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  • Cwb917
    Rookie
    • Mar 2007
    • 277

    #286
    Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

    Originally posted by Csmooove32
    I haven't seen any other archetype put up numbers like this. I've watch them hit contested shots while being doubled so please I don't wanna hear "well maybe your not playing good defense".

    We have a lockdown defender on our team who constantly shoots 10/12 in games and many of those are 3s and midrange jumpers .
    Last edited by Cwb917; 09-30-2016, 10:49 AM.
    PSN: BigHerm

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    • ballin095
      Pro
      • Jan 2008
      • 536

      #287
      Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

      Ok so just played two pro am games with my sharpshooter. Pretty much what 2k did was make it so sharpshooters could not hit shots from near half-court (especially with the grand badge activated) and more importantly made it so more contested shots were activated. In other words, they made it so it takes more space for the sharpshooter to have what would be considered an "open" shot.

      Now from my small sample size I can say that this is both a good and bad thing. On one hand, you probably won't see as many steph curry's out there hitting those ridiculous contested shots from all over the court. However (and where I can see issues arising) is that even if a defender is a good 2-3 feet away from you, you will still activate that contested shot animation leading to a lower percentage shot. There were a few instances during the second game I played where one of my teammates would set a solid screen on my defender and I would have ample space to take a good shot but instead my player would take one of those contested shot animations even though he was pretty open. This may be troublesome for teams as even if a sharpshooter is coming off of a screen and has a good look to the hoop (as in real life), if the defender is even an inch away from the shooter or just got hit with the screen he may still take a contested shot animation. Unfortunately it seems that sharpshooters are going to have to rely upon more dribbling moves to get solid space as anything shot with a decent look will trigger a contested shot animation. Now this is just a small sample size but while playing I was shocked to see that my player would at times shoot as a defender was draped on him even though he was fairly open. Besides that though shooting percentages when open seem roughly the same.

      And ironically, one of the shot creators I played against dropped 42 while taking the same type of shots that people were complaining sharpshooters were making pre-patch.

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      • KingW
        Rookie
        • Sep 2015
        • 71

        #288
        Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

        This shooting tuning is live on both systems?

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        • SterlingMalloryArche
          Banned
          • Sep 2016
          • 5

          #289
          Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

          I think its kind of messd up 2k doesn't test and balance game properly, then people spend money and grind out VC, then 2k changes everything and now they have to start over having to get 100,000 VC again...

          ...all because 2k failed at testing balance.

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          • Meast21Forever
            Pro
            • Feb 2009
            • 769

            #290
            Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

            Welcome to NBA 2k17, where the attribute caps are made up and defense doesn't matter. That's right, defense is like the word ‘International’ in International House Of Pancakes.

            "I hope that someday we will be able to put way our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." Jack Handy

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            • thormessiah
              Rookie
              • Jun 2015
              • 486

              #291
              Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

              Actually because of the over-powered screens and brick wall logic you'd be better off going under the screen for shooters, especially if it's off-ball screens
              "If you ain't dead, you're alive" - Javale McGee

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              • lowsingles
                Rookie
                • Dec 2015
                • 186

                #292
                Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                Originally posted by ballin095
                Ok so just played two pro am games with my sharpshooter. Pretty much what 2k did was make it so sharpshooters could not hit shots from near half-court (especially with the grand badge activated) and more importantly made it so more contested shots were activated. In other words, they made it so it takes more space for the sharpshooter to have what would be considered an "open" shot.

                Now from my small sample size I can say that this is both a good and bad thing. On one hand, you probably won't see as many steph curry's out there hitting those ridiculous contested shots from all over the court. However (and where I can see issues arising) is that even if a defender is a good 2-3 feet away from you, you will still activate that contested shot animation leading to a lower percentage shot. There were a few instances during the second game I played where one of my teammates would set a solid screen on my defender and I would have ample space to take a good shot but instead my player would take one of those contested shot animations even though he was pretty open. This may be troublesome for teams as even if a sharpshooter is coming off of a screen and has a good look to the hoop (as in real life), if the defender is even an inch away from the shooter or just got hit with the screen he may still take a contested shot animation. Unfortunately it seems that sharpshooters are going to have to rely upon more dribbling moves to get solid space as anything shot with a decent look will trigger a contested shot animation. Now this is just a small sample size but while playing I was shocked to see that my player would at times shoot as a defender was draped on him even though he was fairly open. Besides that though shooting percentages when open seem roughly the same.

                And ironically, one of the shot creators I played against dropped 42 while taking the same type of shots that people were complaining sharpshooters were making pre-patch.
                Head on point my man. In the beginning, every build was 'op' in its own right. Everyone had to complain to the point of nerfing sharpshooters to solely spot up shooters, without realizing the other builds. Shot creators are deadly, if used properly. Same with playmakers, they are almost unguardable if the man behind the sticks knows what he's doing. So in turn what's going to happen, is that there is going to be a witch hunt on shot creators, and then playmakers, and then whatever else until every position is nerfed. In turn this destroys the skill gap. If you do everything exactly right, you still may not score. This leads to a factor of randomness in who wins the game. I know this is sometimes the case in real life, but this is an esports game... Randomness must be minimized period. The witch hunting by struggling players being taken into account by 2k must be stopped immediately.

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                • YaBoial
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 223

                  #293
                  Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                  I believe the issue with sharpshooters is that a 92 3pt cap is far to high for one. Equip that with boost and badges and it's basically 100.

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                  • Mweemwee
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 495

                    #294
                    Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                    Can someone please tell me what op means?!

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                    • Yesh2kdone
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 1412

                      #295
                      Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                      Originally posted by Mweemwee
                      Can someone please tell me what op means?!
                      Over powered

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                      • EveretteWarren
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 342

                        #296
                        Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                        They aren't even really OP. I just played with my homeboy whos a 6'0 SS PG, and he was bricking a lot. I still think this is all an over exaggeration.

                        AND NO, I'm not a sharpshooter. I'm a shot creator.

                        Which btw, when are they going to fix this shot of the dribble nonsense mannn!?

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                        • GradyMac
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 421

                          #297
                          Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                          Originally posted by Caelumfang
                          I'm glad a few of us see that this is has nothing to do with people wanting Sharpshooters nerfed. It's the shooting mechanics and the 100% greens that should have NEVER been reintroduced.
                          Time to make that shot creator...

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                          • Caelumfang
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 1218

                            #298
                            Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                            Originally posted by GradyMac
                            Time to make that shot creator...
                            Why? As long as they don't do that stupid change you all were going on about, I'm just fine with my Sharpshooter.

                            This is how I know you were never truly reading or comprehending my posts.

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                            • ruxpinke
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 908

                              #299
                              Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                              Originally posted by Caelumfang
                              Why? As long as they don't do that stupid change you all were going on about, I'm just fine with my Sharpshooter.

                              This is how I know you were never truly reading or comprehending my posts.
                              Very interested to hear your feedback after you've given it a go for a few games.
                              PSN: PrettyToney

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                              • DubyaTO
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2015
                                • 185

                                #300
                                Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                                No more 35 footers!? Awesome.

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