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  • 3ShowTime2
    Rookie
    • Apr 2017
    • 379

    #196
    Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

    Originally posted by jackzagal
    This "microtransaction bubble" might explode sooner than later...
    It will yes im pretty sure. 2k is clearly crossing the line with 2k18 in terms of VC and microtransactions. Not showing you how you look with a new haircut is scamming at its best...

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    • MrWrestling3
      MVP
      • May 2015
      • 1146

      #197
      Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

      Originally posted by Hustle Westbrook
      Oh my...I can't even see my hair or beard style before I purchase it. SMH!
      I saw this mentioned in another thread...go into the regular (non career mode) CAP and make a throwaway player real quick, you can use him to see what the hair/beard styles look like, then go back into My Career and purchase the one(s) you liked.

      Yes, it's annoying and roundabout; but at least you can see what you want and what it looks like before blindly wasting VC on something it turns out you don't like.

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      • ph33
        MVP
        • Oct 2014
        • 3261

        #198
        Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

        Originally posted by 3ShowTime2
        It will yes im pretty sure. 2k is clearly crossing the line with 2k18 in terms of VC and microtransactions. Not showing you how you look with a new haircut is scamming at its best...
        My friend mentioned that if you reset your hair you have to buy the same hairstyle again.

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        • lilteapot
          MVP
          • Aug 2013
          • 4550

          #199
          Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

          Lmao 2k is shameless.

          Not showing you what the ratings for your archetype are, is pretty bad.
          But not showing you what your HAIRSTYLE will look like and FORCING you to buy it, baahaha, that's just blatant money grubbing.

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          • MoodMuzik
            Rookie
            • Jul 2013
            • 496

            #200
            Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

            No mention of us starting at a 60 instead of a 55 overall like years past? That's tens of thousands of VC jump before plugging in the game lol.

            And not knowing the hairstyle you like sounds more like a personal issue than a sinister vc 2k grab. Do you like mohawks? No/Yes? "Click".

            Also... seeing TONS OF 60/61'S btw.
            Last edited by MoodMuzik; 09-15-2017, 01:30 PM.

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            • MoodMuzik
              Rookie
              • Jul 2013
              • 496

              #201
              Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

              Originally posted by nddot
              He didnt. He just said that rpg/mmo based games has a way to allow you to reset your attributes and since 2k is pretending to go that route, they should have a similar system but hey VC >>>>>>>>> *


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              Could you do that in Elder Scrolls Online?

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              • infam0us
                MVP
                • Jan 2009
                • 1607

                #202
                Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

                Originally posted by MoodMuzik
                No mention of us starting at a 60 instead of a 55 overall like years past? That's tens of thousands of VC jump before plugging in the game lol.

                And not knowing the hairstyle you like sounds more like a personal issue than a sinister vc 2k grab. Do you like mohawks? No/Yes? "Click".

                Also... seeing TONS OF 60/61'S btw.
                Come on man, two of those cropped haircuts are freaking fades. They cant even label cuts properly.

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                • MoodMuzik
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 496

                  #203
                  Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

                  Originally posted by infam0us
                  Come on man, two of those cropped haircuts are freaking fades. They cant even label cuts properly.
                  But that's not a tech department issue... that's a VC corporate call that they intended to make to force people to spend money?

                  That's a huge stretch.

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                  • nddot
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 611

                    #204
                    NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

                    Originally posted by MoodMuzik
                    Could you do that in Elder Scrolls Online?


                    Well yeah. You gotta find some shrines in some of the major cities in the game.

                    Can you put down your cape for a sec and admit that some of these changes are purely, motivated by "greed" ? or shady? Not fair to the customer ?[emoji848]


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                    Last edited by nddot; 09-15-2017, 02:28 PM.
                    "I just wanna be heaaaaaaaaard"

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                    • iTofu
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 293

                      #205
                      Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

                      Originally posted by MoodMuzik
                      No mention of us starting at a 60 instead of a 55 overall like years past? That's tens of thousands of VC jump before plugging in the game lol.
                      Given that the rating you're given in MyCareer is not representative of the overall rating you'd get for the same attribute ratings in a roster, I don't think that's a valid argument.

                      @iTofutastic
                      PSN: iTofutastic

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                      • jonm1010
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 54

                        #206
                        Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

                        Originally posted by nddot
                        Well yeah. You gotta find some shrines in some of the major cities in the game.

                        Can you put down your cape for a sec and admit that some of these changes are purely motivated by "greed" ? or shady? Not fair to the customer ?[emoji848]


                        Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                        I mean it shouldn't be this hard to recognize what they are doing.

                        They are employing the same sort of dirty tricks that F2P games use to capitalize on addictive personalities. Those subset of customers that will drop a ton of money on their game. While structuring the core game in such a way(elongating the grind, hiding more and more things behind currency walls, making it impossible to compete in certain modes competitively without investing real money) to elicit transactions from the larger community, just on a smaller scale then the addicts. Where attaining real world currency for the developer is baked into the core gameplay loop they are designing. Heck, just look at the app they signal everyone to go to to get a few extra VC a day. An app set up as a blatant F2P cash grab that tries to fish you in on that platform as well.

                        This is why it is unhealthy to have a market space with few, if any competitors like the NBA and NFL market does.

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                        • MrWrestling3
                          MVP
                          • May 2015
                          • 1146

                          #207
                          Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

                          Originally posted by jonm1010
                          I mean it shouldn't be this hard to recognize what they are doing.

                          They are employing the same sort of dirty tricks that F2P games use to capitalize on addictive personalities. Those subset of customers that will drop a ton of money on their game. While structuring the core game in such a way(elongating the grind, hiding more and more things behind currency walls, making it impossible to compete in certain modes competitively without investing real money) to elicit transactions from the larger community, just on a smaller scale then the addicts. Where attaining real world currency for the developer is baked into the core gameplay loop they are designing. Heck, just look at the app they signal everyone to go to to get a few extra VC a day. An app set up as a blatant F2P cash grab that tries to fish you in on that platform as well.

                          This is why it is unhealthy to have a market space with few, if any competitors like the NBA and NFL market does.
                          I've been saying similar for a while now.

                          I can understand it (begrudingly) as it relates to the online community, it's become a pretty common feature in most games which feature competitive multiplayer.

                          This business with stripping down the Create A Player suite, and the design decisions within a featured offline mode(My Career) which clearly seem constructed to increasingly heavily disincentivize earning currency through offline play in each successive iteration however,is getting out of hand.

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                          • newhere
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 32

                            #208
                            Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

                            Wow. Just realized that this was by design. I thought maybe it's just because it's like your throwaway look that you will not have access to more than 4 haircuts, no facial hair and no sculpting and what not and that you'd get it once you actually start MyCareer properly but all this is locked away too? Wow. That is massively shady.

                            How on earth can you lock all that away? I mean last year people could argue that it's all extra but since when is having the option to customize your appearance in the most basic way optional in a game that costs between 50 and 100 bucks? That's bad. I don't even know what to say honestly. It might even be grounds for legal action since it wasn't advertised anywhere and it basically means you get half a game.

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                            • Fuimus Troes
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 266

                              #209
                              Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

                              Originally posted by newhere
                              Wow. Just realized that this was by design. I thought maybe it's just because it's like your throwaway look that you will not have access to more than 4 haircuts, no facial hair and no sculpting and what not and that you'd get it once you actually start MyCareer properly but all this is locked away too? Wow. That is massively shady.

                              How on earth can you lock all that away? I mean last year people could argue that it's all extra but since when is having the option to customize your appearance in the most basic way optional in a game that costs between 50 and 100 bucks? That's bad. I don't even know what to say honestly. It might even be grounds for legal action since it wasn't advertised anywhere and it basically means you get half a game.
                              Please. Grounds for legal action...sigh...

                              Modes are OPTIONAL. Prerelease information is not some guaranteed right we have, and unless 2K is actually, factually contradicting itself as it relates to prerelease VC, it's all just tough luck.

                              To be clear, I HATEwithahatethatburnslikehellfire VC, DD in the Show, MUT, ALL the microtransaction/card collecting/marketplace CRAP that has taken over sports video games. But it's here, and it's not going anywhere. I just ignore it, play franchise, and lament that that mode is going the way of the dinosaur because of it.

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                              • newhere
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 32

                                #210
                                Re: NBA 2k18 - Another VC grind fest?

                                Originally posted by Fuimus Troes
                                Please. Grounds for legal action...sigh...

                                Modes are OPTIONAL. Prerelease information is not some guaranteed right we have, and unless 2K is actually, factually contradicting itself as it relates to prerelease VC, it's all just tough luck.

                                To be clear, I HATEwithahatethatburnslikehellfire VC, DD in the Show, MUT, ALL the microtransaction/card collecting/marketplace CRAP that has taken over sports video games. But it's here, and it's not going anywhere. I just ignore it, play franchise, and lament that that mode is going the way of the dinosaur because of it.
                                It's false advertising. At least in Germany that is grounds for legal action. I'm sorry but for a full prized game you can reasonably expect certain things. If these things get locked behind a paywall and that is not mentioned anywhere that is false advertising.

                                Anyway... I can't even play franchise mode like I want since they, for some reason, decided not to allow you to use custom rosters in MyGM.

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