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  • Housh123
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 1173

    #16
    Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

    Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
    Sharp . 3s are more reliable than finishing around the basket .


    That’s crazy that everyone agrees on this in 2k


    It should be the other way around


    Everyone should be salivating to have slashers and sharps but I’m seeing most ppl want nothing to do with slashers for any reason but to capitalize on fast breaks


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    • redsfan4life
      MVP
      • Mar 2005
      • 2764

      #17
      Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

      A patient slasher is tough to stop. An ape that just turbo's into the paint and presses square is not.
      PSN: Maserati_Bryan17

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      • YourHairlineTrash
        Banned
        • Jul 2018
        • 67

        #18
        Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

        Originally posted by howardphillips214
        Think about this...

        Every archetype has multiple ways to beat you. And no... 75? 70 sure. We're talking about the JORDAN archetype. Jordan shot .38 his career. That's not horrible!

        Jordan also had two seasons where he shot 17% from three as well.

        Why stop at just the 3 point shooting, since you're using Jordan as the basis of your 7'0 pure slasher, why not give him Jordans handle, mid-range game, fadeaway and defensive ability, all in a 7 footer to play online.

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        • howardphillips214
          MVP
          • Jan 2018
          • 1928

          #19
          Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

          Originally posted by YourHairlineTrash
          Jordan also had two seasons where he shot 17% from three as well.

          Why stop at just the 3 point shooting, since you're using Jordan as the basis of your 7'0 pure slasher, why not give him Jordans handle, mid-range game, fadeaway and defensive ability, all in a 7 footer to play online.
          I also have a 6'6 slasher.

          And why are you guys so mad about a 70 3 ball?

          It's not like I'm begging for a 99 everything. Like a LOT of other people want.

          This is what I'm saying...

          I'd sacrifice 99 dunking for 90 dunk and a 70 3 ball.

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          • howardphillips214
            MVP
            • Jan 2018
            • 1928

            #20
            Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

            Originally posted by Housh123
            That’s crazy that everyone agrees on this in 2k


            It should be the other way around


            Everyone should be salivating to have slashers and sharps but I’m seeing most ppl want nothing to do with slashers for any reason but to capitalize on fast breaks


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            • redsfan4life
              MVP
              • Mar 2005
              • 2764

              #21
              Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

              It's because 98% of slashers in 2k have low IQ and rely on animations to get points. They are terrible players. They also have no concept of spacing and are always cutting off ball into the paint killing the offense in the process. They can't just wait on the wing to get the ball and attempt to drive.
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              • Housh123
                Banned
                • Jan 2011
                • 1173

                #22
                Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

                Originally posted by redsfan4life
                It's because 98% of slashers in 2k have low IQ and rely on animations to get points. They are terrible players.


                A lot of truth to this one

                Iv always said if you are a pure slasher and don’t average close to 6 assists in the pro am then you are trash. You almost always have a big coming over to help on you.


                Speaking from personal experience iv literally only played with one good pure slasher on this game. All slashers do i charge the paint praying they get a dunk or a foul. To me that’s trash.

                The one good pure slasher i played with would use himself as a decoy and pass more than he shot. He was also very good at predicting when he’d actually get the poster dunk. He’d also shoot the long midrange if he was passed the ball and was also great at up and unders and floaters. He was UNGUARDABLE. There are so many trash slashers on 2k18 i low key won’t even play with them. Y’all still think it’s 2k17 where you could smash it on 7 defenders every single play


                If i hear the phrase “I’m a slasher why can’t i dunk that” one more time I’m going to kill someone
                Stuff like that is 2k’s fault tho for eliminating the skill gap. Bummy kids pick pure slasher, suck, get mad they can’t dunk on 8 ppl then complain because they don’t shoot 50% from 3. Like dog make a sharp slasher then


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                Last edited by Housh123; 07-18-2018, 03:43 PM.

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                • TheDominator273
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 1065

                  #23
                  Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

                  Originally posted by howardphillips214
                  Think about this...

                  Every archetype has multiple ways to beat you. And no... 75? 70 sure. We're talking about the JORDAN archetype. Jordan shot .38 his career. That's not horrible!
                  Jordan shot 32.7% from 3 for his career with only 3 full seasons of what would qualify as good with 2 of those seasons coming during the stretch they shortened the 3 point line before moving it back again.

                  Originally posted by Housh123
                  That’s crazy that everyone agrees on this in 2k


                  It should be the other way around


                  Everyone should be salivating to have slashers and sharps but I’m seeing most ppl want nothing to do with slashers for any reason but to capitalize on fast breaks


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                  I agree that every lineup needs someone who can finish inside, but the ideal lineup needs to have a player that can at least be a credible threat from the corner and a pure slasher shouldn't fit that criteria. A mix of slashing and shot creating is what you want if you want to be a threat from everywhere.

                  Here's a quick comparison between a pure slasher, shot creating slasher, and a slashing shot creator. The slashing build that needs their shot respected is in the game, someone who chose the wrong build of a pure slasher instead shouldn't be complaining when people don't take them seriously as a threat to shoot.



                  All 3 of those are a 6'6" SG

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                  • Housh123
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1173

                    #24
                    Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

                    Originally posted by lbj273
                    Jordan shot 32.7% from 3 for his career with only 3 full seasons of what would qualify as good with 2 of those seasons coming during the stretch they shortened the 3 point line before moving it back again.



                    I agree that every lineup needs someone who can finish inside, but the ideal lineup needs to have a player that can at least be a credible threat from the corner and a pure slasher shouldn't fit that criteria. A mix of slashing and shot creating is what you want if you want to be a threat from everywhere.

                    Here's a quick comparison between a pure slasher, shot creating slasher, and a slashing shot creator. The slashing build that needs their shot respected is in the game, someone who chose the wrong build of a pure slasher instead shouldn't be complaining when people don't take them seriously as a threat to shoot.



                    All 3 of those are a 6'6" SG


                    Wow i didn’t know this was the breakdown


                    So basically your going pure slasher just for HOF badges

                    This is eye opening


                    You might as well not make a pure slasher this year if the shot creating slasher gets these stats


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                    • TheDominator273
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 1065

                      #25
                      Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

                      Originally posted by Housh123
                      Wow i didn’t know this was the breakdown


                      So basically your going pure slasher just for HOF badges

                      This is eye opening


                      You might as well not make a pure slasher this year if the shot creating slasher gets these stats


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                      Here's the badges for the 3, Pure slasher, shot creating slasher, and slashing shot creator from left to right

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                      • SuperNoVa27
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 898

                        #26
                        Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

                        Sharps because they shoot better from 35ft than a slashing archetype shoots on layups.

                        Totally backwards concept

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                        • Housh123
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1173

                          #27
                          Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

                          Originally posted by SuperNoVa27
                          Sharps because they shoot better from 35ft than a slashing archetype shoots on layups.



                          Totally backwards concept


                          That’s wild


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                          • ph33
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 3261

                            #28
                            Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

                            Originally posted by Housh123
                            If i hear the phrase “I’m a slasher why can’t i dunk that” one more time I’m going to kill someone


                            Ahhh yes the most common thing I hear said in walk ons

                            People are bewildered when you tell them "well three people were in the paint...." And the response is WHAT'S THE POINT OF GOLD POSTERIZER

                            But in response to above --- having slashing as a secondary is totally just fine. Don't see any benefit to a pure

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                            • Housh123
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1173

                              #29
                              Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

                              Originally posted by ph33
                              Ahhh yes the most common thing I hear said in walk ons

                              People are bewildered when you tell them "well three people were in the paint...." And the response is WHAT'S THE POINT OF GOLD POSTERIZER


                              It makes me want to turn my game off


                              One on one i cannot get mad at a slasher for trying to dunk it. But when 2 dudes are pretty obviously waiting for you and you still try it when others are wide open i get so mad


                              Like even if you could dunk on multiple people at say a 50% clip why wouldn’t you just pass it to the wide open midrange for a 90% chance of scoring


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                              • ILLSmak
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 2397

                                #30
                                Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

                                I wonder what a team of sharpshooting secondaries would look like in terms of competition. Sharps are op because their other attributes are too high. They need to be catch and shoot players.


                                Curry is more of a sharpshooting shot creator. No other archetypes without sharp is that reliable from three.



                                I wanna make a sharpshooting defender Sf or Sg and see how wet he is. If your team is too sharp heavy you should be getting ripped and killed on the boards/inside.


                                I would not mind sharps making threes like they do if it wasn't them shooting leaners and pull ups, then dudes have the audacity to come on here and say sharps would be useless if.. If you ever suggest that something is taken away. No, they would not.



                                -Smak

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