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  • Mweemwee
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    • Sep 2016
    • 495

    #16
    Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
    Basically this.

    You're equating those inconsequential clips of the head to your drives success, when they don't have anything to do with one another.

    If you go back and play 2K17, where it was much, much harder to get past your man...you will see the same thing if you go into replay....the kind of clipping you are showing has been going on, it's not really a new discovery.

    That said, there is definitely an uptick in clipping in 2K18 due to the new animation system, and there are real examples where clipping has actually caused an unrealistic outcome...but I wouldn't say any of these clips are examples of that.
    I have to disagree. The clip of Austin rivers morphing through me, I played perfect d and should have had the steal or at least forced him back and ate up more of his 8 seconds but he just went through me.

    And any time in any of the clips where someone got past they should have been pushed back.

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    • Johnnythelegend
      Pro
      • Mar 2010
      • 812

      #17
      Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

      Can't you post things like these into Bugs & Glitches thead, i am avoiding the general 2k forum because of things like these, things i would never notice but when i do i can't unsee it, i wanted to go to rosters forum but when i saw this title i just had to open it, now i catch myself looking and trying to see if there was clipping on the drive/play or not etc, i am enjoying the new driving system, last year's was really bad, you say they should've been "pushed back", you know that that's a foul, you play defense with your feet not arms...

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      • El_Poopador
        MVP
        • Oct 2013
        • 2624

        #18
        Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

        Originally posted by Mweemwee

        And any time in any of the clips where someone got past they should have been pushed back.

        That is how past 2k games have handled that, and it was frustrating and unrealistic. If anything, the examples you posted should result in a foul, not a player being unrealistically stopped in his tracks.



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        • Mweemwee
          Banned
          • Sep 2016
          • 495

          #19
          Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

          I don't mean pushed back with your arms lol, I mean pushed back as in moved backwards. British terminology, sorry.

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          • ksuttonjr76
            All Star
            • Nov 2004
            • 8662

            #20
            Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

            I watched the first five seconds of each clip, and first thought was...."Why the hell are you hugged up on the man that close anyways???".

            If that was a human defender, then it's your fault. If it was an AI defender, I would try to figure out why they're playing "smother" defense.

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            • Mweemwee
              Banned
              • Sep 2016
              • 495

              #21
              Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

              Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
              I watched the first five seconds of each clip, and first thought was...."Why the hell are you hugged up on the man that close anyways???".

              If that was a human defender, then it's your fault. If it was an AI defender, I would try to figure out why they're playing "smother" defense.
              Sorry I don't understand this post. How could it my fault that it's clipping. I don't understand how this post relates to clipping?

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              • ksuttonjr76
                All Star
                • Nov 2004
                • 8662

                #22
                Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                Originally posted by Mweemwee
                Sorry I don't understand this post. How could it my fault that it's clipping. I don't understand how this post relates to clipping?
                The clipping is just a symptom of the real issue. You're playing to close to the ball handler. IRL, the less space a defender has to react to the offensive player, the easier it becomes to get by said defensive player.

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                • TheDuggler
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 728

                  #23
                  Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                  I get what you're trying to show, but instead just try showing how it affects regular gameplay rather than super zoomed in replays. I find it disorienting and hard to tell what exactly is going on when all I can see is two people

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                  • Mweemwee
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 495

                    #24
                    Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                    Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                    The clipping is just a symptom of the real issue. You're playing to close to the ball handler. IRL, the less space a defender has to react to the offensive player, the easier it becomes to get by said defensive player.
                    Um...im not complaining at being able to get past, I'm saying that people are going through people's bodies rather than the defender having any effect on the ball handler...

                    So you're saying I should stay away from people and not approach them for fear of clipping? I'm not getting your point here.

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                    • Mweemwee
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 495

                      #25
                      Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                      Originally posted by TheDuggler
                      I get what you're trying to show, but instead just try showing how it affects regular gameplay rather than super zoomed in replays. I find it disorienting and hard to tell what exactly is going on when all I can see is two people
                      I wanted to do that but the only way is literally to stream a game as I only have the "record that" function of the Xbox one to work with which shows you roughly the last 20 seconds of play.

                      That's why I said just load up your own game and see it for yourself. you don't have to take my word for it.

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                      • ksuttonjr76
                        All Star
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 8662

                        #26
                        Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                        Originally posted by Mweemwee
                        Um...im not complaining at being able to get past, I'm saying that people are going through people's bodies rather than the defender having any effect on the ball handler...

                        So you're saying I should stay away from people and not approach them for fear of clipping? I'm not getting your point here.
                        Do you not know how to play defense without being hugged up on the ball handler?



                        This video is old as hell, but it's still relevant to this day.

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                        • Mweemwee
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 495

                          #27
                          Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                          Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                          Do you not know how to play defense without being hugged up on the ball handler?



                          This video is old as hell, but it's still relevant to this day.
                          You do know I'm the offensive player don't you??? That guy isn't an NBA player, he's me...

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                          • ksuttonjr76
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                            • Nov 2004
                            • 8662

                            #28
                            Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                            Originally posted by Mweemwee
                            You do know I'm the offensive player don't you??? That guy isn't an NBA player, he's me...
                            And this is why your thread is a joke and a crybaby complaint. I posted the proper way to play defense in 2K, and you came back with a lame comment.

                            Oh yeah... I'm pretty sure you made a comment about how you played "perfect defense" against Austin Rivers, but he still got pass you due to the clipping.

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                            • ksuttonjr76
                              All Star
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 8662

                              #29
                              Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                              Originally posted by Mweemwee
                              I have to disagree. The clip of Austin rivers morphing through me, I played perfect d and should have had the steal or at least forced him back and ate up more of his 8 seconds but he just went through me.

                              And any time in any of the clips where someone got past they should have been pushed back.
                              Just in case you try to edit your post...perfect defense...whatever, lol.

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                              • whatitisinsports
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 355

                                #30
                                Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                                These are jusy random inconsequential videos of clipping...its ugly, yes.but it doesn't really show us how 'game breaking' the driving is supposed to be...

                                We didn't even get to see how these possesions ended..

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                                Um, you have played the game. They end in a basket or a foul called for you 7/10 times against whoever. My team is 7th ranked atm with phenomenal badged up 90 overall bigs and people just run in and throw up horrendous shots at the rim to either a magic basket or a foul. We've had several games where we move out of the way and see what the game does and it will be a foul after the clipping. I assure you it is not random.

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