200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

[illwill10]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

85 may be near all-star caliber for NBA players, not for your MyPlayer.


2k uses different scales/formulas.

Agreed. Pure Archetypes in theory shouldn't really warrant high overalls since in comparison to NBA stars, they would be Role players. A 90 OVR MyPlayer, would essentially be a 80-83 OVR NBA player.
I was thinking a Defending Rebounder PG should be a 99 OVR player if he is maxed out. At best he should be a 85.

[TheFinalEvent97]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

85 may be near all-star caliber for NBA players, not for your MyPlayer.


2k uses different scales/formulas.

Using the guesstimates posted in the duel archetypes thread Ive done a few players in 2k17 and they come out around 90 OVR with 99 intangibles when maxing out the white caps.

[DC]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

Yall sound entitled as hell.

Be lucky you have the option of buying your way up the ladder.

"Back in my day................"

Yall are showing your birthdates

[SmokinAces22]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

If it's 200,000 VC and you're buying the legend gold edition , essentially you'd have enough to start off with a 80+ player. Maybe I'm not getting what the big deal is. I don't really play any of the mold besides my GM and my career. So spending the VC I get on my pre-order to upgrade my player to a respectable level doesn't seem like a bad deal to me. I mean I'm not trying to start at 80+ but in the early mid 70s is worth the VC to me


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[eko718]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

85 may be near all-star caliber for NBA players, not for your MyPlayer.


2k uses different scales/formulas.

I don't see what you mean by that. If you are 85 in the Park, you are 85 in MyCareer regardless of formula, and your guy is going to be pretty nice. I play on HOF and put up AllStar numbers playing conservatively with like a 79-80 rating. When you have dudes running around at 99 in the Park, yeah, 85 is modest. Even then though, there have been many trash 99 rated players online.

[eko718]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

Using the guesstimates posted in the duel archetypes thread Ive done a few players in 2k17 and they come out around 90 OVR with 99 intangibles when maxing out the white caps.

If that's the case, the actual rating should translate in MyCareer and be what it is in the Park. I would frankly like it better that way... would make more sense to me. Something cheesy to me about being able to be a 99 rated rookie.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

I don't see what you mean by that. If you are 85 in the Park, you are 85 in MyCareer regardless of formula, and your guy is going to be pretty nice. I play on HOF and put up AllStar numbers playing conservatively with like a 79-80 rating. When you have dudes running around at 99 in the Park, yeah, 85 is modest. Even then though, there have been many trash 99 rated players online.

What he was trying to say is that in past 2k games your myplayer rating was bloated. If you recreated your player with the exact same stats in different modes such as myleague your rating was much lower . In mycareer your could be a 92 but if you recreated that character you would be an 82. Seems to be the same case this year. Personally I don't care about overalls . IQ > rating. But a lot of people who play offline complained that they couldn't recreate their dream builds truly .

[infemous]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

If somebody wants to spend hundreds of dollars to get an 85 overall, so be it, that's just ridiculous.

It will not take MONTHS to be an 85 either, compiling VS honestly isn't that hard and doesn't take that long anyway. I'll be 85 within a month easily, more likely a couple to a few weeks.

When I first started 2k last year, I was beating people with my 60/70 overall when they were 85-95 overall anyway

seriously man.

And a lil secret for everyone - play other modes.

You'll be amazed how much VC you earn in MyLeague, PlayNowOnline and MyGM. I'll be farming VC while I get to grips with the game, give myself some time to figure out which build I want and then once I got a nice stash of VC and I found the perfect build for my player, I will dump my VC in him, play the career in HOF and rack up VC like I do now.

I avoid MyTeam until the cards get better anyway, so make sure I'm always earning when I play lol

[ILLSmak]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

Yall sound entitled as hell.

Be lucky you have the option of buying your way up the ladder.

"Back in my day................"

Yall are showing your birthdates

maybe, but maybe it's the ladder in an of itself. It's an artificial 'ladder.' Sure it's an esport, but it's not the same kind of esport. It's more of like a promotional league. I'd like to hear the counter argument for that.

I'd like to see a mode that is similar but that was a pick up and play mode. As cool as it is to build your dude, it's nice to have something that isn't related to building your dude, that you can get on and play 5 on 5 competitively.

It's like dudes are saying man you can make plenty of VC just do this and that, and then do the app. No offense, but I'd like to keep the time I devote to a game confined to when I am playing it, and feel I am having fun, not climbing a ladder.

If I want to play a certain mode because I am digging it, then I should be able to do it. I shouldn't think, objectively, this is wasting time because I could be earning 3x the VC if I just did this! But if you're not earning VC or paying for it, you are actually limiting your enjoyment of the game. It's like, there should be some counter that says "hours until you can enjoy the game!" for those of us who don't buy VC. haha.

It's also true what people said that they require us to do this every year, the same garbage basically or pay for it. Every year for every player.

-Smak

[GoDucks1224]

200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

People need to stop acting like this is only 2K. EA has the option to pay for 'points' to buy MUT/HUT/FUT packs. Hell EA practically invented micro transactions. The Show lets you buy Stubs for DD. Ubisoft sells 'Helix Points' in Assassin's Creed, and all kinds of stuff in Rainbow Six. CoD sells whatever. Everything has micro transactions these days. This isn't new. This isn't only 2K being some greedy entity the likes of which we've never seen. And they're all optional! VC towards your MyCareer is one of the most optional micros out there! You don't even have to be a 99 to beat the no defense ball hogging scrubs in the Park as is.

[ph33]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

People need to stop acting like this is only 2K. EA has the option to pay for 'points' to buy MUT/HUT/FUT packs. Hell EA practically invented micro transactions. The Show lets you buy Stubs for DD. Ubisoft sells 'Helix Points' in Assassin's Creed, and all kinds of stuff in Rainbow Six. CoD sells whatever. Everything has micro transactions these days. This isn't new. This isn't only 2K being some greedy entity the likes of which we've never seen. And they're all optional! VC towards your MyCareer is one of the most optional micros out there! You don't even have to be a 99 to beat the no defense ball hogging scrubs in the Park as is.

I don't totally agree about comparing MyCareer to Ultimate Team. Those other games have similar multi-player modes that I think is more appropriate to compare MyCareer with.

NHL's 5 on 5 team play mode---set player builds and you can jump in from day one, day 100, day 300, and if you are great at the game, you can do it right away in the mode you want to play. You don't to do a bunch of other stuff that doesn't interest you just so you can play what you want to play. Player/club progression allows you to unlock more perks for the individual or for the team. Their player builds would NEVER work in an NBA game that demands more flexibility when it comes to player creation, but NHL used to do the exact same kind of thing as 2k did, and stopped after NHL 15.

Same with FIFA, although FIFA's got progression to it. But as I mentioned earlier, your player isn't next to worthless when you start out. You still have to play a lot of games to unlock player traits and get some individual attributes up, so same thing there---there is no "Grind to not suck or pay" aspect to it, you are just there to play a team game against other people who bought the game to do the same.

I'd like to see a mode that is similar but that was a pick up and play mode. As cool as it is to build your dude, it's nice to have something that isn't related to building your dude, that you can get on and play 5 on 5 competitively.

Thankfully, that's what All-Star team up or regular team up is for, if you weren't aware of it (Many people aren't because it's kind of hidden). I'd actually LOVE to play those modes more regularly, but there's too many quitters and too many horrible people/players in that mode that sucks the fun out of it.

[El_Poopador]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

People need to stop acting like this is only 2K. EA has the option to pay for 'points' to buy MUT/HUT/FUT packs. Hell EA practically invented micro transactions. The Show lets you buy Stubs for DD. Ubisoft sells 'Helix Points' in Assassin's Creed, and all kinds of stuff in Rainbow Six. CoD sells whatever. Everything has micro transactions these days. This isn't new. This isn't only 2K being some greedy entity the likes of which we've never seen. And they're all optional! VC towards your MyCareer is one of the most optional micros out there! You don't even have to be a 99 to beat the no defense ball hogging scrubs in the Park as is.

Just because other companies also do it doesn't make it a good practice.

And 2k is very invasive with their VC requirements to get basic enjoyment from the game, to the point where they sacrifice realism in certain aspects.


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[jadert]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

honestly, it's 'if you hate paying VC don't... buy the game.' Because if you buy the game and grind you are still adding to the problem. You are feeding vc to the people who paid for it and you are devoting many hours to a game that is basically exploiting its players. I could amend it, maybe, to 'don't... play online," but even then. It's the consumers who thought, "well, actually if you count an hour at work against the amount of hours I have to play to get x reward, it's totally a good deal!" that have ushered in this age of fleecing.

Glad to know it's like this. It will be interesting to see that point when people say 'enough is enough.'


-Smak

When people say enough is enough they will stop buying, and 2K will stop. It's called the "market". Obviously people are paying for VC in droves, so it will continue.

I actually agree with you. I hope all of these constant complainers of VC do not buy the game. It will make the forums much cleaner with tips, strategies, and suggestions rather than the yearly VC complaint. If VC was required, I understand; But it's not and the argument is getting old. I'm glad NBA Live will give others a viable alternative.

[Geolink]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

You have to play the game. You guys do know that, right?

[coolcras7]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

You have to play the game. You guys do know that, right?

People are rediculous with a evil cooperation BS buying VC is voluntary,2k does not have a gun to your head, you can earn VC by just playing quick games.