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  • Caelumfang
    MVP
    • Oct 2012
    • 1218

    #301
    Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

    Originally posted by ruxpinke
    Very interested to hear your feedback after you've given it a go for a few games.
    Personally? When it's not a green, the shooting feels too much like 2K16 during the early shooting adjustments. I was never a fan of 2K16's shooting mechanics. Always felt too punishing when the shot wasn't a green release. To this day, I wish they'd just go back to 2k13/2k14 shooting mechanics.

    I was never that consistent of a shooter anyway, even with a Sharpshooter (have a tendency to get slightly early and slightly late releases a LOT). I've always been more of a Shot Creator type player, except their stand still shooting was too bad for me to make one.

    Either way, I'm just kinda like 'Eh'. I'll play it until I get tired of throwing up cinder blocks, lol. Just hope this doesn't become 2K16 2.0 at the end of the day.

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    • acetheredcomet
      Rookie
      • Sep 2015
      • 178

      #302
      Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

      As long as if I am close enough with my LDD it causes the contested animation, I'll be happy. Though I do agree the contested animation coming off the screen may be a problem.

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      • laoala
        Banned
        • Sep 2016
        • 280

        #303
        Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

        always going to be problems as long as there are green releases.

        100% is just too outlandish and too obtainable for top players.

        good offense literally is meaningless, when it switches from

        "let's have a good offensive possession"

        to

        "lets find a way to get a green release or dunk"

        The skill gap should be a combination of stick skills + BBIQ. not just the former to a drastic extent.

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        • GradyMac
          Rookie
          • Nov 2012
          • 421

          #304
          Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

          Originally posted by Caelumfang
          Why? As long as they don't do that stupid change you all were going on about, I'm just fine with my Sharpshooter.

          This is how I know you were never truly reading or comprehending my posts.
          Lol, I didn't ask for a specific change. I only expressed that there needed to be a change. Which 2k agreed with.

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          • Caelumfang
            MVP
            • Oct 2012
            • 1218

            #305
            Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

            Originally posted by GradyMac
            Lol, I didn't ask for a specific change. I only expressed that there needed to be a change. Which 2k agreed with.
            And like I said countless times, they can patch the shooting all they want, but nerfing a specific archetype was the wrong answer. And the solution suggested by making every single shot count as Shoot off Dribble once the ball was on the floor, no matter the type of shot, was idiotic.

            What I'm going to find hilariously ironic is this: Since people were so concerned about Sharpshooters and shooting in general, once the patch came into effect, the whiners effectively screwed themselves in the process. If Sharpshooters start putting up cinder blocks with 90+ shooting, everyone else will be chucking up enough bricks to build entire cities with their 70 ratings, lol.

            So in the end, I can just sit back and laugh.

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            • DubyaTO
              Rookie
              • Sep 2015
              • 185

              #306
              Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

              Originally posted by Caelumfang
              And like I said countless times, they can patch the shooting all they want, but nerfing a specific archetype was the wrong answer. And the solution suggested by making every single shot count as Shoot off Dribble once the ball was on the floor, no matter the type of shot, was idiotic.

              What I'm going to find hilariously ironic is this: Since people were so concerned about Sharpshooters and shooting in general, once the patch came into effect, the whiners effectively screwed themselves in the process. If Sharpshooters start putting up cinder blocks with 90+ shooting, everyone else will be chucking up enough bricks to build entire cities with their 70 ratings, lol.

              So in the end, I can just sit back and laugh.
              My Shot Creator has done fine thus far. Not sure what you have to laugh about.

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              • hopoffthiscliff
                Rookie
                • Feb 2014
                • 316

                #307
                Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                Originally posted by Caelumfang
                And like I said countless times, they can patch the shooting all they want, but nerfing a specific archetype was the wrong answer. And the solution suggested by making every single shot count as Shoot off Dribble once the ball was on the floor, no matter the type of shot, was idiotic.

                What I'm going to find hilariously ironic is this: Since people were so concerned about Sharpshooters and shooting in general, once the patch came into effect, the whiners effectively screwed themselves in the process. If Sharpshooters start putting up cinder blocks with 90+ shooting, everyone else will be chucking up enough bricks to build entire cities with their 70 ratings, lol.

                So in the end, I can just sit back and laugh.
                Salty sharpshooter in this this thread lmao

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                • Caelumfang
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1218

                  #308
                  Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                  Originally posted by DubyaTO
                  My Shot Creator has done fine thus far. Not sure what you have to laugh about.
                  The fact that any nerf to the Sharpshooter will hit every other playstyle even harder, which makes the whining rather ironic.

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                  • Caelumfang
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1218

                    #309
                    Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                    Originally posted by hopoffthiscliff
                    Salty sharpshooter in this this thread lmao
                    What am I salty about? Nothing about the way I play or shoot, nor my efficiency, has changed one bit.

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                    • DubyaTO
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 185

                      #310
                      Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                      Originally posted by Caelumfang
                      The fact that any nerf to the Sharpshooter will hit every other playstyle even harder, which makes the whining rather ironic.
                      Not true, they could nerf Limitless range (which they did). Will have no effect on the majority of archetypes.

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                      • Caelumfang
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 1218

                        #311
                        Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                        Originally posted by DubyaTO
                        Not true, they could nerf Limitless range (which they did). Will have no effect on the majority of archetypes.
                        I'm talking overall shooting percentages and the shooting sliders. Any shooting slider adjustment Mike makes to drop our percentages is going to hit every archetype even harder as far as shooting is concerned.

                        For instance: If sliders have us shooting at best 45%-50%, and our rating is a 90+, what do you think happens to the percentage of those with shots only in the 70 range?

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                        • DubyaTO
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 185

                          #312
                          Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                          Originally posted by Caelumfang
                          I'm talking overall shooting percentages and the shooting sliders. Any shooting slider adjustment Mike makes to drop our percentages is going to hit every archetype even harder as far as shooting is concerned.

                          For instance: If sliders have us shooting at best 45%-50%, and our rating is a 90+, what do you think happens to the percentage of those with shots only in the 70 range?
                          Yeah that's true, but those changes might not be neccessary.

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                          • Caelumfang
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 1218

                            #313
                            Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                            Originally posted by DubyaTO
                            Yeah that's true, but those changes might not be neccessary.
                            It's already happening, like with the latest shooting slider adjustment. If/when Sharpshooters get hit, everyone else catches it even worse. I have no idea how good or bad it will get throughout the year, but just know any hit to Sharpshooters is a far worse blow to others.

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                            • ruxpinke
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 908

                              #314
                              Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                              Originally posted by Caelumfang
                              I'm talking overall shooting percentages and the shooting sliders. Any shooting slider adjustment Mike makes to drop our percentages is going to hit every archetype even harder as far as shooting is concerned.

                              For instance: If sliders have us shooting at best 45%-50%, and our rating is a 90+, what do you think happens to the percentage of those with shots only in the 70 range?
                              on that scale, people in the early 70s would fall around 34-38 percent. still probably a bit too high on the higher end, but fair IMO.

                              lowry, beal, morrow, frye, terrence ross are a few players who ended the season around 38 percent.
                              PSN: PrettyToney

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                              • Caelumfang
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 1218

                                #315
                                Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

                                Originally posted by ruxpinke
                                on that scale, people in the early 70s would fall around 34-38 percent. still probably a bit too high on the higher end, but fair IMO.

                                lowry, beal, morrow, frye, terrence ross are a few players who ended the season around 38 percent.
                                And you'd feel good about yourself if you were to play Pro-Am regularly, and you averaged 38% from the field as a whole? These are 5-6 minute quarters, not full 12 minute games. Each shot matters, and I doubt a good team will want to rely on people who can only average 38%.

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