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  • Housh123
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 1173

    #31
    Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

    Originally posted by ILLSmak
    I wonder what a team of sharpshooting secondaries would look like in terms of competition. Sharps are op because their other attributes are too high. They need to be catch and shoot players.


    Curry is more of a sharpshooting shot creator. No other archetypes without sharp is that reliable from three.



    I wanna make a sharpshooting defender Sf or Sg and see how wet he is. If your team is too sharp heavy you should be getting ripped and killed on the boards/inside.


    I would not mind sharps making threes like they do if it wasn't them shooting leaners and pull ups, then dudes have the audacity to come on here and say sharps would be useless if.. If you ever suggest that something is taken away. No, they would not.



    -Smak


    If i were running pro am i wouldn’t mind running 3 sharp secondaries a rebounder and a stretch


    That lineup basically doesn’t have a weakness but the rebounder if he can’t shoot the middy


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    • TheDominator273
      Rookie
      • Feb 2013
      • 1065

      #32
      Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

      Originally posted by Housh123
      If i were running pro am i wouldn’t mind running 3 sharp secondaries a rebounder and a stretch


      That lineup basically doesn’t have a weakness but the rebounder if he can’t shoot the middy


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      My pro am team runs a lineup that generally consists of something along the lines of

      PG Sharpshooting Playmaker
      SG Slashing Sharpshooter (PG)
      SF Shot creating Sharpshooter (SG)
      PF Pure Sharp (SF)
      C Rebounding Stretch 5

      And while the heights and exact builds aren't perfectly optimized it is a lineup that is tough to defend because we can attack in many different ways. Everyone in the lineup can hit if left open and everyone is always willing to turn down a good shot to give a teammate a great shot.

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      • howardphillips214
        MVP
        • Jan 2018
        • 1928

        #33
        Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

        I'm just going to get this out of the way now, then.

        I've posted about my slashers all year, in extreme detail. Sometimes they're extreme rants. That's why we're here. I get it. No one likes getting dunked on.

        I'm here to tell you tho..

        6'4 PG playmaking slasher is a fun build. I can speed boost, hit the floater, and shoot pretty well from mid-range. The problem with this build is the 66 3 pointer is not reliable for me. Maybe if i spent more time with this build I'd get the release down.

        PG 6'4 slashing shot creator is also a fun build but i always felt weak going strong in the paint. Both these builds WILL trigger contacts but not at the level i wanted.

        So i made the 6'6 SG Pure slasher. And boy was this build fun to play up. I had a complete blast in the early parts of the year. When i was one on one there was nobody that could stop me. The problem with this build was it became popular to start playing off slashers and double in the paint and i started getting frustrated i wasn't seeing clean looks.

        I have a 6'7 pure point forward, i have a 7' sharp shooting post scorer and lastly my 7' Athletic.

        Of all my slashers my center is the only one i get consistent one on one opportunities. But even then the other big tends to crash when i don't have another shooter in the paint with me.

        The overall issue i see is that, while i can and have multiple 30+ points on any of these characters, the FUN factor has been highest on my center.

        It's FUN for ME to poster you. If you don't have defense in your build, a slasher should be a PROBLEM. You SHOULD have to cater your defense around them and this will get MY shooters open. Instead you want to double off slashers onto shooters but we don't have the means to retaliate due to a lack of physics and the lack of strong back door mechanics. The alley oops are terrible and that's not counting the spamming people do in the paint.

        Take the other thread when i said i popped a couple 3s and this board lost its mind.

        You wanna call slashers names like they're trash players. I played with slashing secondary, i still didn't finish like i want. My pure slasher finishes GREAT but i shouldn't ONLY be able to score on the break like housh said. I need to be CAUSING the breaks by playing good defense and having speed to cause havoc on the other end with unrivaled athleticism. This isn't some OP build I'm expecting like sharps CURRENTLY ARE but shot creator builds are also vastly under powered because of how popular 3s are.

        Let's get back to having fun, and a part of that is opening the game back up so i CAN make a Westbrook or a Wall.

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        • TheMattyT
          Rookie
          • Mar 2014
          • 99

          #34
          Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

          Originally posted by howardphillips214
          Think about this...

          Every archetype has multiple ways to beat you. And no... 75? 70 sure. We're talking about the JORDAN archetype. Jordan shot .38 his career. That's not horrible!
          Jordan shot 32%, not 38... He was a bad 3 point shooter
          Ive seen you do this in at least 2 other threads lol come on man.

          Primary slashers should not be hitting 3's like that, unless of course theyre secondary sharp.

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          • shayellis
            Rookie
            • Jul 2010
            • 371

            #35
            Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

            The fact that only one voted slasher tells you how unbalanced the game is. Yes the NBA, is becoming more shooting dominate but Sharps in real life arent shooting 60+ percent from limitless range deep like in 2k
            Last edited by shayellis; 07-24-2018, 08:05 PM.
            PSN: UVE_HAD_ENOUGH

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            • nyk_fatboy
              Pro
              • Dec 2013
              • 708

              #36
              Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

              Those 5 out lineups will look suspect in 2k19 with blow bys being nerfed and defense being buffed.

              still effective but less dominant like in 2k18 imo
              Last edited by nyk_fatboy; 07-24-2018, 07:09 PM.

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              • Thetruth11
                Banned
                • Feb 2018
                • 474

                #37
                Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

                6'10 playmaking slasher .
                Everyone can shoot on 2k

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                • Thetruth11
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2018
                  • 474

                  #38
                  Re: Archetype Throwdown: Who would you rather have on your team? Sharp/Slasher?

                  Originally posted by lbj273
                  Mathematics show that 33.3% from 3 is equal to 50% from 2, the modern league is embracing this and the video game realm has been doing this for a while already.

                  Athletic players without jumpers do go high in the draft still because you can't teach athleticism but one of the most common things for a player to improve on is their jumpshot





                  Pure Slasher shouldn't get a 61 3 imo, I also don't think a pure sharp should be an available archetype as there's really only Korver and Reddick that would qualify. But if it must exist as an archetype they need to take a hit to moving 3 at the bare minimum as the moving fadeaway shots from the center court logo are beyond ridiculous
                  Only problem is even though they both leave pretty close the inside will get you freethrows

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