VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

[Barncore]

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Same here. A whole review about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjD2im2TjaY

NBA YouPay18

This guy nails it about the microtransactions. But the problem i have with this review is that he says that the textures/faces/Neighbourhood is horrible looking. I wish he didn't say that because it kinda ruins his credibility imo, those things actually look great. Also i think he overrates how good the audio has been over the years

[newhere]

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NBA YouPay18

This guy nails it about the microtransactions. But the problem i have with this review is that he says that the textures/faces/Neighbourhood is horrible looking. I wish he didn't say that because it kinda ruins his credibility imo, those things actually look great. Also i think he overrates how good the audio has been over the years

They are not great compared to modern games, especially the textures in the neighbourhood.

[FerdBrown]

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Can we still earn VC in MyLeague and MyGM?

[Nza]

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Let's say you get 600VC/30 mins game time, averaged out between your beginning OVR til 85OVR. The VC cost to get 85OVR is around 190k-200k. Let's be real sweet to 2K and say it's 190k. Heck, let's even make it 180k just to prove a point (nah, just easier to calculate since no decimal points lel).

It'll take you 300 matches to accumulate 180k VC. That's 9000 minutes, or 150 hours. That's at least a month if you play pretty hardcore (over 4 hours a day). If you can manage 2 hours/day that's 2 over two months.

Part of me was deliberately trying to ignore the math in case it came back as ridiculous as this. Now that I've seen it, I'm pretty sure I'll abandon my 67 OVR and MyCareer entirely before I waste any more time - I wouldn't even average 2hrs a day, so ~3 months for ONE CHARACTER is insane. I would sometimes have up to 3 characters going, because I find it hard to commit to one archetype day in and out.

I'm traditionally an offline MyCareer first player, so the game purchase will probably end up being regrettable.

The thing is it isn't so much an objection on paying extra for me, I actually want to grind a bit because it feels like you're making progress, like a real player would. But this is unacceptable.

[blk5tar5]

VC in NBA 2K18: Have We Crossed a Line of Acceptability?

Has 2K cross the line really! Cmon this a business and if you owned a business you’re whole objective is to make money [emoji383]. Last year 2K17 racked in $420 million dollars that’s 21% higher than from 2K16 with $353 million in the same fiscal year.

2K is so blatant about VC they known people would pay to get their players up to 99. Most videos games now today are all about micro transactions.

Again last year micro transactions earned 2K $567 million dollars for 2K17. Could you image what they forecasted what they can get this year. You would have to asked yourself what is the your worth of playing a game that will never change?




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[xanman1]

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this vc bs already tarnished the legacy of this game !!!

[Mweemwee]

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This guy goes into some good points although the language is a bit crazy at times, his comments about them borrowing their business model from freemium mobile games is true though

https://youtu.be/c9gwtmcB_TM

https://youtu.be/oeZB8z1vQ2w

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[geezy]

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Chris Smoove’s video on this was awesome, shame more of theYouTube 2K community members don’t air 2K out about the use of VC this year, would go a long way in getting things changed I think.

[FerdBrown]

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How much VC are you guys getting from a MyGM or MyLeague play?

[24ct]

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The grind in this game only feels extremely slow because there's an extremely fast option.

Let's say you get 600VC/30 mins game time, averaged out between your beginning OVR til 85OVR. The VC cost to get 85OVR is around 190k-200k. Let's be real sweet to 2K and say it's 190k. Heck, let's even make it 180k just to prove a point (nah, just easier to calculate since no decimal points lel).

It'll take you 300 matches to accumulate 180k VC. That's 9000 minutes, or 150 hours. That's at least a month if you play pretty hardcore (over 4 hours a day). If you can manage 2 hours/day that's 2 over two months.

Compared to the whooping 2 minutes it takes to buy VC.

If they left in the difficulty multiplier, it would've helped a lot. x2 for HoF would cut that down to 75hours, which is more comparable to previous titles.

TL;DR just bring back the HoF bonus multiplier for VC. Bring VC gains back to around 2K16 levels would be adequate for the kind of customization cost they're expecting us to pay.

See, my thing is, the grind to get 200k VC isn't THAT bad. It's actually decent. That's 1 month of a game that has a 12 month span with no DLC. You do get bonus VC for shoe contracts and wearing certain gear in park and etc. The grind is long compared to buying 50 worth of VC to buy rep to get to an 85 tho.

The BIGGEST problem is this platform that 2k has is the worst and by far the only company that has a true to life pay to win market with VC. They tied overall to reputation so instead of having to play the game to rep up, you can literally just PAY real money to be an 85. Imagine if you bought COD and were able to BUY prestige. Or buy Destiny 2 and able to buy to get to level 20 and get all gear to 305 with real money.

It STILL wouldn't be like 2k pay to win game because even if you're prestige you still have to shoot other ppl and have good aim. You don't get aim bot and etc. But with 2k overall ratings mean EVERYTHING. You lose rebounds, steals, miss shots solely based on your overall. I'm a 90 and I miss layups when ppl are behind me lol.

The worst thing about the overall being reputation is you're also locked out of stuff like animations and hair based on rep/overall. Which would be a good idea if you weren't able to just buy it for $50. Its really shameful and this is the worst year ever for 2k in terms of VC and this pay to win stuff. Before it was like okay. I just need a 90 handle to get these moves. Now you need a 90 handle and a 75 overall or a 70 overall to buy dunk animations and stuff like really 2k?

On the flip side I guess you don't have to go to park until you're actually ready to play or you just wanna have fun , but the fact that it's not an even playing field when you get out there isn't fun. The amount of 85 overalls on the 1st day was INSANE. Theres no way I should load into a game I just bought and see ppl at max/capped out rating before they even actually play the game. Not to mention those same ppl will be playing all day everyday. Get the upgrades then just buy the next set of VC to upgrade their rep to a 90.

Locking ppl out of stuff that other ppl can just buy with real money is a terrible strat. It would be a good idea if you could only use purchased VC to buy cosmetics & animations (like other games) but 2k is literally like here buy our game for $60 then pay another $50 to be able to jump right into PVP and be on the same level as everyone else that paid $50 within the 1st 30 minutes. It's TERRIBLE. This is by far the worst and most scummy thing 2k has ever done.

I play a lot of video games and I've never played a game that was as pay to win as this game is right now. It's laughable. The game is fun. I enjoy playing it with my friends. And against others. But the fact that it would take a month to grind out for something that someone only takes 30 seconds to buy is a really bad business move and strategy as far as customer care goes. For 2k it's great. They get $110 per copy because ppl don't wanna go against other high rated players since there's no matchmaking, but from an ethical standpoint this is the worst pay to win stuff I've ever seen in a video game ever.

This will continue as long as ppl buy VC tho.

[thevardano]

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How much VC are you guys getting from a MyGM or MyLeague play?

Basically nothing. I just played 12 min. quarter full game in MyGm and got something like 10 or 20 VC. I bet 2k bosses are starving so they need every penny they can get from people.

[nddot]

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Basically nothing. I just played 12 min. quarter full game in MyGm and got something like 10 or 20 VC. I bet 2k bosses are starving so they need every penny they can get from people.

Wtf


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[Aceboonkoon]

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Absolutely yes.. I've been a 2k fan since 2k started and I've love every game until now.. Vc has completely ruin the game.. Im very disappointed this year

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[FerdBrown]

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Basically nothing. I just played 12 min. quarter full game in MyGm and got something like 10 or 20 VC. I bet 2k bosses are starving so they need every penny they can get from people.

**** man. Those greedy bastards. I just tried and went to MyTeam (easiest way to check VC on top right corner) and I earned what - 30 VC!

[Mweemwee]

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2K has resorted to booting me out of the game at the screen after the game where it is "saving VC earnings" so it doesn't have to pay out [emoji23] 2 games in a row now it just exits the app and goes to the Xbox home screen

Since I've been counting I've lost almost 10k VC from MyCareer games that aren't paying out

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