NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

[Cyrus09]

Loved this thread last year and with most people having the game now it's a good time to get the new one started.

I would like to start it with a search for help: Playing with the Pacers in year 1 and looking for a guy who can take Bogdanovics starting spot.

Detroit started kinda well and with their contracts their basically in win now mode. I would like to take Johnson from then, but it seems like Bogdanovic straight up seems a bit much.
Do you guys can think of similar players where I could land something with the Pacers? Problem is that I don't really have space, so I have to part ways with Bogdanovic or Young.
Is there any guy on a rookie contract who could realistically be traded?

Looked for Bazemore, but really don't have anything the Hawks would be interested in their situation. Could definitely need a 3 and D guy, because Bogdanovic gets killed with cuts way to often for my preferred system. Now with defense really depending on the defensive skills of a player there is a new factor for trades. But really tough to figure something realistic out right now.

[marcelcloses5]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

Kicking in a 1st round pick would make the trade with Detroit even, but Bogdanovic, Kennard and Bullock are all redundant.

Do not think they would accept the trade based on needs, but value is kind of equal this way. (Assuming you want to push for a playoff run, where the pick would be around #24 like this year).

[georgiafan]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

Loved this thread last year and with most people having the game now it's a good time to get the new one started.

I would like to start it with a search for help: Playing with the Pacers in year 1 and looking for a guy who can take Bogdanovics starting spot.

Detroit started kinda well and with their contracts their basically in win now mode. I would like to take Johnson from then, but it seems like Bogdanovic straight up seems a bit much.
Do you guys can think of similar players where I could land something with the Pacers? Problem is that I don't really have space, so I have to part ways with Bogdanovic or Young.
Is there any guy on a rookie contract who could realistically be traded?

Looked for Bazemore, but really don't have anything the Hawks would be interested in their situation. Could definitely need a 3 and D guy, because Bogdanovic gets killed with cuts way to often for my preferred system. Now with defense really depending on the defensive skills of a player there is a new factor for trades. But really tough to figure something realistic out right now.

Hawks with Baz is a interesting person as far as trade pieces go he is overpaid however he is a solid 3 & D guy. The hawks will / should trade him and despite his overpaid salary a lot of teams could use him. So they aren't going to trade him without getting back a 1st round pick. The team giving up the 1st round pick would give the hawks back a bad salary similar to the Pelicans / Bulls trade last year.

The pacers don't have any terrible long term salaries other then McDermott. I don't know what the pacers ratings are off the top of my head but something along these lines makes sense. We can come up with a little something else toward the pacers side if need be.

Pacers Get
Baz (18 mill)

Hawks Get
McDermott (7.3 ) and Collison or Bogd (whichever is the worst, 10 mill)
next years 1st (top 5 or 10 protected)

The hawks get a future 1st and shed salary also Doug fits the hawks mold which is shooters who cant play D. You get your 3 & D guy, the 1st likely isn't in the lottery and Baz $ comes off the books 1 year sooner then Doug. Without looking at ratings this should get you in the ball park.

[trekfan]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

Loved this thread last year and with most people having the game now it's a good time to get the new one started.

I would like to start it with a search for help: Playing with the Pacers in year 1 and looking for a guy who can take Bogdanovics starting spot.

Detroit started kinda well and with their contracts their basically in win now mode. I would like to take Johnson from then, but it seems like Bogdanovic straight up seems a bit much.
Do you guys can think of similar players where I could land something with the Pacers? Problem is that I don't really have space, so I have to part ways with Bogdanovic or Young.
Is there any guy on a rookie contract who could realistically be traded?

Looked for Bazemore, but really don't have anything the Hawks would be interested in their situation. Could definitely need a 3 and D guy, because Bogdanovic gets killed with cuts way to often for my preferred system. Now with defense really depending on the defensive skills of a player there is a new factor for trades. But really tough to figure something realistic out right now.

This is one of my favorite threads year-to-year, good to see it back up.


Bogdanovic is a player with an expiring contract and is a pretty solid bench guy, with below average defense. If he's going to go to a team, it'll probably be one that's fine with living with his hot shooting and not so hot D.


Contenders and playoff aspiring squads are his best suitors OR tanking squads who want to unload a player on a longer contract for the immediate benefit of a short term deal and free cap space next summer.




I like the Johnson for Bogdanovic trade idea or perhaps Winslow with the Heat for Bogdanovic. Both have been disappointments in the league and both could be expensive on their next contract -- Detroit could use the shooting, even if Kennard/Bullock provides it, they don't do it nearly as well as Bogdanovic and neither are (in my opinion) long-term pieces around Drummond/Griffin. Bogdanovic could be that.


The Heat desperately need cap space freed up for next summer and don't have many draft picks to their name thanks to the Dragic trade, so trading away Winslow for an expiring might seem a bit much, but Miami needs to be as free from cap concerns as possible -- if Bogdanovic helps them tank some, that's a plus, though I think he'd improve them enough for a fringe playoff spot.

[Cyrus09]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

Right now I'm starting like this: Oladipo-Collison-Bogdanovic-Young-Turner

Worst spots are the 2 and the 3. If I take that Bazemore deal georgiafan suggested I would have to find a way to replace Collison and take Bogdanovic out, too. And the Pacers just signed McDermott and so I don't think they would trade him again after 20 games.

For some reason I thought Bogdanovic's contract wouldn't expire this year, so I looked for ways to replace Collison and not him. But now I guess I'm back looking for a SF.

Winslow is one of my favorite players in the league and I would love to have him on the squad. But the Heat are actually performing good so far with him starting(4th in East after 22 games) and I don't think that Bogdanovic would be such a upgrade over the guys they have playing SF right now(Johnson and Richardson with Waiters also in the mix).
Feel like the Stanley Johnson one is the most realistic right now: Detroit is in the middle of the pack and could need another scorer. But there are 2 other ideas that came to my mind yesterday:

-Tobias Harris: Expiring contract. Clippers started that rebuild last year and are awful this year. Maybe there is a 3 team trade possible where I ship out Bogdanovic, get Harris and Clippers get 2 picks from each team?

- Evan Fournier: Not that much d, but more 3. Bigger contract on a awful Magic team that still doesn't have a PG. Thought there would be something possible around Collison, who could start for them at the 1 and would get them more space. But could be even worst with him defensively.

Right now I'm still leaning towards Stanley Johnson, but I don't want to rush it. Just looking for different ideas and input. I'm in 2nd right now with the Pacers behind the Raptors, so it's starting to feel like a "Why not us?"-year with Boston and Philly struggling.

[jeremym480]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

Loved this thread last year and with most people having the game now it's a good time to get the new one started.

I would like to start it with a search for help: Playing with the Pacers in year 1 and looking for a guy who can take Bogdanovics starting spot.

Detroit started kinda well and with their contracts their basically in win now mode. I would like to take Johnson from then, but it seems like Bogdanovic straight up seems a bit much.
Do you guys can think of similar players where I could land something with the Pacers? Problem is that I don't really have space, so I have to part ways with Bogdanovic or Young.
Is there any guy on a rookie contract who could realistically be traded?

Looked for Bazemore, but really don't have anything the Hawks would be interested in their situation. Could definitely need a 3 and D guy, because Bogdanovic gets killed with cuts way to often for my preferred system. Now with defense really depending on the defensive skills of a player there is a new factor for trades. But really tough to figure something realistic out right now.

I like Bogdanovic as a player and think that his defense actually improved quite a bit last year. He went from not being able to get on the floor in the playoffs against Boston when he was with Washington to doing an admirable job on LeBron in the playoffs last season.

His problem in 2K is that he is super slooooowwwww, especially in relation to the other guys that you're considering. Defensive skills wise he is actually just as good or better than them in a lot of defensiveness categories but his lack of speed and quickness basically kills all of that.

You can take a look at how they compare here: https://2kmtcentral.com/19/players/c...2583/2346/2473

I assume those rating are correct but I haven't actually compared them to the in-game ratings.

[georgiafan]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

Here is a link to some sites I use when looking at things when I am not in front of the game

http://www.2kratings.com/nba-2k19-teams (good for overall player ratings, looks like Jeremys site is better)

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/IND.html (for salaries)

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine (to see if the math works for trades)

[trekfan]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

Right now I'm starting like this: Oladipo-Collison-Bogdanovic-Young-Turner

Worst spots are the 2 and the 3. If I take that Bazemore deal georgiafan suggested I would have to find a way to replace Collison and take Bogdanovic out, too. And the Pacers just signed McDermott and so I don't think they would trade him again after 20 games.

For some reason I thought Bogdanovic's contract wouldn't expire this year, so I looked for ways to replace Collison and not him. But now I guess I'm back looking for a SF.

Winslow is one of my favorite players in the league and I would love to have him on the squad. But the Heat are actually performing good so far with him starting(4th in East after 22 games) and I don't think that Bogdanovic would be such a upgrade over the guys they have playing SF right now(Johnson and Richardson with Waiters also in the mix).
Feel like the Stanley Johnson one is the most realistic right now: Detroit is in the middle of the pack and could need another scorer. But there are 2 other ideas that came to my mind yesterday:

-Tobias Harris: Expiring contract. Clippers started that rebuild last year and are awful this year. Maybe there is a 3 team trade possible where I ship out Bogdanovic, get Harris and Clippers get 2 picks from each team?

- Evan Fournier: Not that much d, but more 3. Bigger contract on a awful Magic team that still doesn't have a PG. Thought there would be something possible around Collison, who could start for them at the 1 and would get them more space. But could be even worst with him defensively.

Right now I'm still leaning towards Stanley Johnson, but I don't want to rush it. Just looking for different ideas and input. I'm in 2nd right now with the Pacers behind the Raptors, so it's starting to feel like a "Why not us?"-year with Boston and Philly struggling.

That Clippers idea has merit -- LA got Bradley and Harris as the centerpieces of that Griffin trade, but they also owe their own first to Boston this year or next (depending on where they finish). Jerome Robinson is actually coming along nicely in my MyLeague, I think he could be a starter by the 2020-21 season if he develops similarly to yours (right now he's about a 76 with 79 potential, so another year of development and he'll be right at starter threshold).



So if you shipped out Bogdanovic to LAC for Harris or Bradley (I'd prefer Bradley -- defensive savant, has experience in the East on playoff squads), sent them a protected 1st rounder (say top 10), they shipped off Bogdanovic to Philly for Robert Covington (whom you get), Philly's first (LAC get), and that gives Philly a shooting boost and another veteran they can use while unloading RobCo's contract (not favorable long-term).


You get back long-term salary in RobCo but he's a player who might have use for you as he'll be 8-9 on the bench rather than a 6-7 semi-starter with the 76ers. You can always turn down Bradley's TO contract next summer as well (I believe he's got a 2yr/24M contract with a Team option in year 2).



So you get Bradley+Covington, Bogdanovic goes to Philly for a 1st (lightly protected, future perhaps)+Covington, Clippers get 2 firsts and unload salary, embracing the tank.

[georgiafan]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

I am working on a list of players with bad contracts with overalls sorted by position so I'll try and post those today. This should come in handy when trying to decide what players you have to take on to get a extra 1st round pick.

[Cyrus09]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

So you get Bradley+Covington, Bogdanovic goes to Philly for a 1st (lightly protected, future perhaps)+Covington, Clippers get 2 firsts and unload salary, embracing the tank.

Ended up with a trade like that. Just had to add Collison to the Clippers so that salaries match, but I will cut him so he can join a playoff squad.
Just loved everything about that trade: Philly is 5 games behind the playoffs and in desperation mode. With this trade they upgrade their team and get in better position for free agency after the season.
The Clippers can tank, get 2 good picks and capspace. With these Butler and Kawhi rumours about them I feel like they actually could be a player in next years market.

And finally: Bradley is just a perfect guy for Indiana. Hard worker, tough defender, still a underdog with his physical build. Covington is similiar plus he is a bigger body to throw at good offensive wings. And these 2 guys allow Oladipo to get some rest on defense and don't defend the other teams best player and lead the offense at the same time.

Thanks for the input guys. Hope other people will post their questions here so we get that thing going.

[trekfan]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

Ended up with a trade like that. Just had to add Collison to the Clippers so that salaries match, but I will cut him so he can join a playoff squad.
Just loved everything about that trade: Philly is 5 games behind the playoffs and in desperation mode. With this trade they upgrade their team and get in better position for free agency after the season.
The Clippers can tank, get 2 good picks and capspace. With these Butler and Kawhi rumours about them I feel like they actually could be a player in next years market.

And finally: Bradley is just a perfect guy for Indiana. Hard worker, tough defender, still a underdog with his physical build. Covington is similiar plus he is a bigger body to throw at good offensive wings. And these 2 guys allow Oladipo to get some rest on defense and don't defend the other teams best player and lead the offense at the same time.

Thanks for the input guys. Hope other people will post their questions here so we get that thing going.

Awesome, glad we could be of help. I'm sure Collison is tired of being stuck on bad Clippers teams, but cutting him before the playoffs is fair -- he's actually a good player and one I've enjoyed using since he entered 2K, but he's just never been able to stick to a good team for one reason or another, dude's solid but the basketball gods are not nice to him.

[georgiafan]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

Here I my initial list of players with bad or overpriced contracts 2k wise. I have yet to double check these with 2K as sometimes they will have the options different then the sites I use so that's the main thing I still need to do. I rounded up and down on the salaries so its not the exact number. I also assumed everyone would pick up player options. Some of the guys are solid players like THJ, Baz, Wiggins just over paid with the ratings so I listed most of those type guys. If you see a person I missed or you don't think belongs on here let me know.


PG
George Hill (76) - 2 year & 37 million
Brandon Knight (74) - 2 year & 30 million
Patty Mills (76) - 3 year & 36 million
Matt Dellavedova (73) - 2 year & 19 million
Dante Exum (74) - 3 year & 29 million
Shaun Livingston (75) - 2 year & 16 million (+2 at SG)
Langston Galloway (74) - 2 year & 14 million


SG
Tyler Johnson (76) - 2 year & 39 million
Kent Bazmore (77) - 2 year & 37 million (P.O.)
Allen Crabbe (76) - 2 year & 37 million (P.O.)
Tim Hardaway Jr (78) - 3 year & 54 million (P.O.)
J.R Smith (75) - 2 year & 30 million
Courtney Lee (76) - 2 year & 25 million
Dion Waiters (76) - 3 year & 36 million
E'Twaun Moore (75) - 2 year & 17 million
Joe Harris (75) - 2 year & 16 million
Marco Belinelli (76) - 2 year & 12 million


SF
Andrew Wiggins (81) - 5 year & 146 million
Chandler Parsons (75) - 2 year & 49 million
Nic Batum (77) - 3 year & 76 million (P.O.)
Otto Porter (81) - 3 year & 81 million (P.O.)
Evan Turner (73) - 2 year & 36 million
James Johnson (77) - 3 year & 46 million (P.O.)
Danilo Gallinori (77) - 2 year & 44 million
MKG (75 ) - 2 year & 26 million (P.O.)
Solomon Hill (73) - 2 year & 26 million
Tony Snell (73) - 3 year & 34 million
Mo Harkless (73) - 2 year & 22 million
Norman Powell (74) - 4 year & 40 million (ovr goes up when moved to SG)
P.J Tucker (76) - 3 year & 24 million
Doug McDermott (73) - 3 year & 22 million
C.J Miles (75) - 2 year & 17 million (P.O.)
Lance Thomas (69) - 2 year & 14 million


PF
Serge Ibaka (79) - 2 year & 45 million
Ryan Anderson (75) - 2 year & 36 million (will check if 2k has new adjusted salary)
Marvin Williams (76) - 2 year & 29 million (P.O.)
Dwight Powell (76) - 2 year & 20 million (P.O.)
John Leuer (74) - 2 year & 20 million
Nemanja Bjelica (75 ) - 3 year & 19 million
David Bertans (75) - 2 year & 14 million


C
Jokim Noah (73) - 2 year & 37 million
Tristan Thompson (76) - 2 year & 36 million (+2 at PF )
Bismak Biyombo (74 ) - 2 year & 34 million (P.O.)
Girgui Deng (75) - 3 year & 48 million
Cody Zeller (77) - 3 year & 43 million (+2 at PF)
Tim Mozgov (74) - 2 year & 32 million
Kelly Olynyk (77) - 3 year & 34 million (P.O.)
Ian Mahinmi (74) - 2 year & 31 million
Mason Plumlee (76) - 2 year & 27 million
Miles Plumlee (70) - 2 year & 25 million
Omar Asik (68) - 2 year & 23 million (P.O.)
Meyers Leonard (71) - 2 year & 21 million
Christiano Felicio (71) - 3 year & 34 million

[trekfan]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

Here I my initial list of players with bad or overpriced contracts 2k wise. I have yet to double check these with 2K as sometimes they will have the options different then the sites I use so that's the main thing I still need to do. I rounded up and down on the salaries so its not the exact number. I also assumed everyone would pick up player options. Some of the guys are solid players like THJ, Baz, Wiggins just over paid with the ratings so I listed most of those type guys. If you see a person I missed or you don't think belongs on here let me know.


PG
George Hill (76) - 2 year & 37 million
Brandon Knight (74) - 2 year & 30 million
Patty Mills (76) - 3 year & 36 million
Matt Dellavedova (73) - 2 year & 19 million
Dante Exum (74) - 3 year & 29 million
Shaun Livingston (75) - 2 year & 16 million
Langston Galloway (74) - 2 year & 14 million


SG
Tyler Johnson (76) - 2 year & 39 million
Kent Bazmore (77) - 2 year & 37 million
Allen Crabbe (76) - 2 year & 37 million
Tim Hardaway Jr (78) - 3 year & 54 million
J.R Smith (75) - 2 year & 30 million
Courtney Lee (76) - 2 year & 25 million
Dion Waiters (76) - 3 year & 36 million
E'Twaun Moore (75) - 2 year & 17 million
Joe Harris (75) - 2 year & 16 million
Marco Belinelli (76) - 2 year & 12 million


SF
Andrew Wiggins (81) - 5 year & 146 million
Chandler Parsons (75) - 2 year & 49 million
Nic Batum (77) - 3 year & 76 million
Otto Porter (81) - 3 year & 81 million
Evan Turner (73) - 2 year & 36 million
James Johnson (77) - 3 year & 46 million
Danilo Gallinori (77) - 2 year & 44 million
MKG (75 ) - 2 year & 26 million
Solomon Hill (73) - 2 year & 26 million
Tony Snell (73) - 3 year & 34 million
Mo Harkless (73) - 2 year & 22 million
Norman Powell (74) - 4 year & 40 million
P.J Tucker (76) - 3 year & 24 million
Doug McDermott (73) - 3 year & 22 million
C.J Miles (75) - 2 year & 17 million
Lance Thomas (69) - 2 year & 14 million


PF
Serge Ibaka (79) - 2 year & 45 million
Ryan Anderson (75) - 2 year & 36 million (will check if 2k has new adjusted salary)
Marvin Williams (76) - 2 year & 29 million
Dwight Powell (76) - 2 year & 20 million
John Leuer (74) - 2 year & 20 million
Nemanja Bjelica (75 ) - 3 year & 19 million
David Bertans (75) - 2 year & 14 million


C
Jokim Noah (73) - 2 year & 37 million
Tristan Thompson (76) - 2 year & 36 million
Bismak Biyombo (74 ) - 2 year & 34 million
Girgui Deng (75) - 3 year & 48 million
Cody Zeller (77) - 3 year & 43 million
Tim Mozgov (74) - 2 year & 32 million
Kelly Olynyk (77) - 3 year & 34 million
Ian Mahinmi (74) - 2 year & 31 million
Mason Plumlee (76) - 2 year & 27 million
Miles Plumlee (70) - 2 year & 25 million
Omar Asik (68) - 2 year & 23 million
Meyers Leonard (71) - 2 year & 21 million
Christiano Felicio (71) - 3 year & 34 million

That's a good list. I will add two things to that:


1. Some players 2K names at one position are actually better at another -- Norman Powell is one of them, they have him as an SF but he gets a 1-2 point boost to his overall as a SG.


2. Certain players do have player options on those contracts that you can get them to wipe out IF they renegotiate with a contract extension either in-season or during the offseason. Whether you can convince them or not, whether you allow it or not, is up to you.


Personally, I do allow it in cases where players have been in an area/with a team for a few years and they qualify for a No-trade-Clause (Batum is a good example). If they do that, I allow them to renegotiate for a (usually) much lower cap hit in exchange for the guarantee they won't be moved.



Some guys won't accept it though, which is an improvement on last year where just about everyone with a player option would be open to renegotiating it for a lower value.

[georgiafan]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

I will plan on tonight going back and making note of the option years and making note of any overall changes when moving positions. I know typically moving C to PF is a bit of increase with most wings going up if they play SF. I've never done the extension thing on option years before.

That's a good list. I will add two things to that:


1. Some players 2K names at one position are actually better at another -- Norman Powell is one of them, they have him as an SF but he gets a 1-2 point boost to his overall as a SG.


2. Certain players do have player options on those contracts that you can get them to wipe out IF they renegotiate with a contract extension either in-season or during the offseason. Whether you can convince them or not, whether you allow it or not, is up to you.


Personally, I do allow it in cases where players have been in an area/with a team for a few years and they qualify for a No-trade-Clause (Batum is a good example). If they do that, I allow them to renegotiate for a (usually) much lower cap hit in exchange for the guarantee they won't be moved.



Some guys won't accept it though, which is an improvement on last year where just about everyone with a player option would be open to renegotiating it for a lower value.

[trekfan]

Re: NBA 2K19 - Trade Discussion Thread

I will plan on tonight going back and making note of the option years and making note of any overall changes when moving positions. I know typically moving C to PF is a bit of increase with most wings going up if they play SF. I've never done the extension thing on option years before.

Yeah, that's something I discovered last year as a way to keep teams from having their cap space wiped out by terrible option years in the midst of players demanding so much money based on potential/age alone.


This year it may not be necessary, but I still feel it's a valid maneuver and I treat it as a pseudo "stretch and waive" provision as the player in question has the NTC and can't be used in trades.