Any advice on scoring from the post using shotstick?

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  • Thunderhorse
    Rookie
    • Jun 2011
    • 485

    #31
    Re: Any advice on scoring from the post using shotstick?

    Originally posted by Diceman7
    Actually it was properly designed by the devs and just poor IQ by the community. I used the stick exclusively for all the post moves and have had no problems. I don't anymore because Wang dismantled the aiming system; in that there is no reward for doing it correctly. Apparently the community is too dumb to understand it. If you do a shimmy shot or just straight fadeaway the only difference is you hold R2 for the shimmy and for both you need to point RS straight down. You can create different animations for both by either faking in certain directions and changing your post position (flick and not hold RS directly from hoop); do this in combination to create the desired shot. In stepbacks out of the post you can also use the aim after you trigger the step back animation.
    Okay,

    I'm one of the people in the community too dumb to get it.

    You're saying that if I want to pull a shimmy fade to the right of the bucket, but my body is facing the left of the bucket, I have to flick away to change position - THEN activate a shimmy fade animation.

    Are you sure about this? Because I can pull a shimmy fade to the left or the right, no problem regardless of my position in relation to the bucket while in the post right now by directing the stick.

    The issue remains. It's hard to start a shimmy at one angle and then perfectly rotate no more than 90 degrees to get a centered release. It's easier to just use square but the animations aren't as smooth. If this is the intended challenge from the devs, then I welcome it. It's just hard to understand when, as someone earlier pointed out, we don't have a real manual.

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    • Jmb4life
      Rookie
      • Sep 2006
      • 201

      #32
      Re: Any advice on scoring from the post using shotstick?

      Originally posted by Diceman7
      Actually it was properly designed by the devs and just poor IQ by the community. I used the stick exclusively for all the post moves and have had no problems. I don't anymore because Wang dismantled the aiming system; in that there is no reward for doing it correctly. Apparently the community is too dumb to understand it. If you do a shimmy shot or just straight fadeaway the only difference is you hold R2 for the shimmy and for both you need to point RS straight down. You can create different animations for both by either faking in certain directions and changing your post position (flick and not hold RS directly from hoop); do this in combination to create the desired shot. In stepbacks out of the post you can also use the aim after you trigger the step back animation. Also for it be consistent you should absolute stick settings.
      Basically what you all are saying is change it back it too easy to where I can just get into the post and RS stick in any direction away from the hoop for the fade and get the result I want.
      Lol, this guy is basically saying we're too stupid to understand LMBO.
      Acts 2:38- Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

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      • Thunderhorse
        Rookie
        • Jun 2011
        • 485

        #33
        Re: Any advice on scoring from the post using shotstick?

        Originally posted by Jmb4life
        Lol, this guy is basically saying we're too stupid to understand LMBO.
        I don't know man, I'd be willing to accept that.

        It's impossible to know because there's no real manual.

        I can't help but feel like this game isn't finished.

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        • Diceman7
          Rookie
          • Sep 2016
          • 92

          #34
          Re: Any advice on scoring from the post using shotstick?

          Originally posted by Jmb4life
          Lol, this guy is basically saying we're too stupid to understand LMBO.
          Yeah I was a bit harsh. But you should use absolute stick controls if you want consistency out of the post moves. There are different animations or shots out of each based on how you fake and your positioning. The classic fadeaway is really not that good (as it should be). You have to create space somehow. Like I said stepbacks are better in my experience.

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          • Diceman7
            Rookie
            • Sep 2016
            • 92

            #35
            Re: Any advice on scoring from the post using shotstick?

            Originally posted by Thunderhorse
            Okay,

            I'm one of the people in the community too dumb to get it.

            You're saying that if I want to pull a shimmy fade to the right of the bucket, but my body is facing the left of the bucket, I have to flick away to change position - THEN activate a shimmy fade animation.

            Are you sure about this? Because I can pull a shimmy fade to the left or the right, no problem regardless of my position in relation to the bucket while in the post right now by directing the stick.

            The issue remains. It's hard to start a shimmy at one angle and then perfectly rotate no more than 90 degrees to get a centered release. It's easier to just use square but the animations aren't as smooth. If this is the intended challenge from the devs, then I welcome it. It's just hard to understand when, as someone earlier pointed out, we don't have a real manual.
            Based on what you wrote, it's clear you use camera relative. Which can be good for some things, but certainly not create different shots from the post. Using absolute is really the way to go if you play in the post a lot. The stick movements are fixed regardless of where you are on the floor. So for example with absolute settings; a shimmy is started with R2 and RS straight down always. Not pulling away from the basket as you would have to do with camera relative. Post requires the most skill really in combining moves, shots and also the up and unders. Actually one of the best moves is to start a shimmy shot and do an up and under. It looks really good and fakes people out big time.
            Last edited by Diceman7; 10-14-2016, 01:29 AM.

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            • Thunderhorse
              Rookie
              • Jun 2011
              • 485

              #36
              Re: Any advice on scoring from the post using shotstick?

              Originally posted by Diceman7
              Based on what you wrote, it's clear you use camera relative.
              No, you're not following, perhaps I have been unclear.

              If my player is on the left side of the court. I can perform a shimmy fade that leans to my left (absolute) by holding L2 + R2 and pushing the right stick to the left. If my player's left shoulder is closest to the bucket, he will turn and his fade will lean to the left of the original spot. I can do the same thing to the right, and he will perform a different fade animation but will not turn. If you want to do this, you have to hold the stick away from the bucket (Down in absolute) and to the left or the right of that angle. If your right analog stick is to high you will perform a shimmy hook instead.

              If I followed you correctly, You're assertion was that the proper technique is to first flick the stick away (down in absolute) to flip your shoulders, Then pull the shimmy fade animation directly down in conjunction with other moves.

              This doesn't seem logical (to me) because we're adding extra steps. I can pull that move with one step (L2+R2 + Right Stick Left) in comparison with what I perceive to be your assertion ((L2 + Right Stick Away) + (L2+R2 +Right Stick Down))

              The more I test it, the more it seems the best strategy is to wait until the animation begins - then do your best to rotate the right analog stick for a centered shot.

              I haven't used Camera Relative since 15.

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              • Jmb4life
                Rookie
                • Sep 2006
                • 201

                #37
                Re: Any advice on scoring from the post using shotstick?

                I am most comfortable using Camera Relative and I play on broadcast cam as well. I shouldn't be punished and forced to change my controller settings because of a poorly implemented and poorly explained shot stick mechanic. I guess next someone will tell me to switch to 2K cam along with absolute R stick settings.
                I've always used camera relative and I'm definitely not switching to absolute after finally getting comfortable with the dribbling mechanic on camera relative. Give me a break 2k.
                Acts 2:38- Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

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