Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

[kidanything2]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

More likely it feels this way to you because you remember the AI's makes more than their misses.

I played a game vs the Warrior where I felt the same way, seemed like Curry was too good from 3. End of the game I checked his stats and he was 7 of 15

Let me play devil's advocate. I posted this in another thread.

Was playing a pack and playoffs game. I had a big slow pf and the other guy had LeBron at pf. I'm not good at on ball d so I figured I'd play way way off one game and see what happened. He took the three and missed a lot. Eventually I just ran away from every shooter because he wouldn't stop shooting them.

He was 10/35 at the end of the game and I won. That's too low for me literally leaving him wide open on purpose.

In competitive modes like that getting the open shot should be rewarded. If not why am I playing? Just to have the cpu decide which shots go in at random?

I understand some people want to see realistic percentages. But I'd rather lose by someone hitting an unrealistic percentage if I can't stop him from getting open than win by giving up 35 open threes knowing it's not going to hurt me

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[Pizarro24]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

Let me play devil's advocate. I posted this in another thread.

Was playing a pack and playoffs game. I had a big slow pf and the other guy had LeBron at pf. I'm not good at on ball d so I figured I'd play way way off one game and see what happened. He took the three and missed a lot. Eventually I just ran away from every shooter because he wouldn't stop shooting them.

He was 10/35 at the end of the game and I won. That's too low for me literally leaving him wide open on purpose.

In competitive modes like that getting the open shot should be rewarded. If not why am I playing? Just to have the cpu decide which shots go in at random?

I understand some people want to see realistic percentages. But I'd rather lose by someone hitting an unrealistic percentage if I can't stop him from getting open than win by giving up 35 open threes knowing it's not going to hurt me

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Completely disagree with this.

In real life, teams shoot 10/35 while being open on most of the shots, it´s called a bad shooting night.

The problem is: if they change shooting % online, it also is changed offline.
And I, like many others, don´t care for online play at all.

[kidanything2]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

Well I think that's a difference between online and offline. Why can't they have two different gameplays? In a dynasty sure, I wouldn't mind a bad shooting night. But I don't want to win or lose a competitive game that effects ranking up and myteam rewards because of some intangible thing like a bad shooting night.

I want to win or lose based on things I can control. Like getting open shots. It doesn't have to be automatic either. If that guy would've shot 50% instead of 28 he would've won. Which I would've been fine with. I was done from the beginning based on matchups (Which I can also control) so I went out on a limb and left the perimeter wide open. Instead of being punished for him reacting accordingly I was rewarded.

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[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

Let me play devil's advocate. I posted this in another thread.

Was playing a pack and playoffs game. I had a big slow pf and the other guy had LeBron at pf. I'm not good at on ball d so I figured I'd play way way off one game and see what happened. He took the three and missed a lot. Eventually I just ran away from every shooter because he wouldn't stop shooting them.

He was 10/35 at the end of the game and I won. That's too low for me literally leaving him wide open on purpose.

In competitive modes like that getting the open shot should be rewarded. If not why am I playing? Just to have the cpu decide which shots go in at random?

I understand some people want to see realistic percentages. But I'd rather lose by someone hitting an unrealistic percentage if I can't stop him from getting open than win by giving up 35 open threes knowing it's not going to hurt me

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But you're assuming that your opponent had good shot releases. If it was ME, I would have killed you on those open looks, lol. On the flip side, if I happened to miss a lot of shots, I probably would started taking long 2's.

[Pizarro24]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

Well I think that's a difference between online and offline. Why can't they have two different gameplays? In a dynasty sure, I wouldn't mind a bad shooting night. But I don't want to win or lose a competitive game that effects ranking up and myteam rewards because of some intangible thing like a bad shooting night.

I want to win or lose based on things I can control. Like getting open shots. It doesn't have to be automatic either. If that guy would've shot 50% instead of 28 he would've won. Which I would've been fine with. I was done from the beginning based on matchups (Which I can also control) so I went out on a limb and left the perimeter wide open. Instead of being punished for him reacting accordingly I was rewarded.

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Trust me, if they ever find a way to patch online and offline seperate, no one on this forum will be happier than me. That day I will cry tears of joy.

Offline, in previous 2K´s, I had to lower the shooting sliders to the low 40´s or even lower, took me dozens of games to find the right settings. Now I have the 3-Pt-Shooting at 49 (remember: 50 is default) and overall the 3-Pt.% is absolutely realistic.
So I assume shooting is fine as it is.

[tjery14]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

Well I think that's a difference between online and offline. Why can't they have two different gameplays? In a dynasty sure, I wouldn't mind a bad shooting night. But I don't want to win or lose a competitive game that effects ranking up and myteam rewards because of some intangible thing like a bad shooting night.

I want to win or lose based on things I can control. Like getting open shots. It doesn't have to be automatic either. If that guy would've shot 50% instead of 28 he would've won. Which I would've been fine with. I was done from the beginning based on matchups (Which I can also control) so I went out on a limb and left the perimeter wide open. Instead of being punished for him reacting accordingly I was rewarded.

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I dont get you. Most NBA teams have about 37% from wide open 3s. So in real life NBA teams arent punished for leaving guys open so why should they get punished in game that pretends to be simulation? This game is based on statistics not only on skill, you can be better but you have Sacramento and other guy have GSW, he can beat you even if hes playing bad basketball, thats not Quake where better always win.

[Beluba]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

Trust me, if they ever find a way to patch online and offline seperate, no one on this forum will be happier than me. That day I will cry tears of joy.

Offline, in previous 2K´s, I had to lower the shooting sliders to the low 40´s or even lower, took me dozens of games to find the right settings. Now I have the 3-Pt-Shooting at 49 (remember: 50 is default) and overall the 3-Pt.% is absolutely realistic.
So I assume shooting is fine as it is.

FWIW, online and offline modes can be tweaked separately already.

[DakkoN]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

So where do we complain about sharps hitting 80% from 3 on fingers up nose defense? Cause that's definitely a problem right now. Brain dead sharps can average 20 a game by standing at the coach box line and firing regardless of the defense because it considers anything that isn't deny ball defense "lightly contested".

[ggsimmonds]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

Well I think that's a difference between online and offline. Why can't they have two different gameplays? In a dynasty sure, I wouldn't mind a bad shooting night. But I don't want to win or lose a competitive game that effects ranking up and myteam rewards because of some intangible thing like a bad shooting night.

I want to win or lose based on things I can control. Like getting open shots. It doesn't have to be automatic either. If that guy would've shot 50% instead of 28 he would've won. Which I would've been fine with. I was done from the beginning based on matchups (Which I can also control) so I went out on a limb and left the perimeter wide open. Instead of being punished for him reacting accordingly I was rewarded.

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We have to agree to disagree on that.

Your stance is valid, but one I do not share.

Dealing with things like bad shooting nights is a part of the sport, and it should be a factor in online play just as it is offline.

"I want to win or lose based on things I can control."
I'm sure real life NBA players and coaches would say the same thing

[tigga334]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

Since so many ppl are complaining about missing wide open 3s:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/w...-defenses-pay/

Its from reddit. Nba teams have 35-45% form wide open 3s, Steph has 46%.

The issue in my opinion isnt as black and white as you make it. You are right, no one should make 50+% on wide open three's but it seems even in a shootaround at the apartment with no defense around at all, good release go in at about a 20 to 30 % clip. No nba player considered a sharpshooter would shoot that percentage. Theres something not right about good releases.

[Beluba]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

So where do we complain about sharps hitting 80% from 3 on fingers up nose defense? Cause that's definitely a problem right now. Brain dead sharps can average 20 a game by standing at the coach box line and firing regardless of the defense because it considers anything that isn't deny ball defense "lightly contested".

Are you closing late? If it's lightly contested it usually means you're gapped too far off when he starts his shot. You wanna hug up on pure sharps as much as you can.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

Are you closing late? If it's lightly contested it usually means you're gapped too far off when he starts his shot. You wanna hug up on pure sharps as much as you can.

He's baaaccckkkk!

[DakkoN]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

Are you closing late? If it's lightly contested it usually means you're gapped too far off when he starts his shot. You wanna hug up on pure sharps as much as you can.

Hell, it's not even me complaining about being scored on.. It happens just as much with my own team as anyone else.. My cousin, who I would consider a way below average shot selection taker, is averaging close to 25 a game since he made the switch to Sharp and hits some of the most "WUT?" shots that I've seen just because of all the combinations of badges that are activating on their shots.. Limitless/Corner Specialist, Catch and Shoot, Deep Range Deadeye, Pick and Popper, plus the Dimer and Pick and Roll Maestro from the guard (me).. Defense doesn't matter when they are having at LEAST 3 shot percentage affecting badges kick in no matter what circumstance they're shooting in. I literally yell at him for how bad of shot he takes and he'll swish it and say it was a green light, and I'm just thinking like it's nonsense like that being rewarded is the reason that people's shot selection has never improved..

[Gosens6]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

Are you closing late? If it's lightly contested it usually means you're gapped too far off when he starts his shot. You wanna hug up on pure sharps as much as you can.

I know it's been stressed over and over and over again, but I have to say it one more time.

PLEASE do not change the core gameplay this year! It's darn near perfect right now. This is the best playing 2K that I have EVER played, and I've been playing since the very first one on Dreamcast.

You guys did a bang up job on the gameplay side of things this year, please let it play the way it is. Fix up the few bugs in My league and we're good to go!

[24ct]

Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

Are you closing late? If it's lightly contested it usually means you're gapped too far off when he starts his shot. You wanna hug up on pure sharps as much as you can.

Eh. I've lost games on players hitting contested 3's in the park over a 6'10 lockdown 3pt shooter.
Literally standing right in front of him using the right stick to contest...
Not late contests or anything but I'm not really complaining lol.

I think the shooting is pretty perfect.
The overall gameplay is fine it's just little bugs and jump passes being WAAAAYY too effective.

Like I'm a playmaker PG and I see 60 overall centers doing turn around fades at the 3 point line in the pro am only to jump pass out of it to a guy in the corner and connect on the pass.

But if I'm at the 3pt line and pull up but see a guy wide open under the hoop and pass it, it will go out of bounds.

Or having silver break starter and max passing but can't make a pass to a guy leaking out on the break but then I see guys (low rated centers) throwing full court passes off an inbound with Tom Brady accuracy. It's kind of like. Why make a playmaker lol but other than that. Shooting is fine.