My issue is that human shooting is to easy on hof defaukt for 2k17. Sim sliders used to be 40, 40, 45, and 47. Now its all 50s. So every open shot drops. Its not a big deal bc we can change it ourselves, but on default everyone can shoot. Imo. Going back to the old shooting sliders on hof would be great. Also inside contact shot frequency is now at 50. The old sim sliders had inside contact at 100 which makes paint play more realistic. Thus, inside shooting 40, close 40, 45 mid, and 47 three. Inside contact frequency 100. Everything else is good so far. I like the shot contest strength on jumpers better a 55 than the old 60 on sim sliders. This is all for user.

    My suggestion. Thanks for asking Beluba.

    Please stop over exaggerating. Every open shots DOES NOT go in. I repeat, DOES NOT GO IN. Man you need to learn to play better defense. Coming to the threads and begging for a slider changed because your defense isn't good is going to ruin the game.

    The game is actually fun at the moment and every year, its the guys who don't have the skill to play good defense always make threads like this and ultimately make the game scripted like last year. Now Beluba doesn't know any better and will say, okay I'll change them. Like bro, stand your ground. With the exception to on ball steals, floaty passes and things of that natute, the game plays great. With great defense, you arent getting bs and the "script" feeling is gone.

    Well now us skilled vets will only have until next week apparently to enjoy the game because of this thread. Now the guy is bout to make the game feel scripted as heck with all the missed open shots that are about to come. Dont cry about shooting percentages when you can stop with good defense. Just get better

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    • Bballintelligence
      Banned
      • Sep 2016
      • 4

      #47
      Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

      Originally posted by minwager
      I have come to the conclusion that if anyone on the other team decides to pull up from three it's going in no matter the situation in mycareer. I've been blown out by 20 or more for the past 10 games while leading the team in scoring and basic decision making. Idk what else to do other than bump the difficulty down and hopefully wait for a patch.
      Just bump the difficulty to pro bro. Dont come in here asking for a slider change because YOU arent good at the game yet. Just practice and get better

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      • Bballintelligence
        Banned
        • Sep 2016
        • 4

        #48
        Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

        This year the game is about skill and you guys are begging for a slider change so the gsme can make you miss shots you're supposed to hit and make it scripted to give you a fighting chance. This is the same stuff that happens every year and Beluba just becomes a pushover when a few ask for a slider change. Thats just not right man

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        • 8KB24
          MVP
          • Jun 2012
          • 2106

          #49
          Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

          Or maybe 50-70% FG is just not realistic every game?

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          • raidertiger
            Rookie
            • May 2011
            • 493

            #50
            Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

            Originally posted by Bballintelligence
            Please stop over exaggerating. Every open shots DOES NOT go in. I repeat, DOES NOT GO IN. Man you need to learn to play better defense. Coming to the threads and begging for a slider changed because your defense isn't good is going to ruin the game.

            The game is actually fun at the moment and every year, its the guys who don't have the skill to play good defense always make threads like this and ultimately make the game scripted like last year. Now Beluba doesn't know any better and will say, okay I'll change them. Like bro, stand your ground. With the exception to on ball steals, floaty passes and things of that natute, the game plays great. With great defense, you arent getting bs and the "script" feeling is gone.

            Well now us skilled vets will only have until next week apparently to enjoy the game because of this thread. Now the guy is bout to make the game feel scripted as heck with all the missed open shots that are about to come. Dont cry about shooting percentages when you can stop with good defense. Just get better
            So the HOF CPU against the HOF CPU shoots over 60% in the game...do you suggest to it that it should get better?

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            • minwager
              Rookie
              • Dec 2013
              • 129

              #51
              Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

              Originally posted by Bballintelligence
              Please stop over exaggerating. Every open shots DOES NOT go in. I repeat, DOES NOT GO IN. Man you need to learn to play better defense. Coming to the threads and begging for a slider changed because your defense isn't good is going to ruin the game.

              The game is actually fun at the moment and every year, its the guys who don't have the skill to play good defense always make threads like this and ultimately make the game scripted like last year. Now Beluba doesn't know any better and will say, okay I'll change them. Like bro, stand your ground. With the exception to on ball steals, floaty passes and things of that natute, the game plays great. With great defense, you arent getting bs and the "script" feeling is gone.

              Well now us skilled vets will only have until next week apparently to enjoy the game because of this thread. Now the guy is bout to make the game feel scripted as heck with all the missed open shots that are about to come. Dont cry about shooting percentages when you can stop with good defense. Just get better
              How are you supposed to play better defense for your whole team in mycareer? Literally half the shots the cpu makes on hof is by busting threes in my teammate's eye and there's nothing I can do about it. I'm not asking for the game to be easy, I want it to be more realistic, the default hof slider set we have now is just unfair and it doesnt make sense because its not how basketball works.

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              • alabamarob
                MVP
                • Nov 2010
                • 3335

                #52
                Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

                Originally posted by Bballintelligence
                Please stop over exaggerating. Every open shots DOES NOT go in. I repeat, DOES NOT GO IN. Man you need to learn to play better defense. Coming to the threads and begging for a slider changed because your defense isn't good is going to ruin the game.

                The game is actually fun at the moment and every year, its the guys who don't have the skill to play good defense always make threads like this and ultimately make the game scripted like last year. Now Beluba doesn't know any better and will say, okay I'll change them. Like bro, stand your ground. With the exception to on ball steals, floaty passes and things of that natute, the game plays great. With great defense, you arent getting bs and the "script" feeling is gone.

                Well now us skilled vets will only have until next week apparently to enjoy the game because of this thread. Now the guy is bout to make the game feel scripted as heck with all the missed open shots that are about to come. Dont cry about shooting percentages when you can stop with good defense. Just get better
                I spelled default wrong. Thanks for catching that for me. I have to get better at posting from my phone.
                Psn: Alabamarob
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                Settings I play on.
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                Difficulty: HOF
                Online or Offline player: Both
                In a MLO: Yes

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                • hanzsomehanz
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 3275

                  #53
                  Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

                  I'm taken back by how readily obliged Mike is to adjust the offline and online experience basked on this threads feedback alone. I'd expect him to use his own expert knowledge and stick to his panels vision for the game.

                  It's still so soon and regarding the online experience: Mike can tweak shooting sliders specifically if he feels the results are too extremely off the Sim path. I definitely recommend a slow course to resolution and take careful time to monitor and analyze the results over a weekly basis. Small samples will always produce extremes and it's only large samples over long periods that will give has an honest plate of truth.

                  There's about 5 main heads in this thread and its shocking to think the community's fate for sliders rests on theses 5 mains heads vision for the game. The game play designer is ready to faithfully change the whole offline and online experience based on their face value recommendations? Why not work off the data you already receive that we are not privy to... this doesn't look like a legitimate strategy and it's like mixing the old thread with new thread or pouring new wine in old bottles... the game sliders were offered to us differently for a reason.

                  I love the contact I see online and offline and would be very annoyed to see it wilt away due to some innocent fixes to tweak scoring success. The physicality of the game has been a point that has been promoted and marketed as a core part of the game and I would appreciate it stay here. I know this mixing of the old with new will surely break the bottle.

                  Thanks for this opportunity to let me speak to you here, Beluba. I'm going to digress from here and let the destiny of this game take its course.

                  Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk
                  Last edited by hanzsomehanz; 09-18-2016, 09:52 AM.
                  how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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                  • ataman5
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 2620

                    #54
                    Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

                    Originally posted by Bballintelligence
                    This year the game is about skill and you guys are begging for a slider change so the gsme can make you miss shots you're supposed to hit and make it scripted to give you a fighting chance. This is the same stuff that happens every year and Beluba just becomes a pushover when a few ask for a slider change. Thats just not right man
                    I'm truly on the same point of view with you yet sometimes things can get really messy and there needs to be a better sweet spot, not all the begging is for an easy game always, this 'maybe' legit once in a while so overall as i'm with you yet there should be an investigation for a better competitive and true to basketball gameplay.

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                    • alabamarob
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3335

                      #55
                      Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

                      Originally posted by hanzsomehanz
                      I'm taken back by how ready obliged Mike is to adjust the offline and online experience basked on this threads feedback alone. I'd expect him to use his own expert knowledge and stick to his panels vision for the game.

                      It's still so soon and regarding the online experience: Mike can tweak shooting sliders specifically if he feels the results are too extremely off the Sim path. I definitely recommend a slow course to resolution and take careful time to monitor and analyze the results over a weekly basis. Small samples will always produce extremes and it's only large samples over long periods that will give has an honest plate of truth.

                      There's about 5 main heads in this thread and its shocking to think the community's fate for sliders rests on theses 5 mains heads vision for the game. The game play designer is ready to faithfully change the whole offline and online experience based on their face value recommendations? Why not work off the data you already receive that we are not privy to... this doesn't look like a legitimate strategy and it's like mixing the old thread with new thread or pouring old wine in new bottles... the game sliders were offered to us differently for a reason.

                      I love the contact I see online and offline and would be very annoyed to see it taken away due to some innocent fixes to tweak scoring success. The physicality of the game has been a point that has been promoted and marketed as a core part of the game and I would appreciate it stay here but I know this mixing of the old with new will surely break the bottle.

                      Thanks for this opportunity to let me speak to you here Beluba. I'm going to digress from here and let the destiny of this game take its course.

                      Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk
                      My post was aimed at the removal of preset slider options, and not the vision of the game. There used to be sim sliders now there are not. There is a difference between a 50 shooting slider and one that is 40 or 45. If Beluba says that a 50 this year is equivalent to a 40 last year, then a person used to playing HOF default would have the same issue, and I would be making the exact same post disclosing the change.

                      I have no qualms with the game, and I am not complaining about the game at all. Simply stating that playing on a 50 shooting slider is different then playing on a 40, and it would be nice to be able to use the sim setting that was in 2k for years.

                      If he doesnt change it, then that is fine with me. But there shouldn't be an issue with pointing out the change and difference that the old simulation preset sliders are gone and its easier to shoot on a 50 as opposed to a 40 shooting slider.
                      Last edited by alabamarob; 09-18-2016, 10:06 AM.
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                      Youtube: 2k Hawks

                      Settings I play on.
                      Minutes: 12
                      Difficulty: HOF
                      Online or Offline player: Both
                      In a MLO: Yes

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                      • ataman5
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 2620

                        #56
                        Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

                        Originally posted by hanzsomehanz
                        I'm taken back by how readily obliged Mike is to adjust the offline and online experience basked on this threads feedback alone. I'd expect him to use his own expert knowledge and stick to his panels vision for the game.

                        It's still so soon and regarding the online experience: Mike can tweak shooting sliders specifically if he feels the results are too extremely off the Sim path. I definitely recommend a slow course to resolution and take careful time to monitor and analyze the results over a weekly basis. Small samples will always produce extremes and it's only large samples over long periods that will give has an honest plate of truth.

                        There's about 5 main heads in this thread and its shocking to think the community's fate for sliders rests on theses 5 mains heads vision for the game. The game play designer is ready to faithfully change the whole offline and online experience based on their face value recommendations? Why not work off the data you already receive that we are not privy to... this doesn't look like a legitimate strategy and it's like mixing the old thread with new thread or pouring new wine in old bottles... the game sliders were offered to us differently for a reason.

                        I love the contact I see online and offline and would be very annoyed to see it wilt away due to some innocent fixes to tweak scoring success. The physicality of the game has been a point that has been promoted and marketed as a core part of the game and I would appreciate it stay here. I know this mixing of the old with new will surely break the bottle.

                        Thanks for this opportunity to let me speak to you here, Beluba. I'm going to digress from here and let the destiny of this game take its course.

                        Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk
                        Yea i'm thinking the same as there should never be a stuff like mixing old with the new as all dynamics of these 2 games are all different. I'm sure Mike's intention is only to get some solid feedbacks rather than heavily rely on our opinions w/o looking any other data etc. so i'm confident that he's on the track of making things to a sweeter spot.

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                        • kongemeier
                          Lurking
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 1144

                          #57
                          Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

                          Originally posted by Bballintelligence
                          This year the game is about skill and you guys are begging for a slider change so the gsme can make you miss shots you're supposed to hit and make it scripted to give you a fighting chance. This is the same stuff that happens every year and Beluba just becomes a pushover when a few ask for a slider change. Thats just not right man
                          Alrighty then, Mr. Skillz'n'Intelligence. Could you please stream a game of you playing the CPU om HoF (or SS even) so I can see you keep the CPU to realistic sim shooting percentage?
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                          • Gosens6
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 6100

                            #58
                            Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

                            Originally posted by kongemeier
                            Alrighty then, Mr. Skillz'n'Intelligence. Could you please stream a game of you playing the CPU om HoF (or SS even) so I can see you keep the CPU to realistic sim shooting percentage?
                            I hate having the same discussion in two threads, but, I seem to be onto something over in the other thread discussing this..

                            Originally posted by Gosens6
                            This one hurt to lose, bad. But on the bright side, stats look fantastic and I really think I'm on to something here.

                            Game went to overtime, but at the end of regulation it was 100-100 after D'Angelo hit a 3 at the buzzer to tie the game. Probably the most fun, realistic game I've had on 2k in a long time

                            If you guys want the sliders I'm using, I'll post them here.







                            Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
                            I'll start posting my findings in this thread also the more I keep playing and tinkering. But so far, so good IMO.

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                            • kaptainkev562
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 140

                              #59
                              Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

                              This is a very critical thing being that out the box the game is fun being an strictly offline My league player. However the CPU shooting percentages are way to high on HOF or superstar default. I've been working hard to find a balance to achieve consistency where the cpu misses contested shots sometimes . I would also like to know if the CPU is driving the ball in the paint vs you guys???? Because i always seems to shot double amount of free throws as cpu as the A.I falls in love with the jumper ....Just my two cents

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                              • alabamarob
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3335

                                #60
                                Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

                                On my orginal post I should have said that shooting on hof this year is easier for guys who are used to plaging on hof sim, because all the shooting sliders are on 50 as opposed to the traditional hof sim sliders that set shooting sliders in the 40's. That was my point. My apologies for not being more specific.

                                Anything beyond that is a personal preference since there is never going to be a concensus on shooting difficulty.
                                Last edited by alabamarob; 09-18-2016, 10:31 AM.
                                Psn: Alabamarob
                                Xbox: Alabama Rob

                                Youtube: 2k Hawks

                                Settings I play on.
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                                Difficulty: HOF
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