NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

[kolkmania]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

Oh my. You have the opportunity to show the game and all you do is push L1 and run pick and roll with your center or ISO with your PG.
On top of that Ronnie is just complaining all the time "that's not realistic"", "that's bull****, "coooomeee ooooon, maaake that", "oh my goooood, stop making fouls". NBA 2K needs to look critically at their PR department, they can educate the audience so much more about the subtle beauties in the game.

[Thetruth9012]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

What's up with this dunks in traffic..........??

I'm already mad at it.

[MacD]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

Body types and lack of muscle/definition on the arms still look too skinny to me, they need to up their body model shaping game next year as the better the faces get, the worse the bodies look in comparison...

Yeah, but they still look way, way better than last year. I'd rather have some players look a little off (the same way some were too bulky in 2K16) than that terrible skinny body type in 2K17 which just looked grotesque.

[Jrocc23]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

I wish they'd start letting Mike and someone else play. I've never seen Mike play once.


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[blk5tar5]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

I haven't watch the video yet but from previous live stream from these guys they never run a play. I don't understand why people are upset when they don't want to give anybody any advantage of showing their game. Granted, they work for 2K and you think they would have couple of hints to show the community and users how the gameplay is. It is what it is. I'll wait until Friday to get my copy and practice.


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[MacD]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

I've just noticed something. What the hell happened to Tom Thibodeau (14:53)?! I thought they already had a decent model in place in 2K16...it's really strange.

[whatitisinsports]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

1. Offensive rebounds still a problem. I think ball had 4 or 5 in the first quarter.
2. He said the spin was almost impossible last year,,??? It was an OP cheese, as it appears to be again.
3. More bad shots go in than wide open,. Slightly late/early ,, again and it's on superstar. 😑
4. Cpu logic on transition appears to be completely broken as a few guys pointed out last week.
5. The Ball just drops in the paint regardless handler or defenders,, again.. And can be seen in almost any video that's out there. Smh.
6. Maybe it's time to just eliminate the keep game close logic, maybe that's what's making all this mess happen and has been for a while now,even does it in pro am and park FFS
7. Of course they aren't going to touch the attribute issue until they rack up that initial vc from this super shady practice.
8. Ea please keep improving nba live because competition is good.

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[TheLetterZ]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

I haven't watch the video yet but from previous live stream from these guys they never run a play. I don't understand why people are upset when they don't want to give anybody any advantage of showing their game. Granted, they work for 2K and you think they would have couple of hints to show the community and users how the gameplay is. It is what it is. I'll wait until Friday to get my copy and practice.


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As they pointed out on the stream it is hard to play and talk at the same time.

I don't presume to speak for LD2K or Ronnie2K but if I had to present the game on a stream while playing, I'd probably find it really hard to run a smart offense through plays while telling people about the game.

While I'd love to watch a stream of two basketball heads just playing, I still felt relieved to watch this stream and at least seeing guys who know their personnel and play something approximating real basketball.

It sure beats most of the other gameplay videos out to this point.

[nuttyrich]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

Don't worry Ronnie has a patch released for the stream. Kidding I agree but they didn't really interact with anyone but themselves..

Would have been more fun to watch them just play their way and trash each other.

If you held the camera horizontal, it was so blurry camera was so far back.. Almost unwatchable.

To see it clearer, you had to watch it vertically, which gives you about 2 inches of screen using your phone. You couldn't tell the difference between a big man and a small man.

Just like their huge NY event.. Went from 6-7k people watching to about 2k (no pun).

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[MacD]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

As they pointed out on the stream it is hard to play and talk at the same time.

I don't presume to speak for LD2K or Ronnie2K but if I had to present the game on a stream while playing, I'd probably find it really hard to run a smart offense through plays while telling people about the game.

While I'd love to watch a stream of two basketball heads just playing, I still felt relieved to watch this stream and at least seeing guys who know their personnel and play something approximating real basketball.

It sure beats most of the other gameplay videos out to this point.

All valid points. Perhaps it would be best if someone else from 2K played a game, while they'd just comment and say what they want to say, hell CPU vs. CPU would be better to really showcase the game and they way it flows.

I just don't think it's a good look for them or the game really. The whining, comments like "that's not realistic" "no way" (followed by LD taking 100 shots with Lonzo Ball, because he's excited I guess) and LD: "[Crawford] is a bad man" Ronnie: "Well he just missed an open three".

I know it's just banter, not really a big deal or anything but I kinda think it plays to the mentality of many players (e.g. player A missed an open three = the game is broken) and it's just frustrating.

[strawberryshortcake]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

Body types and lack of muscle/definition on the arms still look too skinny to me, they need to up their body model shaping game next year as the better the faces get, the worse the bodies look in comparison...

The bodies actually look more realistic. Muscle definition also looks very appropriate.

http://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2048939338&postcount=60

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Muscle definition:

Google image search vs TV broadcast and players in motion makes a major difference

This will be my first time speaking about muscle definition. I keep hearing about guys needing to look more ripped. Understandable, but at the same time, here's the thing ...

2k is looking to create a TV broadcast look. Even for players that are extremely muscular defined, the muscle cut aren't as extremely defined when players are in motion and watching broadcast NBA televised games.

You can't really use "google image search" when it comes to muscle definition as a blueprint because camera flash or photos taken with high definition camera captures a different aesthetic flavor. You need to use real NBA footage where the players are actually in motion. This is why player models in NBA2k14 wasn't as accurate as people say they were, and also in NBA Live overall where everyone is built extremely muscular. Everyone in 2k14 was built with extreme muscle cuts. That's not normal with real NBA footage.

What 2k is famous for is players in motion. They look realistic and they move realistic. Adding intense muscle definition could jeopardize this aspect. Just a guess.

Just the same as pre-workout and post-workout body image. Immediately after lifting weights, your muscles tend to be incredibly defined, you look your best immediately after a workout. You look ripped. As the hours go by, you begin to look "softer." You may still be cut if you're already cut and conditioned well, but you're not going to look as muscular defined. A lot of fitness photoshoot may have the person do some push, pullup or whatever just prior to shooting to give a more muscular cut/lean look.

What 2k or other games will need is an animation system that simulates a muscle flexed state (partial, intense, heavy, etc.) vs their unflexed natural state. I don't want to see extreme muscle cuts when the majority of the time, the athletes' muscle isn't in the extreme flexed state. More often than not even when flexed and moving, their muscles are on the softer side, and I think 2k does a very good job with it.

I personally want to experience and see what I would see on TV, not what I would see on google image.

Click on spoiler tag for more real live NBA broadcast footage showing players' muscle definition don't match that of google image search. Muscle definition during live broadcast is much more subtle.

Example 1
<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wAqjE9fLbnA" allowfullscreen="" height="315" frameborder="0" width="560"></iframe>




Example 2
<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/y9NZhErUdrs" allowfullscreen="" height="315" frameborder="0" width="560"></iframe>

Example 3
<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/TQw8LhftEAM" allowfullscreen="" height="315" frameborder="0" width="560"></iframe>

<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/TQw8LhftEAM" allowfullscreen="" height="315" frameborder="0" width="560"></iframe>

http://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2048939368&postcount=63

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Again, you're basically proving my point by using google image. You're also using athletic adrenaline infused (when the athlete is at the peak, peak, peak muscle flexed position) DSLR high powered (likely) camera shots.

Did you at least watch all three videos I posted? I specifically selected footage that zoomed in on the players. I wanted to get footage that zoomed in closer on players to show that their muscle definition is not as extreme as seen with google image. Not everything was from your traditional pulled back broadcast in-game camera shot. At the start of the game (example 1 video), during the timeout substitution (example 3 video), close up of the players, you'll see that their muscle definition is not as extreme as the google images you've captured. NBA live has extreme muscle definition always. It changes partially (not entirely, but partially) why their animations system looks the way they do.

Secondly. The screenshots 2k is releasing are basically from in game. They're simply zooming in on the players so they can specifically captured them as screencaps. Basically the same if you had the power from behind a TV studio broadcast camera. Find the player you want, zoom in and focus on them during the broadcast.

Third. Did you see how "soft" Andre's muscles looked in that second and third video? Did you see how "soft" all the players in the videos looked? These aren't during traditional broadcast camera, these are all during replay, or non-traditional zoomed in footage showing players on close up.

Screencapture from video (Zoomed in shots of players). These aren't from "broadcast" camera view, these are from a 'different' camera angle, but zoomed in on the players when they're moving, breathing, real life.

[nuttyrich]

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All valid points. Perhaps it would be best if someone else from 2K played a game, while they'd just comment and say what they want to say, hell CPU vs. CPU would be better to really showcase the game and they way it flows.

I just don't think it's a good look for them or the game really. The whining, comments like "that's not realistic" "no way" (followed by LD taking 100 shots with Lonzo Ball, because he's excited I guess) and LD: "[Crawford] is a bad man" Ronnie: "Well he just missed an open three".

I know it's just banter, not really a big deal or anything but I kinda think it plays to the mentality of many players (e.g. player A missed an open three = the game is broken) and it's just frustrating.

Well said.. You would think they were opposed to the game by Ronnie's reactions.. When we all know everyone who plays with the Lakers.. Is doing the same thing just to try out lonzo.

I did find it weird if Ronnie missed shots or didn't like the way LD played.. almost sounded like he was complaining and whining..

LD seemed like he was enjoying the game, I kind of feel now.. That he let Ronnie win.. Because the best part if the broadcast was throwing cereal in Ronnie's head.. He finally seem happy.

Then again this all means nothing, their horrible showing back to back.. Still doesn't take away 2k will be great.

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[nuttyrich]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

1. Offensive rebounds still a problem. I think ball had 4 or 5 in the first quarter.
2. He said the spin was almost impossible last year,,??? It was an OP cheese, as it appears to be again.
3. More bad shots go in than wide open,. Slightly late/early ,, again and it's on superstar. 😑
4. Cpu logic on transition appears to be completely broken as a few guys pointed out last week.
5. The Ball just drops in the paint regardless handler or defenders,, again.. And can be seen in almost any video that's out there. Smh.
6. Maybe it's time to just eliminate the keep game close logic, maybe that's what's making all this mess happen and has been for a while now,even does it in pro am and park FFS
7. Of course they aren't going to touch the attribute issue until they rack up that initial vc from this super shady practice.
8. Ea please keep improving nba live because competition is good.

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You named 8 problems.. Does that mean we get 8 patches this year... Kidding..I do hope some of this can be fixed but patch.

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[rhein77]

Re: NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video - Timberwolves (Ronnie2K) vs. Lakers (LD2K)

What really stood out to me was the drive and kick game... Lonzo was beating his man and kicking to wide open shooters in the corners... I think they finally got the passing speed right. The ball actually looks faster than the player. The passing animations and speed at which the shooters caught the ball and shot were fluid. Looked good.

I would of loved to see Ronny take advantage of KAT in the high post and pick and pop 3s...

The defensive adjustments menu is just what the dr. ordered after the travesty of a menu last year. Everything is tucked in 1 place with explanations... Kudos.

I am encouraged...

[Mikelopedia]

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All valid points. Perhaps it would be best if someone else from 2K played a game, while they'd just comment and say what they want to say, hell CPU vs. CPU would be better to really showcase the game and they way it flows.

I just don't think it's a good look for them or the game really. The whining, comments like "that's not realistic" "no way" (followed by LD taking 100 shots with Lonzo Ball, because he's excited I guess) and LD: "[Crawford] is a bad man" Ronnie: "Well he just missed an open three".

I know it's just banter, not really a big deal or anything but I kinda think it plays to the mentality of many players (e.g. player A missed an open three = the game is broken) and it's just frustrating.

This right here.

As I've said before, 2k would be better off showcasing CPU vs CPU. No offense to them, as I respect the efforts these 2 put into their jobs, LD and Ronnie playing does a diservice to the improvements made in gameplay.
I know I know, we always hear, its hard to talk and play. A) it really isnt and B) you could easily just say for example: "here Im going to show you something on this one play real quick, check out Czars flow tech in action" or something to that effect. Not even that in depth, just "look how much faster plays develop"

I cant believe they dont realize this, but Ronnie complaining sets the platform for more unwarranted complaining from twitter trolls who cant play. Most people (outside of this nice little oasis we call OS) recognize Ronnie as the FACE of NBA 2k. When he complains the game is cheating him, what idea does that put into the head of 15 yr old @FIXDROSE?

At this point, this is just for LD and Ronnie to have fun, and they deserve that! But if we are showcasing the game, lets showcase the game. I know many have suggested DaCzar vs OG, which would be fun, but I'd like to propose an idea of a Community vs Dev Showcase Game. And it couldnt be a youtube celeb BRUH that BRUH screams nonsense BRUH because he'll bruh BRUH be in tears after getting smacked by a dev. I'd like to throw this out there BRUH..

Sam Pham vs Mike Wang
Live on PPV from Caesars Palace lol