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  • DatIsraeliGuy
    MVP
    • Jul 2014
    • 1180

    #91
    Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

    In the words of the great Joseph Tribianni:
    We are so far from the line it's not even a line,
    The line is just a dot!


    But seriously, Jim Sterling just posted a video about 2k18 and how outrageous we should be as a community, and while the reviews on Steam are so terrible (which is a positive thing), it doesn't seem to bother the console market as far as I can see.
    We are at fault here, don't even think otherwise for a second, because when they introduced VC in 2k13 (thanks Jay Z!) we should have dismantled them and create a massive backlash, but we didn't, because gaming consumers are the worst

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    • ziju
      Rookie
      • Oct 2016
      • 23

      #92
      Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

      VC and microtransactions? I am just fine with it. Paying 10000 VC for a pair of Jordans? Heck! Why not? I will either play a couple of NBA games to afford them or pay 5 real bucks.

      BUT

      I got the legend box including 100k VC and spent another 10 Dollar for a couple more. My MyPlayer is now 80 and my MyTeam got a couple good players. I am fine with that. But what if, I decide to start over with another archetype? Do i really have to play 80+ games with a 60 overall player to make like 60K? And then upgrade him to what? 72? And what if I decide that this archetype does not make any fun? Play another 80+ games to push a third player to 72?

      I have no problem with grinding. I played a lot World of Warcraft. I am used to grind and work for what you want. But the balance between the income and the price you have to pay for vital things like attribute upgrades is not given. So 2K, let us either earn more VC through NBA games, reintroduce the multiplier for a higher difficulty or lower the prices for the upgrades.

      Again, I do not mind Jordans costing 10k VC. It is ok, it is just not vital to the game. But it is a sin, to have to pay to enjoy the vital, the core of MyCareer. The possibility to develop your player. Trying different archetypes and teams and so on... The fact that only unemployed people or kids have this much free time to just being able to grind this hard to fully enjoy this game mode really freaks me out. I am very disappointed. In 2K17 you were at least able to create different players because you would earn enough VC through games, endorsements and endorsements bonuses. Let those who want pay for VC but 2K, PAY those who put work into it sufficiently!
      Last edited by ziju; 09-21-2017, 09:38 AM.

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      • meccs
        Rookie
        • Sep 2010
        • 471

        #93
        Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

        Originally posted by johnny33
        Talk with your wallets, folks. After either pre-ordering or buying the game at launch since the PS2 days, I think I'll sit this one out until the first big price drop.
        That is the thing though. This is never going to happen unless there is an alternative to NBA 2K. People will moan and give bad reviews and then still buy the game next year. Those who don't have the money will complain about VC and those who do have the money will spend an additional $100 or more and still complain about VC. No one is willing to do anything about it because it would mean you have to play Live for a year or two or an old or no NBA game at all. WE are the problem. Stop buying this **** and it will go away. Guaranteed.
        And buying the game but not buying any VC is not a solution because they would implement even more restrictions next year. Stop buying the game.
        Last edited by meccs; 09-21-2017, 10:35 AM.

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        • Lil_tjizzle
          Rookie
          • Sep 2017
          • 8

          #94
          Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

          Ok I created an account just for this question. Am I the only one not receiving VC when I play an online game?? It says I should get 400-500 after each game but it never shows when I try to edit my player.

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          • ziju
            Rookie
            • Oct 2016
            • 23

            #95
            Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

            Hey Jizzle, it is a known bug not receiving VC after play now online games!

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            • trandoanhung1991
              Rookie
              • Nov 2012
              • 372

              #96
              Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

              As a person with plenty of disposable income I find this VC situation to be ridiculous.

              The only mode I'm really interested in is MyCareer, and it has gone down the drain rapidly. The story is even worse than that Spike Lee/Orange Juice **** the past 2 years. Gameplay while looking better is not that much better. I've been looking at 2K MyCareer YouTube playthroughs and honestly it doesn't look that much different from 2k17, or 2k16, or 2k15. Still the same dumb decisions and weird cheese.

              Btw, there are plenty of ways to get to 99 fast, it's all over YouTube. The completely ******** decision to make VC gain constant after each game is the final straw for me. There are plenty of people cheesing it with 1 minute quarters getting 600 VCs or so every 5-6 minutes.

              And what's this? If I only play MyCareer exclusively I get punished for it? Yeah screw that. I'd rather play NBA Live 18 or not play at all than dealing with all this nonsense they're trying to dump on me.

              <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/eLCgbpbyzvo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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              • ELPAGA
                Rookie
                • Oct 2016
                • 204

                #97
                Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

                Originally posted by NoLeafClover
                It's not just the VC exploitation, it's the combination of VC exploitation and bugs that makes it doubly worse. Just off the top of my head, issues that the game shipped with include:

                - Massive drop in frame rate in online 5on5 game modes after time outs

                - No VC awarded for winning in Play Now Online

                - Often no VC awarded in MyCareer even though it visually displays at the end of games (disappears on reloading back to neighbourhood)

                - Whole issue with people losing their VC upgrades / MyPlayer

                - MyTeam players STILL wander around for 30 seconds before the tip off for no reason

                - Commentary lines hang when trying to skip at end of quarters

                - Stats on MyTeam cards don't line up properly with the dotted line indicator making it impossible to tell which stat matches which description

                - Subs don't take effect when you've used the on the fly coaching sub menu half the time

                - Coach settings you've saved constantly randomly reset

                - Can't equip gear in Walk On Pro Am anywhere in the game interface

                etc etc.

                If you're going to milk people for a premium monetary contribution ON TOP OF the initial price of the game, you better damn well release it with minimal bugs and have excellent customer service; 2K does neither and it appears we are all finally tired enough of it by now.

                Sent from my SM-T810 using Operation Sports mobile app
                yeah you have to go to your My Court, watch another cut scene, and then walk to your closet to equip Pro Am Gear you bought.

                They are trying so hard to be GTA Online

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                • 335TDC
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 352

                  #98
                  Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

                  Originally posted by ziju

                  . Let those who want pay for VC but 2K, PAY those who put work into it sufficiently!

                  I hate VC, but this is pure frustration talking. The entire model is based on this: making "earning" VC a less and less attractive option so that those teetering on the edge just purchase it. It's not a model based on respecting your time -- ha! That would be funny -- it's a model based on pure profitability, period. And if returns keep growing, each year it will get worse and worse. Because it's working. So strap in or bail out.



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                  • killakrok
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 605

                    #99
                    Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

                    Originally posted by fileman3
                    The line was crossed years ago....
                    I've played this game since the original NBA2K on Dreamcast, this was a long time coming since they switched over from using SP to VC in MyCareer. Since then they've integrated VC into as many modes as possible, making VC unavoidable. You now have to pay VC for things that are not only free in other sports games, but were free in previous versions of 2K, while increasing the cost of those items each year as they lower the amount of VC you earn from playing the game...

                    but don't worry, in a few week's you'll see huge red banners on every free spot in the game for a 75% off VC sale, so it's all ok right????........

                    Originally posted by Eman5805
                    ...It's designed to make you go "Screw this, I'll just pay $20 bucks for the 75K pack to get at least up to...72 overall?"...
                    like this guy? ⮯
                    Originally posted by Swish_41
                    I worked 4 hrs extra for this vc, got 60 bucks and bought some pizza and a psn card... Pre release really did not want to buy vc but when i realized how much time it will take to get to an 85 i thought WTF 2k !?!...

                    Originally posted by UravenzownU
                    ...having to re buy stuff after you've already bought it and want to change back...

                    Last edited by killakrok; 09-21-2017, 03:24 PM.

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                    • Lil_tjizzle
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8

                      #100
                      Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

                      Originally posted by ziju
                      Hey Jizzle, it is a known bug not receiving VC after play now online games!
                      Thanks alot!! I knew I wasnt tripping!! I use play now online as an alternative to buying vc. I guess I'll grind it out in my career until they fix this

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                      • swac07
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 1843

                        #101
                        Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

                        I feel this video explains my exact sentiments towards the whole vc "debacle" ....especially the "11 yr old vs 27 yr old scenario"



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                        Last edited by swac07; 09-21-2017, 11:07 PM.
                        "Wisdom is ALWAYS an overmatch for strength"........The Zen Master

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                        • Justonepost
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 482

                          #102
                          Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

                          2K Games pressured The Sixth Axis to remove 3/10 score from NBA 2K18 review:

                          http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1436493

                          They most certainly have crossed the line.

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                          • swac07
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1843

                            #103
                            Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

                            Originally posted by Justonepost
                            2K Games pressured The Sixth Axis to remove 3/10 score from NBA 2K18 review:

                            http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1436493

                            They most certainly have crossed the line.
                            So they gave it 3 outta 10 over Vc??? Lmao that's not even 95 percent of the game... oh I see it was a "protest score"...BOTH sides overreacted imo

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                            Last edited by swac07; 09-21-2017, 10:55 PM.
                            "Wisdom is ALWAYS an overmatch for strength"........The Zen Master

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                            • myathebee
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 256

                              #104
                              Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

                              The fact that they removed the hall of fame multiplier is all you really need...They are making it almost impossible to build your player without purchasing VC..It is literally pay to win module..I don't know about you but I can't support 60$ games doing this...I haven't bought 2k18 and I probably never will. Mycareer is the only mode I play and with all the restrictions on earning VC I see no reason to actually play the game..I won't enjoy this grind being stuck as a 60 overall for months on end...I'm not paying 50+$ of my hard earned to be semi-competitive.

                              I had no issue with VC till this year....They have become greedy monsters and it's sad.

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                              • Goffs
                                New Ork Giants
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 12279

                                #105
                                Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

                                I liked 2k better when they were the underdog.

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