3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

[rossi45]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

Nothing is ruined lol. If you get a good pass and shoot from 3 with a sharp you can still green it even from limitless range. Its just much harder.

Its just the go to tactics of a sharp running around the brickwall is not reliable anymore because there no sharpshooter badges come into play.
And thats how it should be. The game is just so much better than it was before.#

Playmaker and Shot creator don't hit greens from there also, but they still score about 50% from top of the key easily!

So I am excited to what Mikes going to do today, but I guess it will bring back all this stuff like sharps sprinting around brickwalls and shoot lights out from 3.
Playmakers running around brickwalls and shooting greens all day from top of the key also.

Enjoyed this game more than the whole year yesterday, my percentages were just fine. Midrange and corner totally easy, long threes still falling, just not that reliable because of rare greens. Thats how it should've been the whole time, but I guess the community doesn't appreciate shooting percentages being lower than 70% from limitless range.

[rossi45]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

It didn't ruin spot up shooters. It ruined Sharpshooters who think they're playmakers/shot creators who try to be scoring gawds. Offenses built for catch and shoots by Sharpshooters are still perfectly fine. Dribble cheesers doing hop backs into limitless range green light threes aren't fine.

THIS! It ruined the cheapest and cheesiest tactics playing a sharp totally abusing the fact that you can green as soon as you enter the hashmark level on courts.
Also it destroyed the playmakers who did the same pick and roll tactic over and over in pro am shooting from three after a brickwall.

[Johnnythelegend]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

Mike don't change it back please !

[sk8board]

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http://www.operationsports.com/forum...oter-nerf.html

One of the first topics to pop up, check the first post date. There were a couple more, especially one that got to be REALLY long, but I can't remember the name of it.

But yeah, IMO, the archetype thing was a bad idea to begin with, because I foresaw everyone whine and crying about every other archetype until it would turn into a nerf-fest. Unfortunately for all of us, I was right. Hopefully it won't be more of the same next year, but I doubt that.

EDIT: Found it: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...rs-not-op.html

let's be realistic here archetypes were a terrible idea for us. 2k loves them. Think of how many people went and made a sharpshooter when they were unguardable only to get nerfed the second they got their badges. same applies to playmakers. 2K is laughing right now because one VC still slow down they just nerves everything until you make a new archetype. Think of how many people said hey I'm just going to make a non sharpshooter player and Max out his three-pointer to 60 only to have his abilities is taken away. now they have a useless player because those attribute upgrades are meaningless.

The truth is 2K has turned us against each other when they are the ones who keep screwing us over with these nerfs and this archetype system that honestly they get away with because everyone wants to say 2K17 was a big beta

The truth is they keep changing stuff like this just so they can keep making vc at the end of the day

[3304Life]

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I only play MyCareer so I don't really know much about the whole online aspect of it but I'm fine wth the change, as a point forward with 70 three point rating I was hitting 48% so far, with no team mates with Dimer and with low team chemistry, in my fourth season. That's ridiculous. I can only imagine (well, I've seen videos) how ridiculous it must have been in the Park and Pro-Am with guys who illegitimately boosted their badges shooting 70-80% on threes.

The whole concept of the green release doesn't even matter. Why does everyone care that you can't get them as much now. They should be hard to get, they're a guaranteed make. Back in older 2Ks, perfect timing and quality was still a miss sometimes, I think people are either new to the series or just forgot about that. If you can still hit over 40% (you know, the standard for an exceptional three point shooter in REAL basketball) then I don't see the problem.


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[RickyRubio9]

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I only play MyCareer so I don't really know much about the whole online aspect of it but I'm fine wth the change, as a point forward with 70 three point rating I was hitting 48% so far, with no team mates with Dimer and with low team chemistry, in my fourth season. That's ridiculous. I can only imagine (well, I've seen videos) how ridiculous it must have been in the Park and Pro-Am with guys who illegitimately boosted their badges shooting 70-80% on threes.

The whole concept of the green release doesn't even matter. Why does everyone care that you can't get them as much now. They should be hard to get, they're a guaranteed make. Back in older 2Ks, perfect timing and quality was still a miss sometimes, I think people are either new to the series or just forgot about that. If you can still hit over 40% (you know, the standard for an exceptional three point shooter in REAL basketball) then I don't see the problem.


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What shooting are you using mate?¿ I have a SG Playmaker with 74 and only a 37% for three. Thanks.

[3304Life]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

I use Klay Thompson on the quickest release. It doesn't feel as smooth after the tweak though but I don't mind.


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[Luke Skywalker]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

Good update.

[Leasim96]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

Guess I'll weigh in as a member of thr LDD brotherhood...

In all honesty, I would have rather seen tweeks to badges.

- Limitless needed a nerf (not make it useless, but bring it back to a more reasonable distance).

- Pick Dodger to allow hof-ers to not drop against Brick Walls

- Chase Down and Charge Card to actually mean something.

- Give the Post badges a use outside of hof.

In general, I think the mechanics of the game just need to put offense and defense on equal footing and then all the 'non-shooting' archetypes hitting 3s will not occur unless open (which I'm okay with).

Yea i agree - have said that multiple times - i did feel that overall defense felt better though - which affects multiple scenarios including badge related ones. We'll see. Looks like some others saw changes as well so i'm pretty sure it's not placebo. Gonna play more games today just to make sure.

They pretty much treated 2k17 as a big beta test - including this tweaks to sliders - so hopefully they take everything being said and fix it for 2k18. Best we can hope for by now from an overall perspective. Cause i doubt their making more tweaks to things like badges etc.

[alabamarob]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

Its to easy to shoot again. A slight up in 3 was all that was needed not this big of a change. It must be a hard thing to balance. I was getting green jumpers with Dwight Howard. I prefer yesterday over this, if there is no middle ground. 80 plus 3 point guys should be from 35 to 45 percent on Wide Open 3s.

[3304Life]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

This is the kind of stuff that has ruined FIFA. It was a great title, and then pay to win with Ultimate Team became huge and publishers will satisfy primarily those who are paying them the most. MyCareer guys don't for the most part, MyGM and MyLeague guys definitely don't. But MyPark, Pro Am and MyTeam guys? They line the pockets, so if they wanna hit 90% on jumpers every game then they get their wish. The rest of us, at least MyCareer where there are no sliders just suffer with it.


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[stillfeelme]

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Green release automatic 100% has ruined the game development. That is my opinion though. They have no way to balance the shooting for offline, online user vs. CPU myplayer,park pro am.

The tweaks they made sort of nerfed the above the break 3's wings. It was like playing a different game. This is the space where a lot good shooters and floppy plays end at. They have to just cap the success rate for green release in 2k18. This is based on the multiple games I played on Saturday.

[rossi45]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

So, I played my first walkon after the newest tuning. Taken my sharpshooter sf to see how it will go from deep.
Shot 17/23, 11/15 3pt shot going for 51 points. Was able to shoot lights out like it was before the patch.

No more words needed. I'm disappointed in this recent tuning. It's too easy for me as a sharp to green it.

I'm going to take my SF Point forward and try out how it is with a 72 3point shot.
After this I'm going to take my Slasher and see what about 58. But I'm not positive at all. I guess these archetypes will shoot lights out like it was before also.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

So, I played my first walkon after the newest tuning. Taken my sharpshooter sf to see how it will go from deep.
Shot 17/23, 11/15 3pt shot going for 51 points. Was able to shoot lights out like it was before the patch.

No more words needed. I'm disappointed in this recent tuning. It's too easy for me as a sharp to green it.

I'm going to take my SF Point forward and try out how it is with a 72 3point shot.
After this I'm going to take my Slasher and see what about 58. But I'm not positive at all. I guess these archetypes will shoot lights out like it was before also.

So the game was enjoyable for one day. I feel like the green releases are almost a mental addiction. It feels good and now the masses want to see it more often. Too often.

[Leasim96]

Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

So, I played my first walkon after the newest tuning. Taken my sharpshooter sf to see how it will go from deep.
Shot 17/23, 11/15 3pt shot going for 51 points. Was able to shoot lights out like it was before the patch.

No more words needed. I'm disappointed in this recent tuning. It's too easy for me as a sharp to green it.

I'm going to take my SF Point forward and try out how it is with a 72 3point shot.
After this I'm going to take my Slasher and see what about 58. But I'm not positive at all. I guess these archetypes will shoot lights out like it was before also.

Very dissapointing to hear - will have to test it myself later