"Buying your Player"

[Jaysonguy]

Re: "Buying your Player"

At time ,it seems like theres alot of animosity towards people who are accused of "buying" their MyPlayer. And that animosity come from the "grinders". What I mean by buyers are people who invest VC to make their player an 85 out the bat. What I mean by grinders are people who like to start off at the 60 and "grind"to get their MP to 85+

I consider myself a top notch 2k player, like a lot of other ballers do. Been playing it since the original dreamcast. And Ill say this now, I buy the Anniversary edition and I buy VC to put myplayer up to an 85 off the bat. My reasons are simple. I'm 40, I work full time, I have a wife, 2 kids and I can afford to buy the edition and add the VC. I grew up on games and its my way to unwind.
Also, unlike 20 years ago, I dont have the time or patience to start at a 60 if I dont have to. Doesnt make me less of a fan, less skilled (try me if you dare). And I still have to grind for my badges earn my wins on the court like everyone else. In 2k18, I got my guy up to a 93 with maxed out badges.
I play ProAm most of the time. When the season starts I also play 2 full 82 game seasons of MYGM on HOF default. I always get 2 seasons in with the first team. Then I start another season when the trading deadline passes for an updated feel. And I follow that up with a another season starting from the playoffs, reflecting the real playoffs.

But my point of this was not to brag, as I know there are alot of skilled 2k players like me, and maybe some more skilled. But I just wanted to defend the ballers who spend the extra dough for the perks. If you like to start off at the 60 and work your way up, more power to you. I dont knock you at all. Just dont knock me or others because we choose a different way.

You said "I'm part of the problem" yet want that to be fine.

It's not.

[GLegend1226]

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You said "I'm part of the problem" yet want that to be fine.

It's not.

Not sure what this means, but whatever

[jackzagal]

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I'm not the biggest fan of VC/microtransactions, but the game should give an option to make the grind to get that precious VC more or less easy and bearable. Last year, it wasn't the case, people complained and 2K seems to have listened and made things right this time.

Heck, if I buy and enjoy the game, I might even put some extra money to make more archetypes/players if I feel like it. But the grind should've never been like the one we saw last year, I hope they don't repeat that mistake again.

[badmrfrosty7]

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To the OP,

I think it's viewed as a knock that you purchased VC to catch your player up, because you are 2K's target audience for spending VC. Disposable income, not enough time to grind, love this game. Maybe you were already saying that. Sorry if so.

Which is why I'd agree with you that you don't deserve to be knocked for that. Others want to believe that you enable 2K's micro-transaction schemes by purchasing VC along with a copy of the game. But it's more like, 2K shouldn't be putting price tags on character creation and attributes to begin with and they should find another way for people to build their player.

Maybe allow your player to start at a higher overall immediately (Low 80s?) and requiring grind to get further. Maybe people who still start at the bottom OVR get special perks that don't affect competition, but serve as badges of honor. Maybe just let players get their max rating immediately and play in their own ranked competitions. There could be many methods for making this whole experience come with the game and have zero micro-transactions attached.

But there's no money in that. And there's a chance you might go play something else if you don't have a long-term goal you're trying to reach. Dangling an option to play the game you want under the system the developer has built through monetization is just where we are now.

So the only deserving condemnation would go to the state of video games rather than the consumer trying to play the game how they want.

[ksuttonjr76]

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I think I might have cared in NBA 2K15, but then stopped caring due VC wasn't that hard to earn overall. To me, it's not that big of a deal. As was previously stated, 2K Sports was almost FORCING those who choose to grind to buy VC to get competitive. Taking a whole year to get to 85 is ridiculous.

There was a time that people assumed that only bums and scrubs bought VC to max out their players, but not anymore. Personally, I look at buying VC as a way to skip the "tutorial" of learning how to play the game all over again.

[ODogg]

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You said "I'm part of the problem" yet want that to be fine.

It's not.

There is no problem, unless it seems to be a problem to you. I don't see any problem personally.

[GLegend1226]

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To the OP,

I think it's viewed as a knock that you purchased VC to catch your player up, because you are 2K's target audience for spending VC. Disposable income, not enough time to grind, love this game. Maybe you were already saying that. Sorry if so.

Which is why I'd agree with you that you don't deserve to be knocked for that. Others want to believe that you enable 2K's micro-transaction schemes by purchasing VC along with a copy of the game. But it's more like, 2K shouldn't be putting price tags on character creation and attributes to begin with and they should find another way for people to build their player.

Maybe allow your player to start at a higher overall immediately (Low 80s?) and requiring grind to get further. Maybe people who still start at the bottom OVR get special perks that don't affect competition, but serve as badges of honor. Maybe just let players get their max rating immediately and play in their own ranked competitions. There could be many methods for making this whole experience come with the game and have zero micro-transactions attached.

But there's no money in that. And there's a chance you might go play something else if you don't have a long-term goal you're trying to reach. Dangling an option to play the game you want under the system the developer has built through monetization is just where we are now.

So the only deserving condemnation would go to the state of video games rather than the consumer trying to play the game how they want.

You make some good points here.


My intention was not to knock anyone's method of playing the game or cause a huge stir. I just wanted to defend some of the people like myself who do put extra money into the game. Rather that be buying the anniversary edition, buying extra VC, MY TEAM, Gatorade boost, etc. I think it's a little unfair to put the cause of the VC micro transactions on players like myself and others. I just wanted to state why I personally spend an little extra on the game to add some enjoyment to it for me.
Some people enjoy the grind. I actually don't mind the grind either. I always say to people when you're young, you have the time, but no money. But when you get older, you have the money, but no time.


But we can all agree that 2k went a little too far with the grind last year. You should never feel like you HAVE to put extra money in the game to be competitive and enjoy it. It should be an option. And like I stated, that's what the feedback and platforms like OS are for. But the blame should be on 2k for making the grind unbearable last year, not on the players who spend extra to get the game earlier, or to add more to their player.


If people think that micro transactions are going the way of the dodo bird, they're mistaken. It's actually going the other way(i.e. Fortnite). I wouldn't be shocked if they start giving the game away free and make you buy the modes a la carte.


Rather it's MYTEAM, MUT mode, Fortnite, PUBG, or any other game that has additional ways to make money. More and more companies are going this way. The best thing we can do as a gaming community is to let them know when they go too far. And I believe the voices were heard with the feedback I've been hearing so far on 2k19.

[ODogg]

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But we can all agree that 2k went a little too far with the grind last year. You should never feel like you HAVE to put extra money in the game to be competitive and enjoy it. It should be an option.

This is what we really should be debating, not if we should have microtransactions but at what ratio.

In other words, if it costs me $3 to get a haircut or 3 hours of playtime for my player that's ridiculous and 2K should get yelled at for that. But 3 cents or 10 minutes of playtime? Ok...I can live with that.

I think that's what got so many people outraged last year, was that the entire money/time system was just skewed to ridiculous levels.

[ksuttonjr76]

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This is what we really should be debating, not if we should have microtransactions but at what ratio.

In other words, if it costs me $3 to get a haircut or 3 hours of playtime for my player that's ridiculous and 2K should get yelled at for that. But 3 cents or 10 minutes of playtime? Ok...I can live with that.

I think that's what got so many people outraged last year, was that the entire money/time system was just skewed to ridiculous levels.

Exactly. Until last year, I have never complained about VC. Normally, I play a bunch of PNO games, and I could create 1-2 players rated in the 80's. I never create players above 90, because I like the challenge of not using a maxed out player.

[YoungBuck3]

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For someone who was venting about having limited time because of his family it sounds like you manage to play a lot with all these mygm seasons you're boasting about lol.

I'm waiting for my LeBron edition too. I don't have a family, I just cbf with the grind. You win 2k.

[BA2929]

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Yeah, but because of people who spend money the grind becomes unbearable.

It's not my fault that 2k gives me the option to buy things with my cash.



Blame 2k for starting us out at a 60 and giving us the option to improve quicker via straight up cash, not the people who choose one option over the other.



In a month nobody will even know who spent cash and who didn't, so I don't see why it's such a big deal with some of you.

[ViolenceFight]

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It's not my fault that 2k gives me the option to buy things with my cash.



Blame 2k for starting us out at a 60 and giving us the option to improve quicker via straight up cash, not the people who choose one option over the other.



In a month nobody will even know who spent cash and who didn't, so I don't see why it's such a big deal with some of you.

This! It'll be a moot point

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[GLegend1226]

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For someone who was venting about having limited time because of his family it sounds like you manage to play a lot with all these mygm seasons you're boasting about lol.

I'm waiting for my LeBron edition too. I don't have a family, I just cbf with the grind. You win 2k.

Touché YoungBuck........Touché

[ItchyNscratchy]

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We get it. Its all pay to win. Its been like that since 17 but understand that the game is not really about overall, its more about real life basketball IQ.

[ph33]

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We get it. Its all pay to win. Its been like that since 17 but understand that the game is not really about overall, its more about real life basketball IQ.

And what happens when you take two teams that have matching IQs but one team has players with significantly higher attributes?