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  • REEality
    Rookie
    • Oct 2016
    • 68

    #121
    Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

    Originally posted by Rsnake21
    I'm not talking about any other mode when I say this because I'm not familiar with it. I don't understand as a pro am player why you wouldn't want the most control of the outcome as possible? In real life when you miss a shot you're in 100% control of that outcome, not some unknown random algorithm that decides you should miss the shot. As a competitive pro am player the last few years I thought shooting was great(for the most part). It's the bad defense mechanics and unreal screens that made it ridiculous. The way it was last year the defense and offense were in control of the outcome
    In real life those shots aren't made 60-70% of the time. So the game should reflect reality. Even in ProAm Games. Guys aren't shooting and making every single shot. So in Proam 2K, why should they? I mean I almost never miss in proam and i feel like thats not even realistic
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    • Thunderhorse
      Rookie
      • Jun 2011
      • 485

      #122
      Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

      Originally posted by Keith01
      Idk, I think shooting is decent right now. Seen plenty of Sharps drain easy. Really don't want this thread to become the basis of a new patch that makes Sharpshooters completely godlike and unstoppable like 2k17.
      The problem with sharpshooters is they remain competent ball handlers.

      Now that they can pull the shot off the dribble, they are a cheat code. Meanwhile my Shot Creating playmaker can't hit the midrange unless I do a cheesy spin jumper.

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      • ViolenceFight
        MVP
        • Jun 2013
        • 1141

        #123
        Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

        I was with some of the noise until a guy said a person is in 100% control of hitting a shot in real life. I assume you've never played ball before. I've taken terrible shots that found the net, and I've gone 0/5 on the best looks I'll ever get in my life. You're never in a 100% control. There's so many other influences. Close out, sweaty palms, shot in rhythm, enough legs in it, etc.

        It's a ton of little things, but they effect outcome. I'll rock with you guys trying to spin your silly pro am argument on shooting, but phrases like that hurt your case, video game or not.

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        • temo4three
          Rookie
          • Jan 2011
          • 22

          #124
          Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

          I'm going to be honest, and I know a lot of people WONT say this... I have a Shot Creating Playmaker and I don't want to make more shots than I do. I already shoot over 50% from Three in MyPark and Pro am I'm shooting over 45% from Three and over 50% in MyCareer (HOF not that Online Park bs... I make over 70% with online park difficulty). If I make more than that I'll feel like a SharpShooter

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          • Rsnake21
            Rookie
            • Jan 2016
            • 128

            #125
            Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

            Originally posted by REEality
            In real life those shots aren't made 60-70% of the time. So the game should reflect reality. Even in ProAm Games. Guys aren't shooting and making every single shot. So in Proam 2K, why should they? I mean I almost never miss in proam and i feel like thats not even realistic
            So in a head to head mode you're unhappy that you make most of your shots? Why wouldn't you wanna be good enough to go say 10-10 from 3 if the defense isn't good enough to cover you? If a team can't play defense they should get punished and destroyed for it. Not bailed out because 2k has a rubber band system. Should defense be easier to play, absolutely. Should screens be toned down a lot, absolutely

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            • Rsnake21
              Rookie
              • Jan 2016
              • 128

              #126
              Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

              Originally posted by ViolenceFight
              I was with some of the noise until a guy said a person is in 100% control of hitting a shot in real life. I assume you've never played ball before. I've taken terrible shots that found the net, and I've gone 0/5 on the best looks I'll ever get in my life. You're never in a 100% control. There's so many other influences. Close out, sweaty palms, shot in rhythm, enough legs in it, etc.

              It's a ton of little things, but they effect outcome. I'll rock with you guys trying to spin your silly pro am argument on shooting, but phrases like that hurt your case, video game or not.

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              So when you take a shot in real life not counting if you get blocked, you're telling me that you are not 100% in control of that shot? Just like you mentioned all the reasons why the shot doesn't go in, you control those things

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              • temo4three
                Rookie
                • Jan 2011
                • 22

                #127
                Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

                Originally posted by Rsnake21
                So when you take a shot in real life not counting if you get blocked, you're telling me that you are not 100% in control of that shot? Just like you mentioned all the reasons why the shot doesn't go in, you control those things
                You are 100% control of your shot, but there are a lot of outside variables that can impact your shot as well.

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                • ViolenceFight
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 1141

                  #128
                  Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

                  Originally posted by Rsnake21
                  So when you take a shot in real life not counting if you get blocked, you're telling me that you are not 100% in control of that shot? Just like you mentioned all the reasons why the shot doesn't go in, you control those things
                  You are not in control of those things. That's the point. I can wipe sweat off on my shorts if I notice it, but do you think that's what your focused on mid possession? Sometimes you're fatigued, so when you take your shot your legs don't lift like they should. How do you control that? Sit out? That's not in your control. You control your shooting motion. If people were in absolute control, mind-boggling shooters like Curry or Klay would NEVER miss an open 3.

                  Even if everything is perfect, I can still miss. There's a Mike Tyson quote: "Everyone has a plan until then get punched in the face".

                  To relate it to basketball: "Everyone has a jumpshot until they get subbed into a real game". Curry went what, like 95/100 in a practice Gym, then will go 4/15 in the next nights game. Best Shooter on the planet shoots 45%ish on shots with out a defender within 6 feet of him.

                  Think about that: THE BEST SHOOTER ON THE PLANET shoots 9/20 without a defender within 6 feet of him(I.E: WIDE OPEN). So, that being said, I respect that you want shooting change, but the argument your presenting about how shooting works is fantasy nonsense.

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                  • The 24th Letter
                    ERA
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39373

                    #129
                    Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

                    Not enough video in this thread....

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                    • ViolenceFight
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 1141

                      #130
                      Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

                      Originally posted by temo4three
                      I'm going to be honest, and I know a lot of people WONT say this... I have a Shot Creating Playmaker and I don't want to make more shots than I do. I already shoot over 50% from Three in MyPark and Pro am I'm shooting over 45% from Three and over 50% in MyCareer (HOF not that Online Park bs... I make over 70% with online park difficulty). If I make more than that I'll feel like a SharpShooter
                      I got 66 in 3pt. I pull with no hesitation this year and hit way more than I should with a rating that low.

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                      • Rsnake21
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 128

                        #131
                        Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

                        Idk man I just don't get the argument of let 2k's strange algorithm of missed and made shots determine the outcome especially on full white bar good release. Instead of putting the out come in the offensive and defensive users hands. When shooting was easiest last year everybody still missed wide open shots. The difference is you knew it was on you and not something that wasn't in your control

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                        • Luke Skywalker
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 917

                          #132
                          Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

                          Originally posted by Pizarro24
                          Completely disagree with this.

                          In real life, teams shoot 10/35 while being open on most of the shots, it´s called a bad shooting night.

                          The problem is: if they change shooting % online, it also is changed offline.
                          And I, like many others, don´t care for online play at all.
                          The bold. I remember 2K13 around Christmas time changed the shooting online, and it was different from offline. The shooting online was awesome too. I think it was just for three-pointers. The online slider had to be set on 40-42. Then everyone complained, and they had to change it back.

                          I don't understand why don't they just change the online slider and leave offline the way it is! I love the offline gameplay this year.

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                          • Luke Skywalker
                            Pro
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 917

                            #133
                            Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

                            Originally posted by Rsnake21
                            Idk man I just don't get the argument of let 2k's strange algorithm of missed and made shots determine the outcome especially on full white bar good release. Instead of putting the out come in the offensive and defensive users hands. When shooting was easiest last year everybody still missed wide open shots. The difference is you knew it was on you and not something that wasn't in your control
                            I believe the algorithm is tied into the slider? If I raise my midrange slider to 100, I don't think algorithms would dictate anything especially in a game. I will be hitting midrange shots extremely successful even on bad releases.

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                            • xCoachDx
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 1295

                              #134
                              Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

                              Originally posted by Luke Skywalker
                              The bold. I remember 2K13 around Christmas time changed the shooting online, and it was different from offline. The shooting online was awesome too. I think it was just for three-pointers. The online slider had to be set on 40-42. Then everyone complained, and they had to change it back.

                              I don't understand why don't they just change the online slider and leave offline the way it is! I love the offline gameplay this year.


                              I don't feel like it's too complicated. Scale up open threes, scale down contested threes and contested layups.


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                              • The 24th Letter
                                ERA
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 39373

                                #135
                                Re: Stop complaining about not making 50%+ wide open 3s

                                Originally posted by Luke Skywalker
                                The bold. I remember 2K13 around Christmas time changed the shooting online, and it was different from offline. The shooting online was awesome too. I think it was just for three-pointers. The online slider had to be set on 40-42. Then everyone complained, and they had to change it back.

                                I don't understand why don't they just change the online slider and leave offline the way it is! I love the offline gameplay this year.
                                Online has their own slider set

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