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  • soulsearcher
    Rookie
    • Jul 2017
    • 52

    #751
    Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

    Contrary to a lot of people, I'm really not enjoying the game so far this year. And I have been a huge, huge 2K fan and supporter for years now. Granted, I have been playing on a mediocre TV mounted on a hotel room wall, so I should wait and reserve full judgement until I'm home with my nicer TV and everything.

    Gameplay wise though, there are some issues in my opinion. I like how they've obviously put much more emphasis on defense, but starting on HOF (which I've always needed to play on for the challenge) and then customizing sliders, CPU defense still feels too overpowered to me. I'm fine if a really good defensive team is giving me trouble, but even teams like the Kings are suffocating at times. I know I need more time with the game and my home setup to improve, but it still shouldn't be like this I don't think. The CPU guard defenders play on ball "smother" on like every guard. That isn't realistic. NBA defenders are serious, and they do guard on the perimeter with effort a lot, but not like this. There is a guy in your grill constantly. CPU defenders in general are too adept at poking the ball loose, even guys who aren't great at stealing IRL. They are just too aware, even the poor ones. Human ballhandling isn't good enough also.

    I haven't played a lot, but I still haven't seen a charge taken by an AI player or even attempted to take (legacy problem), a defensive three seconds (legacy problem), an offensive three seconds, an alley oop by the CPU (another legacy problem), or a timeout taken by the CPU. I know the lack of timeouts by the CPU has been talked about. I'm sure it's a result of them getting rid of the auto timeouts the CPU called in 2K17, they were hard coded at certain times it seemed, as well as the double timeout issue when they would call one right after the user. Really glad they got rid of those specific problems, but now there aren't enough timeouts. Granted, I've been mostly losing, so if I was in control of more games I'm sure I'd see the CPU call a couple more TO's. Still aren't enough though.

    They also made a change to the Broadcast Zoom camera I really don't like, now when you're dribbling the ball up the court it zooms way out to let you see down the court. I get the idea, so you can make full court passes easier, I just really don't like the zoom out. It's extreme. I know I'll enjoy the game more as I continue to play it, but there are definitely some things this year that don't feel as great to me as 17 which I loved continuously from day 1 until the end.

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    • The 24th Letter
      ERA
      • Oct 2007
      • 39373

      #752
      Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

      Originally posted by jfsolo
      I feel like this is the case too. I don't know if you have to have the meter/feedback for online, but offline I've turned off both and am totally shooting off of the rumble feel now.
      I don't know if you have to, but I haven't even bothered to turn mine off...so I notice when its 'red sometimes despite me knocking down the shot. I actually got a green release on a 'heavily contested' 3 with Kawhi to tie a game up...
      Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
      Strange Im getting the exact opposite. Looks like Im off to the practise courts to work on timing.
      I could not stand 2K17s shooting man....this year's shooting feels like it was tailor fit for me....

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      • gremdog8
        Rookie
        • Jun 2011
        • 272

        #753
        Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

        I know the NBA is a game of runs but this game feels like it's forced upon you. You will be hitting for a few minute clip and then the game just shuts you down for a few minutes and lets the AI go off for awhile, then rinse and repeat. It never feels like a chess match, more of a you go , I go and whoever gets lucky to be on at the end will win. The floor is either smaller to me or the players are bigger cause spacing on this game is awful. Not being able to skip timeouts when playing private all star teamups with friends is annoying. This game can be something special but right now I am barely playing it till a patch drops.

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        • nuttyrich
          Rookie
          • Jul 2002
          • 489

          #754
          Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

          I've only seen two charges so far then again. I'm not a severe driver/slasher..just more of me running into the defender too hard..right in the restricted area..but no where did the Body UP for a charge...

          Being I've been the end of the blowouts..but when I did jump to early leads..they called time outs twice within the same quarter..to settle things down.

          While I 100% agree with you that the. AI defenders shouldn't be able to stick to you like glue if they're crappy defenders...only way I think they can hot fix this without a patch is make it that every defender is using his true defensive number a 60 overall defensive guy shouldn't be able to stick to an all star like glue..maybe a few times at best.

          So say Kyrie.. driving or being guarded by a bum..he should be able to blow by him or draw an easy foul..or demand a double team.. going to a higher difficulty level doesn't make a 60 defender better...he's still a 60..they need to take that in account...

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          • nuttyrich
            Rookie
            • Jul 2002
            • 489

            #755
            Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

            Originally posted by gremdog8
            I know the NBA is a game of runs but this game feels like it's forced upon you. You will be hitting for a few minute clip and then the game just shuts you down for a few minutes and lets the AI go off for awhile, then rinse and repeat. It never feels like a chess match, more of a you go , I go and whoever gets lucky to be on at the end will win. The floor is either smaller to me or the players are bigger cause spacing on this game is awful. Not being able to skip timeouts when playing private all star teamups with friends is annoying. This game can be something special but right now I am barely playing it till a patch drops.
            I do agree about the Runs..seems like a back and forth thing,I get hot they get hot..we switch..but my defense being so bad they win..but that's fine..

            I do see what your saying though. Alsmost feels as if each side is given an amount of time to go on crazy mode...I don't think I've had a game where I feel like I can. SLOW it down...then again I've only played about 5 games total 2 tipoff night and 3 yesterday...

            One thing I don't understand is you might not like that way but how are they going to fix the spacing...or make th guys smaller???...Think that's a no win situation there...what do you think a new pay will DO?

            I'm asking out of curiosity..hopefully others feel like you and we come to an consensus...

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            • Dione2014
              Pro
              • Dec 2014
              • 720

              #756
              Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

              Originally posted by soulsearcher
              They also made a change to the Broadcast Zoom camera I really don't like, now when you're dribbling the ball up the court it zooms way out to let you see down the court. I get the idea, so you can make full court passes easier, I just really don't like the zoom out. It's extreme. I know I'll enjoy the game more as I continue to play it, but there are definitely some things this year that don't feel as great to me as 17 which I loved continuously from day 1 until the end.
              Turn key zoom off. It'll stop the camera from zooming out in transition.

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              • kaluis05
                Rookie
                • Oct 2016
                • 109

                #757
                Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

                Originally posted by 49UNCFan
                I feel shooting is too easy
                Agree...am using "user timing without shot meter". Just need the right player, at the right place, and at the right time.

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                • kaluis05
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 109

                  #758
                  Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

                  Originally posted by urlacher51
                  Am I the only one not seeing any charging fouls being called?
                  I've seen some charging fouls, though not every game. And some illegal picks too.

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                  • Smallville102001
                    All Star
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 6542

                    #759
                    Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

                    Originally posted by urlacher51
                    Am I the only one not seeing any charging fouls being called?
                    I have played like 10 games this year and I don't think I have seen one called on me or CPU and heck the last like 5 games I had the charging slider up higher.

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                    • bkballer91
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 12

                      #760
                      Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

                      Last night, I was playing a game of Thunder vs Knicks, I was the Knicks. Westbrook gets injured, Abrines gets injured, and now PG needs to lead the team. He led the Thunder to victory, but he sure didn't take the most shots. Andre Roberson, who I continued leaving wide open in the corner, took 30 shots! 23 of those shots were threes. He hit on just five of those shots. The CPU clearly didn't adjust the gameplan and kept shooting with Roberson even though he clearly wasn't hitting anything. This is a VERY BIG AI problem and shouldn't be ignored.

                      Has anyone else seen this happen to them? Is there any explanation?

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                      • Nickstank
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 839

                        #761
                        Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

                        Originally posted by bkballer91
                        Last night, I was playing a game of Thunder vs Knicks, I was the Knicks. Westbrook gets injured, Abrines gets injured, and now PG needs to lead the team. He led the Thunder to victory, but he sure didn't take the most shots. Andre Roberson, who I continued leaving wide open in the corner, took 30 shots! 23 of those shots were threes. He hit on just five of those shots. The CPU clearly didn't adjust the gameplan and kept shooting with Roberson even though he clearly wasn't hitting anything. This is a VERY BIG AI problem and shouldn't be ignored.

                        Has anyone else seen this happen to them? Is there any explanation?
                        I noticed this when playing the Thunder as well. Roberson is WAY too trigger happy. I adjusted his shooting tendencies on my roster. He's one of the worst shooters in the league, but he was out there firing at will like he's Steph or Klay.
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                        • JoFri
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1486

                          #762
                          NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

                          Originally posted by bkballer91;
                          Last night, I was playing a game of Thunder vs Knicks, I was the Knicks. Westbrook gets injured, Abrines gets injured, and now PG needs to lead the team. He led the Thunder to victory, but he sure didn't take the most shots. Andre Roberson, who I continued leaving wide open in the corner, took 30 shots! 23 of those shots were threes. He hit on just five of those shots. The CPU clearly didn't adjust the gameplan and kept shooting with Roberson even though he clearly wasn't hitting anything. This is a VERY BIG AI problem and shouldn't be ignored.



                          Has anyone else seen this happen to them? Is there any explanation?


                          Whats the tendency like for andre - drive and spot-up?


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                          • Smirkin Dirk
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 5170

                            #763
                            Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

                            Originally posted by bkballer91
                            Andre Roberson, who I continued leaving wide open in the corner, took 30 shots! 23 of those shots were threes. He hit on just five of those shots. The CPU clearly didn't adjust the gameplan and kept shooting with Roberson even though he clearly wasn't hitting anything. This is a VERY BIG AI problem and shouldn't be ignored.

                            Has anyone else seen this happen to them? Is there any explanation?
                            Yeah, that can only be fixed through tendency changes. I left him wide open last year and he'd shoot it often.

                            Ive just looked at his tendencies and they are 60 for spot up 3s (higher than Paul George and Westbrook!!!) and 35 off screens.

                            And yeah there is a tendency for AI swings and guards to shoot whenever left open regardless of who's shooting
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                            • Smirkin Dirk
                              All Star
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 5170

                              #764
                              Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

                              Actually Im just noticing all tendencies have been adjusted this year, and they are all lower. Roberson has one of the highest 3 point shot tendencies in the league, which is plainly wrong.
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                              • MacD
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2015
                                • 110

                                #765
                                Re: NBA 2k18 Impressions Thread

                                Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
                                Actually Im just noticing all tendencies have been adjusted this year, and they are all lower. Roberson has one of the highest 3 point shot tendencies in the league, which is plainly wrong.
                                So this is obviously a mistake on their part. Do we know anything about their willingness to adjust tendencies this year? I've skipped 2K17, but I know in 2K16 they didn't touch them and just changed the ratings (one result I remember was CJ McCullum during his breakout season getting a high rating but still averaging like 12 ppg).

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