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  • daveberg
    MVP
    • Sep 2008
    • 2788

    #136
    Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

    Originally posted by LeBronistheKing
    Right. Is the alternate pinstripes jersey shown in the video the same one from 2k16 to 2k17 or is it an improved version? Because it looks pretty good in the video.
    Looks to be improved. Comparing to my 2k16 pic below, the jersey in the new All Time team video seems to have better placement for both the Bulls writing and the jersey number.....
    Attached Files
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    NBA 2K Retro Hoops gameplay

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    • LeBronistheKing
      MVP
      • Aug 2010
      • 1040

      #137
      Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

      Also. Noticing that Rodman is also on the All time Spurs, I hope that they don't just use the 96 Rodman player model and hair, and instead either give him the "Demolition Man" blonde Mohawk look or just an all blonde, red or green hair.

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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29807

        #138
        Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

        Originally posted by LeBronistheKing
        Also. Noticing that Rodman is also on the All time Spurs, I hope that they don't just use the 96 Rodman player model and hair, and instead either give him the "Demolition Man" blonde Mohawk look or just an all blonde, red or green hair.


        I get that he's one of the best rebounders of all time and makes a good addition to the Spurs team, but I'm kinda surprised they picked him for the Spurs given how his time with the team played out.


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        • LeBronistheKing
          MVP
          • Aug 2010
          • 1040

          #139
          Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

          Sprewell for the All time Warriors should be bald or with short hair. Hoping that Sprewell got an upgrade anyway even his Minnesota player model. Especially with the inclusion of the 99 Knicks.

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          • antdoggydogg
            Rookie
            • Sep 2011
            • 610

            #140
            Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

            Originally posted by theme1982
            Whats with the long necks in NBA 2k18??? Once you see it you can't unsee it
            I wish I didn't read this haha, you're right.

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            • VDusen04
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2003
              • 13034

              #141
              Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

              Originally posted by LeBronistheKing
              Also. Noticing that Rodman is also on the All time Spurs, I hope that they don't just use the 96 Rodman player model and hair, and instead either give him the "Demolition Man" blonde Mohawk look or just an all blonde, red or green hair.
              I concur (I feel like we may have discussed this in another thread). I imagine there will be little variation between players like Latrell and Dennis (same version copied in many cases). Anyway, for the sake of reference, I'd prefer:

              1) Demolition Man



              2) Solid Pink



              3) Solid Yellow



              4) Solid Green


              I imagine our best bet is we'll get a solid yellow version on San Antonio... or whatever they used for Chicago copied on over.

              Originally posted by ojandpizza
              I get that he's one of the best rebounders of all time and makes a good addition to the Spurs team, but I'm kinda surprised they picked him for the Spurs given how his time with the team played out.
              I'm guessing he made sense considering 2K's limitations. If they could pick from any single player at their leisure, then maybe they pull James Silas, Larry Kenon, and even Alvin Robertson.

              As it stands, once you see them getting down to the Vinny Del Negros, Danny Greens, and old Robert Horrys of the world, I interpreted that as a sign that they were taking what they could get. In that case, Dennis Rodman fits. Things ended poorly and his stint was relatively brief, but he was an asset when he was engaged. And as a 90's Spurs fan, I'm kind of glad to see him on the roster just in terms of his iconic stature.

              Originally posted by LeBronistheKing
              Sprewell for the All time Warriors should be bald or with short hair. Hoping that Sprewell got an upgrade anyway even his Minnesota player model. Especially with the inclusion of the 99 Knicks.
              Latrell Sprewell hair reference:

              Young Warriors Latrell:



              Coming of Age All-Star Warriors Latrell:



              Knicks Cornrows Latrell:



              Timberwolves Latrell:

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              • aloncho11
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2010
                • 3708

                #142
                Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

                Originally posted by VDusen04
                I concur (I feel like we may have discussed this in another thread). I imagine there will be little variation between players like Latrell and Dennis (same version copied in many cases). Anyway, for the sake of reference, I'd prefer:

                1) Demolition Man



                2) Solid Pink



                3) Solid Yellow



                4) Solid Green


                I imagine our best bet is we'll get a solid yellow version on San Antonio... or whatever they used for Chicago copied on over.
                In 2k11, the structure of the cyberface file used in Creating a Legend mode was designed to be progressive. You started playing with MJ and his 1986 face, then by year 5, the game jumped to the 1989-1992 face, by year 9 to the 1993-1995 face, and by year 12 to the 1996-98 face (1 face file, with a 4 face progression).

                Dennis is the perfect candidate to have a "progressive face" that changes from game to game (much like NBA live used to do in the late 90s). 2K have already implemented this type of progression (actually "randomness") with accessories for 2K18, and this is something that is certainly within reach given that 2K had this implemented in old gen.

                They could start with Dennis as an experiment for 2K18, and then perhaps for the future implement more "progressive" faces for players who usually have variations in their hair (length, style) and facial hair (length, style). In the end, it consists of 1 main cyberface file with 4 or 5 extra sub-cyberfaces that work within modes, in some cases it will work in all game modes, in others it will only work for association, regular season or special career modes.

                An example of a progressive face is Scottie Pippen as a Bull. He had a buzz cut and was clean shaven in his rookie season. From his rookie season up to the 1992 regular season he remained clean shaven and had a varying high top fade. From the 1992 playoffs to the 1993 finals, he alternated between clean shaven and a thin mustache. From 1994 to 1998, he alternated between clean shaven, thin mustache and goatee (and also had a mini afro look during 1995 and his first few games in 1998).
                Only respectable people deserve respect, you destroyed the game.

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                • OTMax
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2017
                  • 239

                  #143
                  Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

                  Hope Rodman has blue / pink / red / purple since he has blond and green w the Bulls, but that's nitpicking. With regards to Olajuwon and probably others, I seriously want to know how it's possible he looks WORSE than in 2k12, much worse actually! He looked great in 12, other classics as well and I get PS4 is different technology but shouldn't that give them more possibilities to make classics look BETTER?! They have a whole CAP system in which we can probably create a better look, so how come 2k can't? Also they should give MJ's 2k17 look, the cross eyed one, to Maxwell. The crazy eyes actually match better with his look

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                  • GisherJohn24
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 4603

                    #144
                    Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

                    Originally posted by OTMax
                    Hope Rodman has blue / pink / red / purple since he has blond and green w the Bulls, but that's nitpicking. With regards to Olajuwon and probably others, I seriously want to know how it's possible he looks WORSE than in 2k12, much worse actually! He looked great in 12, other classics as well and I get PS4 is different technology but shouldn't that give them more possibilities to make classics look BETTER?! They have a whole CAP system in which we can probably create a better look, so how come 2k can't? Also they should give MJ's 2k17 look, the cross eyed one, to Maxwell. The crazy eyes actually match better with his look
                    It is shocking. 14 next gen launch when I bought a ps4, the legends were disgraced and I was totally confused why. Jordan's face was laughable and it continued with 15, 16 and 17. 17 made strides for some of the legends , Rodman' s face in 17 is nearly perfect. But guys like Shaq, Jordan and Olajuwan still look terrible. They obviously are capable of improving their faces, it's just a severe lack of effort on 2 k's part. And the body proportions are still way off.

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                    • LeBronistheKing
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1040

                      #145
                      Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

                      Based on that All time Bulls team screen, Jordan looks to be very improved.

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                      • OTMax
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2017
                        • 239

                        #146
                        Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

                        Any chance there's a street hoops / style badge for guys like Jason Williams. Would be really cool if we could get some of those handles and passes in the game.

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                        • GisherJohn24
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 4603

                          #147
                          Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

                          Originally posted by OTMax
                          Any chance there's a street hoops / style badge for guys like Jason Williams. Would be really cool if we could get some of those handles and passes in the game.
                          Like that old freestyle nike commercial. He's in that. Check it out on YouTube

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                          • aloncho11
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 3708

                            #148
                            Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

                            Spoiler


                            - Shaq's face texture and model is really good. The only downside is that it's huge in relation to his body. His head isn't that big in real life.

                            - KG's face looks good too, but perhaps a little too old (for 2004) and his head a little too big.

                            - The muscle definition in both players is clearly noticeable when flexing, although Shaq looks more defined than KG when it should be the other way around.


                            Spoiler


                            - Chris Webber looks much older and a little zombie/pale looking (his skin is darker and his face should have a healthier/happier aspect).


                            Here's a good picture with his real skin tone:

                            Spoiler



                            Spoiler


                            - Where is Kendall Gill looking at? (a cheerleader on the sideline?) Isn't he supposed to be looking at the breakaway dunk of the player he was guarding?

                            - Too bad they didn't have time to update Scottie Pippen's face texture...
                            Last edited by aloncho11; 08-28-2017, 11:12 AM.
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                            • OldSchoolCat
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 56

                              #149
                              Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

                              Do you think we'll be able to edit and customize the player's size and body types so they're more accurate?


                              Originally posted by aloncho11
                              Spoiler


                              - Shaq's face texture and model is really good. The only downside is that it's huge in relation to his body. His head isn't that big in real life.

                              - KG's face looks good too, but perhaps a little too old (for 2004) and his head a little too big.

                              - The muscle definition in both players is clearly noticeable when flexing, although Shaq looks more defined than KG when it should be the other way around.


                              Spoiler


                              - Chris Webber looks much older and a little zombie/pale looking (his skin is darker and his face should have a healthier/happier aspect).


                              Here's a good picture with his real skin tone:

                              Spoiler



                              Spoiler


                              - Where is Kendall Gill looking at? (a cheerleader on the sideline?) Isn't he supposed to be looking at the breakaway dunk of the player he was guarding?

                              - Too bad they didn't have time to update Scottie Pippen's face texture...
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                              • LeBronistheKing
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 1040

                                #150
                                Re: LEGENDS Thread - NBA 2K18 & beyond: (Accessories, jerseys, sig styles etc)

                                Based on the new video, they have severely and inexplicably butchered the 2004 Lakers.

                                Kobe's player model is bald and looks more like current Kobe
                                Karl Malone is the same player model from the All time Jazz team and has hair instead of a completely bald head.

                                Also the 91 Bulls, I guess? Even though Jordan is wearing Jordan 8s, look like they are using that horrible 91 Scottie Pippen player model instead of the improved 2k17 92 Dream Team Pippen player model. I also have yet to see Jordan stick his tongue out in any footage, and am starting to be concerned that it may be either removed as it was when 2k17 first shipped or that the strange "fix" that was added to it after release is still being used.

                                You are touting all this All time teams content and new classic teams but you are not making efforts towards authenticity. Especially when it comes to these easily acheived instances of accuracy. Such as giving Kobe from the 2004 Lakers the correct hair or Karl Malone a bald head. This means it is probably likely that Alonzo Mourning on the 2006 Heat is still inaccurate and has the 93 Hornets player model with hair instead of a bald head. It also likely means that 2006 Dwyane Wade is the same player model since the 2006 Heats inclusion in 2k16. Which looks much more like 2009 Wade than his actual appearance in 2006.

                                I'm pleased that Shaquile O Neals player models look to be improved but the All time teams trailer showed that Shaq's early superstar teammate, Penny Hardaway, looks to have the same player model that he has had since probably 2k14. Which is one of the worst least accurate player models and it goes untouched.

                                Honestly I'm grateful to 2k for the work they have put in, but man some of these inaccuracies are just glaring.

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