For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

[abuC]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

No disrespect to anyone on this thread, but please stop it. I've already heard the cries for help in terms of every build. People say speed-boosting is OP, so playmakers need toned down, shooting is too good so tone down sharpshooters, shot creators make too many crazy moving shots off the so tone them down, etc. This is beautiful, every build should be OP in its own right. These builds were meant to balance out... there is a LDD build for a reason.

Every year the theme in 2k is for everyone to complain that the game is too hard, and the gameplay gets toned down to accomadate this. This game is perfect, the gameplay mechanics DO NOT NEED TONED. The people who are "cheesing" you to death are probably just good at the game. If you look at any "cheeser's" gamer card then you will probably realize that they have put several hours on several 2K games. I promise you, there is nothing "unguardable" on this game. We just have to work as a community to better our defense, or if you are still struggling, make a LDD.

2K's theme this year is supposed to be a skill gap. 2K shouldn't penalize the great players of 2K who have put in several hours to master a playstyle to lower the skill gap to players who are struggling. This is especially true for sharpshooters. No offense to anyone here, I just don't want this game to take a similar fate of taking more control of an outcome out of the users hands.

It doesn't take much skill to use sharpshooters who are you kidding? As for your comment about LDD, I have one and you actually have to know what you're doing on offense to make it work. The badges for LDD are so much harder to get than sharpshooter badges too.

We have 4 sharpshooters on our roster and we're shooting over 50% from 3, the two high volume sharpshooters are at 52% and 54%. This is broken, period.

[Chemthethriller]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

I think everyone wants to play a balanced game, at least that's what I want. I want a high IQ player of any archetype to drop 40 or 50 on me, I want to be outplayed, I want a rival.

This 100%. I can't complain when I'm simply outplayed, and I'm not talking about a 1 trick pony that can do a simple step back to create space and that's it.

I watched a guy in 2k16 destroy another team with post moves, it's like he hit everything perfect, and with that I stood in awe of him.

The problem with 2k is that everyone gravitates towards 3s in my opinion.

[laoala]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

You're telling me that a spot up shooter is better at spot up shooting than a shot creator... I'm really not seeing your point.

Because that player can green ... and the shot creator cannot ...

you are pigeonholed into that archtype because there is no amount of skill that the shot creator can possess which allows them to be more effective offensively.

[Tstone77]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

TStone - The videos you are seeing are highlights, they don't show shots that they are missing

Violence - If you were wanting to know the truth I was sugar-coating. My point was that defense is a skill and some people simply aren't good at it. I feel like the majority of the community wants offense toned down instead of holding their self accountable for their defense. I was simply stating that if people are having so much trouble, by all means make a LDD. Every build needs skill to master it. You're acting like you can just do a step back and get a green, but this is nowhere near true. Good defensive players will stay stuck to you like glue. The screen cheese is hard to guard, but it can be stopped with great team defense, I'd know because we have to guard it a lot.

Smak- your point about slashers is spot on. Slashers are the ONLY position, however, that got nerfed this year. I've seen unstoppable playmakers, unstoppable sharpshooters, even some post scorers. This game is highly skill based and it's a huge learning curve for most of the community, because 2K is not holding any hands this year. If you do one thing wrong you will pay playing against someone who knows what they're doing at any archetype, and that's how it should be. A separate point could be made that the sharpshooter build is the easiest to get good at, and that would be a valid argument, but for everyone saying that it doesn't take skill to be a sharpshooter is off center. I've played many bad sharpshooters, and I've known friends who have made new characters. This is because they thought it was going to be ...get a few HOF badges and pull up from anywhere. They learned quickly that it takes skill creating space with little ball control and having to chase people around on defense, running to spots on offense, and having to fight in transition while being the least athletic player on the court gets old really fast. My point is that if you're good at the game, you're good. All 'overpowered cheese' is counterable. These aren't the 2k11 spin dunk cheese days.

You speak of 2k not holding hands this year, while 2k has yours and every other sharpshooter hand firmly grasped. You are blinded because you feel "skillful" when the reality is that 2k has helped you, don't tell me that you think it's a coincidence that the 3's are outrageous this year...when the "best" player in the world is a 3 point guru. Now I want you to connect the dots. What player in the NBA averages 50 to 60% from the three? Your opinion is biased. That's why the only advocate for keeping 3 point shooting the same is 3 point shooters.

I watch full games(livestreams) of people playing in addition to the "highlights." Dman just dropped a video of the most arcade looking game I've ever seen, you're welcome to watch. You refute evidence and then choose to provide none to back your point

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[UravenzownU]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

This is the leading 3 pt % shooters halfway through last year

No way you should shoot over 50% from 3

[PhillyIMBlog.com]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

Because that player can green ... and the shot creator cannot ...



you are pigeonholed into that archtype because there is no amount of skill that the shot creator can possess which allows them to be more effective offensively.

Pretty sure its harder to contest a leaner than it is a spot up jumper. It feels like the people complaining have yet to master their archetypes and are jealous of ones who have.


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[Tstone77]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

This is the leading 3 pt % shooters halfway through last year

No way you should shoot over 50% from 3

If anybody argues against this. I'm just going to be done with the thread.

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[turty11]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

honestly you all should have realized in previous versions of 2k...park and pro am are for arcade basketball. its not meant to be realistic (i hope)

agreed its a major problem, but it makes 2k money (vc buyers all over the place for park/proam). no reason for them to fix it

[laoala]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

If anybody argues against this. I'm just going to be done with the thread.

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I'll give it a shot.

Sharpshooters have better ratings and badges then these players.

I would support a small increase in these numbers. But not 100%.

[turty11]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

I'll give it a shot.

Sharpshooters have better ratings and badges then these players.

I would support a small increase in these numbers. But not 100%.

you do realize curry has a 99 to all 3 of the 3pt ratings and even he isnt doing that stuff in this game

[laoala]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

you do realize curry has a 99 to all 3 of the 3pt ratings and even he isnt doing that stuff in this game

MyPlayers have access to a HOF Dimer + several more HOF badges.

I bet he could with a skilled user.

[UravenzownU]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

I'll give it a shot.

Sharpshooters have better ratings and badges then these players.

I would support a small increase in these numbers. But not 100%.

Lol sarcasm right?

[JustCallMeSleepy]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

No disrespect to anyone on this thread, but please stop it. I've already heard the cries for help in terms of every build. People say speed-boosting is OP, so playmakers need toned down, shooting is too good so tone down sharpshooters, shot creators make too many crazy moving shots off the so tone them down, etc. This is beautiful, every build should be OP in its own right. These builds were meant to balance out... there is a LDD build for a reason.

Every year the theme in 2k is for everyone to complain that the game is too hard, and the gameplay gets toned down to accomadate this. This game is perfect, the gameplay mechanics DO NOT NEED TONED. The people who are "cheesing" you to death are probably just good at the game. If you look at any "cheeser's" gamer card then you will probably realize that they have put several hours on several 2K games. I promise you, there is nothing "unguardable" on this game. We just have to work as a community to better our defense, or if you are still struggling, make a LDD.

2K's theme this year is supposed to be a skill gap. 2K shouldn't penalize the great players of 2K who have put in several hours to master a playstyle to lower the skill gap to players who are struggling. This is especially true for sharpshooters. No offense to anyone here, I just don't want this game to take a similar fate of taking more control of an outcome out of the users hands.

Your ideology isn't perfect to ME AS A SOLITARY PERSON. However I do see exactly what you mean, and I think you've got the right mindset on this. In the end, people think GSW and CLE users are trash cheesers, but that's because honestly, deep down, you combine a skilled team with a skilled user with the easiest (cheesiest) tactics, you're gonna be in for it.

Same for the builds. Put a sharpshooter into the hands of an untalented player, he's a joke that you and the squad laugh at. "Lol locked up this CHEEZY SHARPSHOOTER, LMAO PWNED" or whatever it is y'all say. But let a dude who understands and comprehends the deadliness of a sharpshooter, combined with IMPERFECT defense, you're in for a long..a**.. day..................just like in the league.

[turty11]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

Same for the builds. Put a sharpshooter into the hands of an untalented player, he's a joke that you and the squad laugh at. "Lol locked up this CHEEZY SHARPSHOOTER, LMAO PWNED" or whatever it is y'all say. But let a dude who understands and comprehends the deadliness of a sharpshooter, combined with IMPERFECT defense, you're in for a long..a**.. day..................just like in the league.

youre missing the point. a casual player can pick up a controller and drop 30+ on anyone with a sharpshooter

[Caelumfang]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

I'll just be waiting here as the OS community cries until this game turns into a brick fest. And if 2k listens, this is going to turn into final patch 2k16 with the first 2k16 shooting adjustment where we were chucking up cinder blocks.

You all literally whined the last two games into complete oblivion, to where they were no longer enjoyable to play by the last patch. I can't believe y'all are close to doing it with the third game in a row.