2K18 - one wish: no more cut-scenes.

[EveretteWarren]

Re: 2K18 - one wish: no more cut-scenes.

Or at least just make them skippable. I don't mind them

[fluent2332]

Re: 2K18 - one wish: no more cut-scenes.

Don't really agree with this at all but that's okay.

Your last point is really far off IMO, I'm not sure if we're playing the same game but the cutscenes aren't really that long IMO other than maybe the first couple. The majority of this mode is playing ball on the court or doing practices.

With the core basis of it being a very silly storyline, cringe-worthy cut-scenes and a bunch of malarky. I understand it's for young kids and all but that's why I think they should just make and market 2 different games. One sim game, one soap opera game. Everyone would be happy and they could even share resources, etc., between the games.

[KingTocco]

Re: 2K18 - one wish: no more cut-scenes.

Making two separate versions of the game makes no sense financially, marketing-wise, and a myriad of other reasons. They will probably continue with the story path because a lot of people do like it and it makes this sports game different than a lot of others for this reason. FIFA just started doing something similar this year with their Journey mode.

A lot of people on here are vocal about not liking it just as they are on Reddit. I would caution that usually people that are unhappy with a product or with specific features are more vocal and/or willing to complain. People that are enjoying it are usually spending their time playing it. Just offering some insight as I have some experience in that realm.

I do think the cutscenes should be skippable at the very least.

[SirGaryColeman]

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Idk what the hell this guy is talking about. The cutscenes add immersion, plain and simple. I like a product that takes presentation seriously.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic?

How is it immersive if they're talking about me and Justice Young even though he's not on my team any more? That is the definition of BREAKING immersion.

[SirGaryColeman]

Re: 2K18 - one wish: no more cut-scenes.

Making two separate versions of the game makes no sense financially, marketing-wise, and a myriad of other reasons. They will probably continue with the story path because a lot of people do like it and it makes this sports game different than a lot of others for this reason. FIFA just started doing something similar this year with their Journey mode.

What about people like me that just want to play online in Park and Pro-Am? I don't wanna play the "story" (just a bunch of regular season games with some cut scenes), but I have to in order to level up.

Story-wise, the modes are already separate... it doesn't make sense that I'm an NBA player playing in a park and pro-am league - none of it really makes any kind of sense.

The only way it makes sense is if you're hoping I'll hate MyCareer so much that I'll buy VC in order to shorten the experience of it.

[fluent2332]

Re: 2K18 - one wish: no more cut-scenes.

Making two separate versions of the game makes no sense financially, marketing-wise, and a myriad of other reasons. They will probably continue with the story path because a lot of people do like it and it makes this sports game different than a lot of others for this reason. FIFA just started doing something similar this year with their Journey mode.

A lot of people on here are vocal about not liking it just as they are on Reddit. I would caution that usually people that are unhappy with a product or with specific features are more vocal and/or willing to complain. People that are enjoying it are usually spending their time playing it. Just offering some insight as I have some experience in that realm.

I do think the cutscenes should be skippable at the very least.

Bro, it makes plenty of sense to make 2 games. They can use one pool of resources so they don't have to double the amount of needed asset creation. The point is, the MyCareer has gotten so huge to the point that it could justify its own game. In that own game it would be a lot deeper than it even is possible now if they have a separate or split team working on that side of the game exclusively. Then the other game could be a simple simulation basketball game with online modes but if you need that MyCareer/Park stuff you can mess with the other game.

I've felt for awhile now that they are cramming too many modes and too much "stuff" into one game.

[kobe2theMAX]

Re: 2K18 - one wish: no more cut-scenes.

When I play a sports a game I have NO interest in watching a movie either. It's a total bore and a waste of time in a sports game. Let's just play the game already, not watch the game.

[ph33]

Re: 2K18 - one wish: no more cut-scenes.

Bro, it makes plenty of sense to make 2 games. They can use one pool of resources so they don't have to double the amount of needed asset creation. The point is, the MyCareer has gotten so huge to the point that it could justify its own game. In that own game it would be a lot deeper than it even is possible now if they have a separate or split team working on that side of the game exclusively. Then the other game could be a simple simulation basketball game with online modes but if you need that MyCareer/Park stuff you can mess with the other game.

I've felt for awhile now that they are cramming too many modes and too much "stuff" into one game.

I don't think making 2 separate basketball games by the same company is as easy as you think it might be.

[DatGuy12x2]

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I don't mind the cutscenes. If they are there, I'll watch them. I won't miss them if they take em out, but it does break up the monotony of game, practice, repeat.

I understand why people wouldn't want them though.

They should give two options when starting my career, letting you choose whether or not to play with cutscenes. I seen someone say two separate games, I think that would be a stretch. I don't see a problem with letting people choose though.


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[fluent2332]

Re: 2K18 - one wish: no more cut-scenes.

I don't think making 2 separate basketball games by the same company is as easy as you think it might be.

But I think we won't know until it's done. 2K has money, resources, etc. All I'm saying is that the MyCareer mode has already taken on a life of its own. It's one of the biggest things going in sports video gaming. Not to mention the Park is taking off in a big way as well. If they really want to take that aspect of the game to the next level they're going to have to invest in it as a separate game.

The 2 games could share assets, animations, etc. etc. They don't literally have to build each from the ground up. Just either split the current team or add new members, make 2 teams and let each focus on each individual aspect of the game with some crossover. Let the MyCareer guys flesh that out to the maximum using the same engine as the other game, etc., and then let the sim offline/online matchmaking modes in the other game do their thing as well. It could be difficult, yes, but 2K is no doubt making a killing off their game for the past 6 years at least. If anyone could do it it would be them.

It's probably wishful thinking but I would like to see it just to get a decent, basic sports sim basketball game that focuses on the realistic gameplay more and doesn't have to cater to the Park/MyCareer type guys. Nothing against them but 2K is trying to balance to 2 different fan groups and they might be better off just making 2 games.

[swac07]

Re: 2K18 - one wish: no more cut-scenes.

At the very least, let me skip it

This would be the most feasible solution for those that like the cut scenes and those that don't

[RickyRubio9]

Re: 2K18 - one wish: no more cut-scenes.

Agree. I dont want more movies or stupid nicknames. I just want a normal MC being drafted playing the full rookie season etc.

Last year i skip 2k16 because i knew you can't play all the rookie season.

[wisdom]

Re: 2K18 - one wish: no more cut-scenes.

i will say no more badges & practise

[Durrrtyred]

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How do you guys expect them to make 2 separate games when its hard for them to correctly make one without problems...if they made 2 games both would be $60 each

[wombatvvv]

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Fluent: it's unrealistic to make two games just from a fiscal, marketing perspective. Even if it's a good idea, "the suites" won't allow it. Splitting the profits between two products for twice the development work. They're not interested in making everyone happy, they're interested in making the best profit.

As far as the other stuff, it seems most people agree with my original post, and those that don't do not really understand what I'm saying.

To be clear, I like the career mode. I don't even mind the VC and all that. It's not the career mode I don't like, it's the cut-scenes.

Fun games are open-ended games. They're games where the player controls what is happening. They're games that might play out totally differently every time you play. Fun games make you feel like you in a real, living, breathing world, populated by people who will react intelligently and realistically to your actions.

The cut-scenes stop that from happening because by their nature they have to be scripted. Seriously. Make yourself 5'7 and 300lbs. Play a career and intentionally turn the ball over every single time you touch it in college. When for some insane reason you're still drafted in the first round into the NBA and for insane reasons get selected to play for Team USA (I am actually Australian btw) against Australia, do your best to lose the game. Run out of bounds with it every time you touch it. Be a total hog and shoot it from behind half court every time you get it. Guess what? You're still "The Pres". Justice will still be jaded that you're talking to an agent about shoe deals before even playing a game. The commentators will still talk about you like you're Michael Jordan. You'll still get offered shoe deals. You'll still eventually make friends with Justice and go out for Tacos. That girl for some self-loathing reason will still be romantically interested in you. The whole silly, stilted story will still play out exactly like it did the first time.

How is that fun? How does that add immersion? If you think that's fun and immersive you may as well watch them all back-to-back on YouTube. You'll have exactly the same amount of control about how they play out. It's the opposite to immersive. It's makes you feel like you have absolute zero control over your "My Career" ... and guess what? You don't.

So to be clear, what I'm saying is I like My Career. Or at-least the idea of it. But their inexplicable decision to keep injecting a linear, stilted, scripted Soap Opera into it is ruining it. Make a My Career actually your career. Your career. A story that you control. A story that turns out different depending on what you do. But they can't do that with cutscenes because they'd have to make a million cut-scenes that make sense for any of the million different things you might choose to do. The solution? Scrap the cut-scenes. I'd rather have an open-ended story that "tells itself" with zero cutscenes over a scripted story that has nothing to do with what I'm doing in the game with cut scenes..