For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

[Caelumfang]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

I'm a slasher, I have no business taking 3s, sir

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Mids weren't going to take a massive hit (think Mike learned his lesson from last year on that first shooting adjustment). It was going to be the 3s, which is where a lot of people are starting to build cities with all the cinder blocks being thrown up if it's not a green release, lol.

[ViolenceFight]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

Mids weren't going to take a massive hit (think Mike learned his lesson from last year on that first shooting adjustment). It was going to be the 3s, which is where a lot of people are starting to build cities with all the cinder blocks being thrown up if it's not a green release, lol.

I get that. The "mids" I'm referring to were 17-20ft 2s. But I know he's been the most aggressive in regards to the change. And I know he was trying to sarcastically prove his point with that. The difference is that I'm not foolish enough to pick a class that isn't supposed to be bombing from long range and then take those shots.

I'm questioning the tons of bricks were seeing. Are we sure it's not linked to stamina drain as well? I played pro am last night and realized just chasing the sharpshooter I was guarding around had me near sucking Gatorade by the start of the 3rd.

I can only imagine that his stamina was completely gone by that point. So I'm wondering if a lot of guys aren't taking that into account. I know you guys are smart, and I typically pay attention to it. But I lost sight of it for a minute and it was empty, so it doesn't take much for that to go and affect the shot

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[Tstone77]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

What's the shooting % post tweak for the sharpshooters?

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[PhillyIMBlog.com]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

Honestly, their hasnt been a sunny day since Beluba tweaked with the game.


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[twebb5896]

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...So that's why I went 6/7 on mids last night as a slasher?

Tuning hit yesterday morning, boss.

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Mids didn't get hit, boss. I know you have enough common sense to know what I'm talking about. Has there been a post in this thread complaining about a sharpshooters mid range game?

You were so confident too 😂

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[ViolenceFight]

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Mids didn't get hit, boss. I know you have enough common sense to know what I'm talking about. Has there been a post in this thread complaining about a sharpshooters mid range game?

You were so confident too 😂

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I'm confident because you guys are honestly blowing this out of proportion to the point that I can't tell what's hyperbolic or not. I've see little decline in the ones I've played against other than heavily contested stuff not falling. I come here and people are treating it like it's a shooters genocide.

You got Philly who's now in every thread referring to anyone that was for a change as entitled 12 year olds. Caelum is on the "you've started the apocalypse" doom sayers tip saying that suddenly no one can shoot (Which is definitely hyperbole).

You guys are ruining your argument with this stuff. Like, You bring Data. You get a sample size, and show that the switch caused you to shoot at like 20% or lower as a sharpshooter, and I bet 2k will take a look. But right now, the name calling, the aggressive behavior, and the general demeanor of these posts paints the opposite picture you want.

It makes you guys come off as the whiny children now. It makes me want to dismiss any point you make. If I was a developer, I'd look at the way you're presenting the argument and feel the same way.

Look at the lay up thread. Chuck Norris took data. He ran tests. And presented an argument and theory with data. Relentless finisher was fixed due to this. He took the complaints, compiled an actual argument with support, the devs fixed it.

How hard is it to play 20 games and look at your percentage through those? As long as you're not forcing garbage shots and your percentage still sucks that'd be more than enough to support a re evaluation, right?

But instead there's strawman arguments, name calling, and the condescension which hurts your side of this and almost invalidates it all



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[Bornindamecca]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

Yeah, these whiny ad hominem arguments should be dismissed. Bring data and footage. The 3pt success was too high across the board for multiple reasons. Show situations where you are consistently missing where you should be having success and I'll be more than happy to support that argument and share that information. What's happening right now, basically name calling, falls into the white noise that the developers do not have time to filter.

[Caelumfang]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

I'm confident because you guys are honestly blowing this out of proportion to the point that I can't tell what's hyperbolic or not. I've see little decline in the ones I've played against other than heavily contested stuff not falling. I come here and people are treating it like it's a shooters genocide.

You got Philly who's now in every thread referring to anyone that was for a change as entitled 12 year olds. Caelum is on the "you've started the apocalypse" doom sayers tip saying that suddenly no one can shoot (Which is definitely hyperbole).

You guys are ruining your argument with this stuff. Like, You bring Data. You get a sample size, and show that the switch caused you to shoot at like 20% or lower as a sharpshooter, and I bet 2k will take a look. But right now, the name calling, the aggressive behavior, and the general demeanor of these posts paints the opposite picture you want.

It makes you guys come off as the whiny children now. It makes me want to dismiss any point you make. If I was a developer, I'd look at the way you're presenting the argument and feel the same way.

Look at the lay up thread. Chuck Norris took data. He ran tests. And presented an argument and theory with data. Relentless finisher was fixed due to this. He took the complaints, compiled an actual argument with support, the devs fixed it.

How hard is it to play 20 games and look at your percentage through those? As long as you're not forcing garbage shots and your percentage still sucks that'd be more than enough to support a re evaluation, right?

But instead there's strawman arguments, name calling, and the condescension which hurts your side of this and almost invalidates it all



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Why do people always use my argument and go to the utter extreme with it, when it just takes a bit of common sense thinking to see that's not what I'm saying? Jesus...

[ViolenceFight]

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Why do people always use my argument and go to the utter extreme with it, when it just takes a bit of common sense thinking to see that's not what I'm saying? Jesus...

....You've said multiple times that we've screwed all classes out of a shot in multiple threads. It's not more extreme it's just put into context of the perception you're emitting.


In context: "They don't realize what they're doing is..."

That's basically the tag line in a horror flick right? "They don't understand the atrocities they are unleashing".

[Caelumfang]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

....You've said multiple times that we've screwed all classes out of a shot in multiple threads. It's not more extreme it's just put into context of the perception you're emitting.

I said they're going to effectively screw themselves with the constant screaming for shooting patches to stop one class, because shooting adjustments are across the board.

And what makes it worse is that shooting is literally the only thing Sharpshooters can do, and yet it seems like people want to take that away from them. Like someone said in another thread, eventually Sharpshooters are going to become Playmakers without the athleticism and playmaking if this keeps up.

Once the witch hunt is done on Sharpshooters, you know damn well this community is going to find the next class to cry about until this becomes an even MORE watered down 2k16.

[twebb5896]

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I'm confident because you guys are honestly blowing this out of proportion to the point that I can't tell what's hyperbolic or not. I've see little decline in the ones I've played against other than heavily contested stuff not falling. I come here and people are treating it like it's a shooters genocide.

You got Philly who's now in every thread referring to anyone that was for a change as entitled 12 year olds. Caelum is on the "you've started the apocalypse" doom sayers tip saying that suddenly no one can shoot (Which is definitely hyperbole).

You guys are ruining your argument with this stuff. Like, You bring Data. You get a sample size, and show that the switch caused you to shoot at like 20% or lower as a sharpshooter, and I bet 2k will take a look. But right now, the name calling, the aggressive behavior, and the general demeanor of these posts paints the opposite picture you want.

It makes you guys come off as the whiny children now. It makes me want to dismiss any point you make. If I was a developer, I'd look at the way you're presenting the argument and feel the same way.

Look at the lay up thread. Chuck Norris took data. He ran tests. And presented an argument and theory with data. Relentless finisher was fixed due to this. He took the complaints, compiled an actual argument with support, the devs fixed it.

How hard is it to play 20 games and look at your percentage through those? As long as you're not forcing garbage shots and your percentage still sucks that'd be more than enough to support a re evaluation, right?

But instead there's strawman arguments, name calling, and the condescension which hurts your side of this and almost invalidates it all



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I made one post in here, one lol don't try to group me with everyone else. I'm not saying the shooting wasn't overpowered, I'm saying that with the nerf it's not just the sharpshooters that are gonna get hit. I don't know why you took it so personally, but with you being a slasher I don't care what you have to say at all about shooting.

We're in here talking about 3 point shots, contested 3s and deep 3s and you bring up your shooting from mid-range? Your stats are as useless as anything you think you're above arguing against.

Where's your data?

6/7 from mid

Wow, so intuitive.

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[ViolenceFight]

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I made one post in here, one lol don't try to group me with everyone else. I'm not saying the shooting wasn't overpowered, I'm saying that with the nerf it's not just the sharpshooters that are gonna get hit. I don't know why you took it so personally, but with you being a slasher I don't care what you have to say at all about shooting.

We're in here talking about 3 point shots, contested 3s and deep 3s and you bring up your shooting from mid-range? Your stats are as useless as anything you think you're above arguing against.

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The fact that you think my players attributes make me useless is hilarious. It's not the attributes, it's always what you can do with them. That's where user skill comes in to play.

But once again, you throw that in as a cheap shot, and it's exactly what I just said about discrediting what you say by your actions. You come with a point, and then throw it away by how you carry yourself.

[twebb5896]

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The fact that you think my players attributes make me useless is hilarious. It's not the attributes, it's always what you can do with them. That's where user skill comes in to play.

But once again, you throw that in as a cheap shot, and it's exactly what I just said about discrediting what you say by your actions. You come with a point, and then throw it away by how you carry yourself.

ANSWER MY QUESTION? What does your mid range shooting percentage have to do with a 3 point nerf?

Should I be asking someone who doesn't shoot 3s about 3 pointers? You said it yourself in this thread that you don't. Is that not what this discussion is about?

How do you carry yourself? You try to nitpick at everyone's argument like we're in a lower division logic class. What's so sound about what you say? Where are your numbers? Where are your stats?

Oh, that's right, you don't take 3s.

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[ViolenceFight]

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ANSWER MY QUESTION? What does your mid range shooting percentage have to do with a 3 point nerf?

Should I be asking someone who doesn't shoot 3s about 3 pointers? You said it yourself in this thread that you don't. Is that not what this discussion is about?

How do you carry yourself? You try to nitpick at everyone's argument like we're in a lower division logic class. What's so sound about what you say? Where are your numbers? Where are your stats?

Oh, that's right, you don't take 3s.

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I don't because there's not a point for me to. You're going to respect my opinion because just because I don't shoot all of them, I play plenty of games with and against people who do. Enough to, once again, say you're blowing the percentages out of proportion. Or does it only count for people who run that class now?

As far as the fix, I misread the thing and read it as Mike fixed the way the game views all shots. But point still stands that the % before is unrealistic, and the deep shots/contested shots were completely ridiculous. You want to know why I'm chiming in? Because the sky ISN'T falling.

You're going to say I know nothing, but I play against enough people to know that before the patch a shooter could splash a contested half court shot in my grill consistently and now they cant, which is realistic. If you didn't just cherry pick my posts and read them, you'd know I feel like wide open is fine. And a once and awhile shot like the one described dropping is fine.

It's not fine to let a guy shoot from the opposite 3 point line, or bang home 30 footers in people's faces at a 50% or better clip. You cannot argue the last part. Not in a game pushed as a Simulation. That's why my voice matters in this thread. Hell, my voice matters period because all of our opinions matter.

[twebb5896]

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I don't because there's not a point for me to. You're going to respect my opinion because just because I don't shoot all of them, I play plenty of games with and against people who do. Enough to, once again, say you're blowing the percentages out of proportion. Or does it only count for people who run that class now?

As far as the fix, I misread the thing and read it as Mike fixed the way the game views all shots. But point still stands that the % before is unrealistic, and the deep shots/contested shots were completely ridiculous. You want to know why I'm chiming in? Because the sky ISN'T falling.

You're going to say I know nothing, but I play against enough people to know that before the patch a shooter could splash a contested half court shot in my grill consistently and now they cant, which is realistic. If you didn't just cherry pick my posts and read them, you'd know I feel like wide open is fine. And a once and awhile shot like the one described dropping is fine.

It's not fine to let a guy shoot from the opposite 3 point line, or bang home 30 footers in people's faces at a 50% or better clip. You cannot argue the last part. Not in a game pushed as a Simulation. That's why my voice matters in this thread. Hell, my voice matters period because all of our opinions matter.

No doubt the shooting was overpowered, but what I'm trying to get across is don't try to disprove my argument with something that literally has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. I bring up 3 point shooting on non shooters and you throw mid range percentages back at me. Then you try to group me with other people that I don't agree with. That's where I have an issue.

I respect your opinion, but don't try to belittle mine.

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