NBA 2K18 Patch #5 Available Now For PS4, Xbox One - Soon For PC, Switch - Patch Notes

[Roger_Black]

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After patch #5 on the PS4... Sure, now I can wear my Custom Shoes in MyCareer mode...

But the vast amount of 'contact fouls' that occur (during drives to the basket & layup attempts) which DO NOT GET CALLED now... is utterly ridiculous.

Now I get fouled on EVERY SINGLE DRIVE drive to the basket... by MULTIPLE CPU PLAYERS.

Pushed in the back.... or Smacked in the head.... and Knocked to the floor... only to watch my layup miss while laying flat on my back.

Don't get me wrong... I don't have a problem with GOOD DEFENSE...

But honestly, the CPU gets away with waaay more INTENTIONAL FOULING than ever before.

This is absurd.

[CaseIH]

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Exactly! There's a few bugs here and there where I'm feel like any random game tester should have found, but that's assuming that the test is familiar with the game at the same level that I would be.

To Whom It May Concern at 2KSports:

Hey! If you want to fly me out there for a week, plus pay me $20/Hour, I will gladly play test your game before release.

Sincerely,

A Fan

EDIT: Given this day and age of social media, how come game companies don't use forum members or fans to be game testers? Call me crazy, but I think it would actually be more cost effective than using professional game testers.

Ive often thought this as well. Its understandable to have some minor things slip thru the cracks, but it seems every yr, there are some major issues at release, that shouldnt be missed. I guess it is possible, they are caught, but just not fixed, when you see the same old issues each yr, that go unfixed, and you got to figure if the devs play the game, they surely know about them. For example, CPU not managing foul trouble correctly, this has been a issue for quite a few yrs now. I do wonder if game testers for sports games, are even hard core sports fans, because every yr there are some fairly major issues, in both NBA2k and MLBTS, and Madden, is so bad, I quit buying it probably 7yr ago. Typically NBA2k gets most issues fixed as does MLBTS devs, but like for instance with the CPU poor management of foul trouble, if they cant fix it, just be upfront and say, we cant fix it, for whatever reason, instead of just ignoring the issue.

[Koosa1027]

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After patch #5 on the PS4... Sure, now I can wear my Custom Shoes in MyCareer mode...

But the vast amount of 'contact fouls' that occur (during drives to the basket & layup attempts) which DO NOT GET CALLED now... is utterly ridiculous.

Now I get fouled on EVERY SINGLE DRIVE drive to the basket... by MULTIPLE CPU PLAYERS.

Pushed in the back.... or Smacked in the head.... and Knocked to the floor... only to watch my layup miss while laying flat on my back.

Don't get me wrong... I don't have a problem with GOOD DEFENSE...

But honestly, the CPU gets away with waaay more INTENTIONAL FOULING than ever before.

This is absurd.

Not saying that I agree with what they're trying to do but honestly I think they're trying to balance out how EASY they made it to drive to the basket by using fouls and missed layups as the solution but once again I'll say I will gladly take that over the "suction cup, directing my player around the court no matter which way I press the left stick, brickwall" defense of nba 2k17.

~Koosa10:27~

[Keith01]

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https://forums.operationsports.com/f...-nba-2k13.html

Glitch that needs to be patched

So I guess this is gonna be the silent killer glitch that stays in the game for years. Awesome job... And don't even say this doesn't exist until you've fully tested it. Competitive pro am players have known about this glitch for years, they don't say anything because 1) it's hard to prove unless you are the one using it 2) they've become dependent on it so they don't want to nerf their own glitch.

What this DOES need is a lot more publicity and testing by the community and especially 2K. Left right crap get's patched, other things get patched, yet this LEGACY GLITCH stays in the game for years. It's ridiculous.

[Roger_Black]

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Not saying that I agree with what they're trying to do but honestly I think they're trying to balance out how EASY they made it to drive to the basket by using fouls and missed layups as the solution but once again I'll say I will gladly take that over the "suction cup, directing my player around the court no matter which way I press the left stick, brickwall" defense of nba 2k17.

~Koosa10:27~

I hear you... and i think you hit the nail on the head about 'fouls and missed layups' being the way 2k has tried to balance it out...

But the problem I have with that is... if you get past the 1st defender... the 2nd (or 3rd) defender seems to be given MORE deference on their 'defensive positioning'... when considering whether or not to blow the whistle and 'call a foul'.

So now it feels like... if that 2nd (or 3rd) defender is in a good spot... then the fouls don't get called... even though I am being FLAGRANTLY FOULED and/or knocked down to the ground by the 1st defender...who is already BEHIND ME.

I just want them to call the foul on the player WHO ACTUALLY FOULED ME. (Not on the other player/s who played 'good defense'.)

My CPU defender (standing right in front of me) should NOT be allowed to get away with BLATANT fouls (especially from behind).... just because 1 or 2 of their teammates 'help out properly' from the weakside.

That's what I'm saying.

I'm going to monitor this activity for the next few hours.
If it keeps up, so badly... I'll make a video and post it.

[Koosa1027]

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I hear you... and i think you hit the nail on the head about 'fouls and missed layups' being the way 2k has tried to balance it out...

But the problem I have with that is... if you get past the 1st defender... the 2nd (or 3rd) defender seems to be given MORE deference on their 'defensive positioning'... when considering whether or not to blow the whistle and 'call a foul'.

So now it feels like... if that 2nd (or 3rd) defender is in a good spot... then the fouls don't get called... even though I am being FLAGRANTLY FOULED and/or knocked down to the ground by the 1st defender...who is already BEHIND ME.

I just want them to call the foul on the player WHO ACTUALLY FOULED ME. (Not on the other player/s who played 'good defense'.)

My CPU defender (standing right in front of me) should NOT be allowed to get away with BLATANT fouls (especially from behind).... just because 1 or 2 of their teammates 'help out properly' from the weakside.

That's what I'm saying.

I'm going to monitor this activity for the next few hours.
If it keeps up, so badly... I'll make a video and post it.

Oh ok I see what you're saying...in my time playing after the patch dropped last night I didn't notice it was that bad, I'll keep an eye on this next time I play.

~Koosa10:27~

[3ShowTime2]

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Maybe it wasn't discovered because developers and game testers don't think like cheesers and cheaters? Most common cheat tactics in ANY game are discovered AFTER the game has been released. Most developers will address exploits in patches, but the cheaters seem to always find a way.

For example, Da Czar nerfed the 5-Out cheese, and those fools found another to implement it. When it comes to combating cheaters and cheesers, it will always be a cat and mouse game.

Once the cheesers find out that the zig-zag exploit is not as effective, they'll just find out something else to use, and you'll be complaining once again about how 2K didn't find [insert new cheese] before release.

I know where you are coming from and you are right, developers and cheesers play a mouse and cat game. But theres difference between hidden glitches and outright obvious glitches. And you wanna tell me that you couldnt see that this zigzagging would not gonna be exploited?

This. Game testers don't go in and say "Let's break this game". Hell, usually it's a combination of focus group testers and professional testers. But they go in and play. No one looks for broken things, they're mostly there to make sure things work. Like, your game doesn't delete when you press play now. Stuff like that.

Bluntly: Game Testers don't actively look for glitches and Bugs. They report if they find one, but they wouldn't know to specifically look at how moving left to right repeatedly works

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No offense, but you are terribly wrong. Testers approve that a software/game works as it is intended to work and they need to find bugs while doing so. Im a software developer for 12 years now. Do you think that a game tester of an open world game just plays the game as it should play? No, he needs to check every cliff so you dont fall off anywhere, he needs to look for clipping bugs etc., testers need to be creative. You never want your software to fail at any time because your customers wont trust your software anymore if it fails.

[ViolenceFight]

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I know where you are coming from and you are right, developers and cheesers play a mouse and cat game. But theres difference between hidden glitches and outright obvious glitches. And you wanna tell me that you couldnt see that this zigzagging would not gonna be exploited?



No offense, but you are terribly wrong. Testers approve that a software/game works as it is intended to work and they need to find bugs while doing so. Im a software developer for 12 years now. Do you think that a game tester of an open world game just plays the game as it should play? No, he needs to check every cliff so you dont fall off anywhere, he needs to look for clipping bugs etc., testers need to be creative. You never want your software to fail at any time because your customers wont trust your software anymore if it fails.

Stand corrected. My bad.

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[Mortiis]

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guys did they fix injuries in my league mode?
are they appearing again?

[ksuttonjr76]

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I know where you are coming from and you are right, developers and cheesers play a mouse and cat game. But theres difference between hidden glitches and outright obvious glitches. And you wanna tell me that you couldnt see that this zigzagging would not gonna be exploited?



No offense, but you are terribly wrong. Testers approve that a software/game works as it is intended to work and they need to find bugs while doing so. Im a software developer for 12 years now. Do you think that a game tester of an open world game just plays the game as it should play? No, he needs to check every cliff so you dont fall off anywhere, he needs to look for clipping bugs etc., testers need to be creative. You never want your software to fail at any time because your customers wont trust your software anymore if it fails.

Truthfully, no...I wouldn't have discovered the zigzag cheese, because that's not how I play the game on a personal level. When I play the game, I play basketball. I don't play the game looking for exploits and glitches to use against my opponents in PNO. When I play ProAm, I create my player based on what I want my player to be. I don't go looking for the "best/easiest packages" in order to gain an extra advantage in Park and ProAm. If I were a game tester, I would more than likely find fundamental/situational problems in the game. Asking me to think like a cheeser is like asking me to think like a criminal. I'm just not wired that way.

EDIT: Also, there's a fine line of "breaking the game" and "working as intended". Zigzag technically works as intended from a gaming perspective, since it's a form of a crossover; however, can testers make a fair conclusion that it can be used as an exploit in head to head games?

[Koosa1027]

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Truthfully, no...I wouldn't have discovered the zigzag cheese, because that's not how I play the game on a personal level. When I play the game, I play basketball. I don't play the game looking for exploits and glitches to use against my opponents in PNO. When I play ProAm, I create my player based on what I want my player to be. I don't go looking for the "best/easiest packages" in order to gain an extra advantage in Park and ProAm. If I were a game tester, I would more than likely find fundamental/situational problems in the game. Asking me to think like a cheeser is like asking me to think like a criminal. I'm just not wired that way.

1000% agree

~Koosa10:27~

[Johnnythelegend]

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Do I have to start a new MyLeague in order to play with these MyLeague/MyGm updates?

[UtahUtes32]

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Why hasn't Xbox One been updated yet?! C'mon 2K I need it before next Tuesday's Xbox One X release!

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It's still Thursday of this week...

[AsianPowwwa]

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Still no improvements to All Star Team-up.

[kolanji]

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Truthfully, no...I wouldn't have discovered the zigzag cheese, because that's not how I play the game on a personal level. When I play the game, I play basketball. I don't play the game looking for exploits and glitches to use against my opponents in PNO. When I play ProAm, I create my player based on what I want my player to be. I don't go looking for the "best/easiest packages" in order to gain an extra advantage in Park and ProAm. If I were a game tester, I would more than likely find fundamental/situational problems in the game. Asking me to think like a cheeser is like asking me to think like a criminal. I'm just not wired that way.

EDIT: Also, there's a fine line of "breaking the game" and "working as intended". Zigzag technically works as intended from a gaming perspective, since it's a form of a crossover; however, can testers make a fair conclusion that it can be used as an exploit in head to head games?

then u wouldn't be a game tester...... it's that simple

game tester don't just play the game in it's final code and half the time the visuals are not even in the game as yet when majoirty of the testing is done... it might sound fun but the reality it is not as fun as u think playing an unfinished low to minimal visual game over and over and over and over and not in a traditional way...u actually play to find the credibility and functionality of the code as progress in developments are made...... trust me it's tedious and boring at times


so as far as these patches go and d credibility of how relevant these testers are when it comes to 2k it's not fair to assume that the job is easy and straight forward as going to play a game....that's what screeners and test group does not testers...they are actually there to break the game per se....

we have to admit though that 2k really does try to make the game as balance as they can on a year by year basis....so credit to them for that and as far as this patch goes let's give them feed back on it and try to make the game even better instead of bashing how easy a job is to fix something

can't wait to see how the game runs on the Xbox one x