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  • itchyroll_51
    Pro
    • Jan 2012
    • 797

    #31
    Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

    Originally posted by WayTay
    Exactly, drives me crazy this year. Way too easy to blow by CPU defender. I've tried every slider setting possible to boost CPU and even nerf me just to make some type of force field when I try to blow by. Nothing works, can still get to basket super easy. Have you found any slider or setting or trick that works?!

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    Give every AI player you face HOF lock down defender badge. I do this when i play sometimes to make the game harder.

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    • jk31
      MVP
      • Sep 2014
      • 2660

      #32
      Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

      Okay, now at home I watched the video. For anyone else tired of watching 13 min videos, here is what Sam Pham says as text:

      Push right stick towards the driving player while pressing turbo and push the left stick towards to where you want to cut the driving player off. That's all. No need to waste 13 mins watching a video^^

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      • EarvGotti
        MVP
        • Nov 2009
        • 2249

        #33
        Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

        Sam while I can confirm that this is really effective in PNO, it doesn't seem to work that well in My Team. Which sucks because thats the main mode i play.

        I'm sure it's because of the low difficulty and slider settings but can you test this in My Team Online and see what results you get?
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        • swac07
          MVP
          • Feb 2007
          • 1842

          #34
          Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

          The funny thing is I have been doing this since I had the game I thought everybody was doing it guess not LOL

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          • hanzsomehanz
            MVP
            • Oct 2009
            • 3275

            #35
            Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

            A lot of folks are saying they have already been doing this and it's amusing. 😀

            It wasn't too long ago (2k16) where you were able to use the right stick to slide into defensive positions and cut off or force offensive angles.

            In 2k16 this same ride the hip animation led to a lot of outcomes that people would consider canned. You could simply hold x (xbox) and either trigger a dunk or a layup that was very hard to dissuade from going thru. It was very often the long stride layup that came out and you could pretty much anticipate with absolute certainty that it would drop regardless or ratings against rating or size differences.

            Earlier I asked about what your opinion is of the defensive animation. In my own opinion, I prefer the 2k16 battle albeit that series also needed more variety and propensity for fails against contact when the ball was ready to leave the driving player's hand.

            The 2k16 animation was clean and more fundamental but the kung-fu stance with the hand up as if to deliver a chip really gets me lol

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            • ksuttonjr76
              All Star
              • Nov 2004
              • 8662

              #36
              Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

              Originally posted by hanzsomehanz
              A lot of folks are saying they have already been doing this and it's amusing. [emoji3]

              It wasn't too long ago (2k16) where you were able to use the right stick to slide into defensive positions and cut off or force offensive angles.

              In 2k16 this same ride the hip animation led to a lot of outcomes that people would consider canned. You could simply hold x (xbox) and either trigger a dunk or a layup that was very hard to dissuade from going thru. It was very often the long stride layup that came out and you could pretty much anticipate with absolute certainty that it would drop regardless or ratings against rating or size differences.

              Earlier I asked about what your opinion is of the defensive animation. In my own opinion, I prefer the 2k16 battle albeit that series also needed more variety and propensity for fails against contact when the ball was ready to leave the driving player's hand.

              The 2k16 animation was clean and more fundamental but the kung-fu stance with the hand up as if to deliver a chip really gets me lol

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              I'm pretty sure the RS cutoff go further back than 2K16. The offense was so overpowered that people forgot over the years.

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              • jyoung
                Hall Of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11132

                #37
                Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

                Has anyone had success using this technique in Pro Am?

                Because most of the time when I press up or down to put my hands up with the right joystick and someone drives into me I lose the contact animation and get blown by. I play with my right joystick on absolute direction, if that matters. On that setting, I've noticed that whatever direction I press the joystick (up, down, left, or right), it just seems to increase my chances of getting blown by on drives, not decrease the chances.

                I feel like I do a better job of containing drives in Pro Am just by taking a good angle and using the left trigger to cut off the driver and bump them.

                And this is with me mostly playing on a 6'8" 240 pound small forward who has a 77 strength rating and the silver bruiser badge.

                I'm taller, heavier, stronger, and have better badges for man-to-man contact than most of my matchups at the small forward position, yet shorter, lighter, weaker sharpshooters/playmakers/shot creators/slashers who have no bruiser badge routinely blow by my guy on drives when I use the right joystick to put my hands up.
                Last edited by jyoung; 10-30-2017, 10:56 PM.

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                • alabamarob
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3338

                  #38
                  Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

                  <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3OioCtQxens" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

                  Some good defensive animations to stop dribble penetration. Most of them didnt involve turbo. Just the left and right stick.
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                  • UnbelievablyRAW
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1245

                    #39
                    Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

                    Originally posted by EarvGotti
                    Sam while I can confirm that this is really effective in PNO, it doesn't seem to work that well in My Team. Which sucks because thats the main mode i play.

                    I'm sure it's because of the low difficulty and slider settings but can you test this in My Team Online and see what results you get?
                    Pretty much this. You kind of have to throw your best perimeter defender at the best ball handler and just off ball it because its impossible to steer guys like Penny away from the basket in my team

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                    • ataman5
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 2620

                      #40
                      Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

                      Originally posted by alabamarob
                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3OioCtQxens" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

                      Some good defensive animations to stop dribble penetration. Most of them didnt involve turbo. Just the left and right stick.
                      Great video Rob, well explained, thank you.

                      On the other side of the things there should be more fouls fouls fouls and and there should be more interaction animations played out properly when this is being done.

                      It's a great defense and also stands for kinda like real basketball, arms are involved to stop the drive as they are involved in real life nba basketball so, great logic behind and some very very good advanced defending that really seperates good/bad skill of players. Good job to 2k first and hopefully they keep evolve on this onwards with new iterations...

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                      • jyoung
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11132

                        #41
                        Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

                        So has anyone gotten these cutoff animations to work in Pro Am?

                        From what I've read in this thread, the modes with the real NBA teams (Play Now, MyLeague, MyGM) seem to be the only ones where these cutoff animations are present?

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                        • jeebs9
                          Fear is the Unknown
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 47565

                          #42
                          Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

                          I have to say I've been using this for post defense.

                          I'm really happy to see Sam posting this kind of content lol.
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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #43
                            Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

                            This actually worked for me in MyTeam.

                            It was literally my first online game though.... basically a bunch of silver players....so that may be the difference...

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                            • itchyroll_51
                              Pro
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 797

                              #44
                              Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

                              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                              This actually worked for me in MyTeam.

                              It was literally my first online game though.... basically a bunch of silver players....so that may be the difference...

                              Sent from my SM-G955U using Operation Sports mobile app
                              The stronger the players the less reliable on lower difficulties, but it still holds fine for me even in the park. I have a part two of this coming up sometimes this week, watch that one and it should help you even more. This vid was more of an introduction to this technique. The more advance tutorial I have coming up is kinda like a combination of when to use RS,LS,and turbo. You can actually use them altogether, as duals, or independently. Is like combos of all three things can be created to counter MOST if not ALL offensive movements/animations with timing and correct positioning.

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                              • The 24th Letter
                                ERA
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 39373

                                #45
                                Re: I Found FIX + COUNTER vs Hip Riding Animation: OS PLEASE test this for me !

                                Originally posted by itchyroll_51
                                The stronger the players the less reliable on lower difficulties, but it still holds fine for me even in the park. I have a part two of this coming up sometimes this week, watch that one and it should help you even more. This vid was more of an introduction to this technique. The more advance tutorial I have coming up is kinda like a combination of when to use RS,LS,and turbo. You can actually use them altogether, as duals, or independently. Is like combos of all three things can be created to counter MOST if not ALL offensive movements/animations with timing and correct positioning.
                                I actually picked up on some things while trying this out the last couple of days....You may touch on them in your video but for now I'm keeping tbem to myself, lol

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