I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

[The 24th Letter]

Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

Definitely seeing a difference

https://streamable.com/w6fcr

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[Settlon]

Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

After reading this thread, I actually always played defense like this just out of habit and never realized.

[jk31]

Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

can someone please sum up what to do? i opened up the Video but am on my mobile phone with out Sound. 13 min Video without sound is Not doing it for Me

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[killakrok]

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Definitely seeing a difference

https://streamable.com/w6fcr

1. that is the first forced dribble pick up animation I have seen this year.
2. Half of Kobe's foot is out of bounds in the second clip hahaha.

[hanzsomehanz]

Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

Do you agree with the defensive animation that interrupts the hip ride or is it irrelevant at this point? Irrelevant because any counter will do at this point lol

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[MrWrestling3]

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Seems to me like timing the RS+turbo just right plus the direction you are holding the LS relative to the offensive player triggers different defensive animations; I've gotten everything from forced pick ups to that running push off animation that looks like it should be foul but is never called.I would still recommend also using the triangle button to contest fadeaway/ step back shots just to be sure.

The only other thing to watch for is that you can get yourself out of position pretty easily if you jam on the sticks too much. For a less aggressive version, you can also do L2+RS toward the offensive player without turbo.The key to either version is beating the offensive player to the spot first.

[alabamarob]

Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

After playing-

'12 Heat LeBron
'96 Bulls Jordan
'12 Thunder KD

I can say pretty confidently say this works!

I'll post some video when I get a chance but it really does cut off the hip ride in the right position....all this time I've been holding the stick up instead of at the ball handler...

The only issue now is being able to use it effectively as a whole on D....its a little awkward as far as controller position for me right now....

Good stuff Pham....

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Don't even have to use turbo every time. The right stick and L stick can trigger this also.

[MrCrashAndBurn]

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I don't have any video proof, but I can say this really does help. It helps stop those turbo blow-bys. I still tend to actually jump to contest the jumpshot, but this helps me stay in good position and stop them from slipping around me.

Nice find

[Nwordbelike]

Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

After reading this thread, I actually always played defense like this just out of habit and never realized.

Same here, I had no issues with the hip riding most of the time they beat by surprise but the right stick has forever changed the way I play D

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

I thought people were already doing this . Picked this up last year to stop all those offball cuts in pro am . It also helps to stop those big man that try to camp for standing dunk animations . Helps a lot with those drives.

Still I should be able to draw a charge from it. You have to take the charge before the animation engages right now .

[ksuttonjr76]

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I thought people were already doing this . Picked this up last year to stop all those offball cuts in pro am . It also helps to stop those big man that try to camp for standing dunk animations . Helps a lot with those drives.

Still I should be able to draw a charge from it. You have to take the charge before the animation engages right now .

Personally, I started using it less last year, since I felt the RS was picking up too many fouls due to the "choosing a hand to steal" feature. This year, I was mainly relying on good positional defense and icon switching to stop players from driving, and I only use the RS when I wanted to contest the actual shot. If the RS+LS+Turbo (maybe) combination on driving players can help me control my main complaint about Play Now Online, then this will be game changer for me.

I thought I used to play with the RS more often, but I honestly don't remember when I started relying on it less and less. NBA 2K14 or 2K13 didn't have any blocks, NBA 2K15 was destroyed by the infamous Patch 5, NBA 2K16 was more about the slider adjustments by Wang (RS wasn't really needed as much), and NBA 2K17 was the worse game to me ever (took the crown from NBA 2K12).

[The 24th Letter]

Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

I played with the right stick already, but for the most part, pointed upward...

The flagrant fouls that RS pointed toward the offensive players used to draw in 2K16 probably scared me off of it., lol

I honestly wouldnt have even thought of trying this, so I definitely appreciate it. This and messing around with some of the rotation settings has really improved my defense...

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[The 24th Letter]

Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

Do you agree with the defensive animation that interrupts the hip ride or is it irrelevant at this point? Irrelevant because any counter will do at this point lol

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It causes some ugly interactions, but it at least seems to have some logic behind it...it doesn't work if you're out of position and guys like RWB will still get his hip around you if your too close....


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[itchyroll_51]

Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

I played with the right stick already, but for the most part, pointed upward...

The flagrant fouls that RS pointed toward the offensive players used to draw in 2K16 probably scared me off of it., lol

I honestly wouldnt have even thought of trying this, so I definitely appreciate it. This and messing around with some of the rotation settings has really improved my defense...

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Talking about rotation settings, with my discovery of how effective this is I have actually designed a new set of settings for defensive rotations. I will post that thread when I get that tutorial finished, but the key is to use stay attach more now. If you can ride the handler, stay attach becomes uber good to stop screener from doing anything lol But then it takes a certain combination / commitment to off ball settings; too hard to explain without video lol But yes i am very happy to hear from everyone that this is translating well. I was afraid I stumble on something and couldn't explain it properly lol

Best thing about this is that there's a lot of skill involved because positioning wins the day with this RS technique. That tho is light years better than before where even with good position other guy can just hip turbo spam by us regardless ....... Good times ahead with this tho lol I am having more fun online and local play vs friends because of this.

Sam

[WayTay]

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Shame the AI can't make use of this technique, as you can blow by any AI defender with any user controlled attacker in this game practically at will.

Exactly, drives me crazy this year. Way too easy to blow by CPU defender. I've tried every slider setting possible to boost CPU and even nerf me just to make some type of force field when I try to blow by. Nothing works, can still get to basket super easy. Have you found any slider or setting or trick that works?!

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