VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

[natelull]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

Realistically what can we do to stop it? Hope someone sees this thread?


Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

[Geolink]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

It's about to be a full week of playing 2K18 and I still haven't bought any dribble moves or layup moves...

All the tiny amounts of VC has been spent on upgrades. LOL

[dragon4thQ]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

It's about to be a full week of playing 2K18 and I still haven't bought any dribble moves or layup moves...

All the tiny amounts of VC has been spent on upgrades. LOL

Got to remember its not a Barbie game

[Dragn1066]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

It's about to be a full week of playing 2K18 and I still haven't bought any dribble moves or layup moves...

All the tiny amounts of VC has been spent on upgrades. LOL

I was tossing up Live 18 and 2K18 this year. I ended up going with 2k mostly because the game just plays so much smoother. Live had slight input lag that I felt was going to really bother me after awhile.

Part of me is having buyers remorse. While the gameplay might be better, the blatant cash grabs are sad. I bought a beard, then changed it the next day. It didn't look at all how I thought it would from the button, and you can't switch back to the other beard, you had to rebuy it. The lack of preview is insane, the fact you have to rebuy it is even worse. And this all comes at a loss of spending that vc to upgrade your character.

And if you want to play another archtype? Too bad, absolutely nothing is shared.

[Swish_41]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

I worked 4 hrs extra for this vc, got 60 bucks and bought some pizza and a psn card... Pre release ireally did not want to buy vc but when i realised how much time it will take to get to an 85 i thought WTF 2k !?!

I really appreciate the gameplay developors work i love it but this money grab is going way to far i mean what about the schoolkids homework, real life or the workers who might catch 2 hrs max playtime a day, they get forced to buy vc except the wana get punished in the park the whole year...


2k giving us a 5-10%+ a year long for loyality and the big community support - that would be a nice move and im sure the devs would not suffer hunger

[eric7064]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

This has obviously been a growing trend in all sports games . The Ultimate team in EA games and Diamond Dynasty in the show. 2K with VC takes it even further.

The thing is, the games are selling well. 2k exceptionally well. In the past you would hardly ever see 3 different versions of a sports game. Now every major sports game has 3+ versions. All centered on card games or player building (2k).

Most of us here at OS are franchise based. But it is dying in all sports games. It will probably always be there. But for anyone to say it hasn't taken a back seat in any game is blind.

The people who buy the base $60 version, or don't buy VC/Card packs etc, are forgotten about the minute they purchase the game.

The second a person spends even $1 worth of micro's they are more valued as a customer. Now imagine the people that spend hundreds of dollars, streamers that spends thousands.

You think they care about the franchise guys that spend the base $60? Hell no.

In 2k's case, I find it honestly laughable that they mock, and point out the lack of franchise mode progression in sports games, yet MYGM/MY LEAGUE are absolutely littered with issues that make the mode unplayable. Features that literally took users 30 minutes to find out. That tells me they don't test a thing..

At least in Madden's case I never have to worry about game breaking bugs.

[ryocoola31]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

I was fine with VC until you realize you get a shoe deal with no park shoe freebie and get reprimanded for not wear any of the brand. I have save VC to get shoes to play at the park so I do not lose my shoe deal. And you only get 25vc per park game for wearing shoes. Really the worse honestly

Sent from my SM-J727U using Tapatalk

[Jrocc23]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

After spending some decent time in MYCareer I have to agree with most everyone that VC has all but ruined the mode. Seriously thinking about just devoting my time to NBA Lives The One mode. I don't have the desire nor the time to invest in this mode to earn enough VC to build my guy up to a respectable level. And I'm definitely not purchasing any. Sucks because I love the gameplay. I'm really enjoying the gameplay maybe I will just start a my league. What NBA player would do an endorsement deal that doesn't even pay them enough money to purchase a shooting sleeve

All facts. If you want the MyPlayer experience somewhat, you could just do a player locked MyLeague.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[WhiteBunny]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

VC is a classic free-to-play feature in a game which cost 60 bucks. It's a shame, plain and simple.

[spoofrice11]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

I agree the line has been crossed and don't see why a lot of people are throwing money at those modes. I buy a game for $60, and don't waste money on those other things.

I have little interest in Pay To Win games. So will be mostly playing my MyLeague.

[Junior Moe]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

As I said before, it's not for me to say whether 2K has crossed the line. I don't begrudge 2K (or any company) for trying to maximize profits. I don't begrudge the people who feel like they are getting gouged. The market and customer satisfaction will handle all that.

I look at it like this: I'm not a VC person but I do buy a lot of DLC for games. Mostly Minecraft, Destiny and Call of Duty for my son who enjoys those games. I've probably spend 3 times as much on Minecraft DLC than I did for the game a few years back. I don't particularly like having to buy stuff that probably should be included in the game. But, I buy everything else I enjoy so I while I don't like it I don't see it as inherently wrong. Yeah, there is a line. Where it resides is different for each person.

I love the ArkhamVerse. I did not want to pay for the Most Wanted DLC, but the universe is so rich and well crafted that it did. And i enjoyed it. But if you want something so bad that you cave and buy then either that product or marketing has done its job. I get many people aren't as cavalier as me. I'm not rich by any means. I just see this as where we are in gaming more so than I do some nefarious grab.

[PhillyIMBlog.com]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

Hey people want to keep buying VC then let them. They're only increasing the prices of our shares [emoji847]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Wingzero]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

I actually don't mind 2K charging VC for everything. What pisses me are the items that are locked behind ratings caps. I mean, it makes sense that you can't buy certain animations until you reach a certain level (like advanced dribble moves for example). But locking shoes and clothes behind ratings is just evil.

2K is telling us that before you can pay us 4,000 VC for a Jordan shoe, you have to pay us more VC first to level up your player. That's the greedy part.

[scottyp180]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

It's really sad and shamefull that they managed out to launch an awesome game, with a lot of improvements over last years one, but this whole VC greedy crap is tooking the all the headlines.

People should stop buying stuff like this. As long as people are buying they have a reason to keep tunning it up year after year. This hurts our whole community simply because we can't enjoy the game the way is was supposed to be.

I'll just stick with playing MyLeague and hoping that this disrespectfull bs stops soon.

The thing is you aren't going to get people to stop buying. As long as it is offered people will buy for various reasons (easier to pay for VC than grind, they don't have the time to grind, paying money isn't an issue, etc).

In this situation the best option might be to voice our displeasure with the system. They'll never get rid of VC because it is far too profitable but they can certainly make adjustments if they feel their customers are upset about the feature. Maybe they can remove having to pay for some cosmetic things like haircuts and beards, or at least make them cheaper. Same goes for accessories. I can't imagine there are any NBA players that need to manage their money in order to pay for such things (do they even need to pay for accessories?).

2k could also adjust how VC is rewarded. With a modes like this there should be a grind. It wouldn't be much fun if it was quick and easy to upgrade your character to a high level or, in my team, if it was too easy to earn enough VC for packs. However there could be changes made for rewarding more VC for certain accomplishments and achievements that way there is more incentive to grind vs paying for upgrades.

2k might also make changes if they see a drop in the number of users playing such modes. With the new features added to this mode, namely the neighborhood, this should be the most popular the mode has ever been. But if 2k notices the number of players hasn't increased since last year, or even decreases, 2k might realize they took the VC too far and drove players away as a result.

[stocksy]

Re: VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

I believe of all the games I play 2k with VC crossed the line previously but major players (youtubers and Operation sports itself) convinced many it was a justified and acceptable practise.
It isn't and wasn't.

They have continued to push the boundaries and again we are contanstly told by "impartial" parties it's to keep the cost down and for those that don't want to grind.

its never been about either.

Its greed and exploiting the young.

The gaming industry is only damaging itself by doing this.

The backlash is coming.

Shame that major modes I want to play in several games I have to avo